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[T-Bro]

ive got an answer for you this time! had a play last night...

ok go into the PEQ and adjust your settings until its all good. then press the TIT/ADJ button a few times to go back in the menu until it gets back to the preset name, then the preset number (shown in the small display at the bottom right of the panel) should be FLASHING. once that button is flashing, what its telling you is, "you have settings you have changed, but that are not saved". so to save them, all you do is press and HOLD the number (1 through 6) that you want to store the preset in - and it WILL beep back at you once its saved.

then its all done and stored. do the same thing for any other PEQ presets you want to save, except choose a different number.

so give that a go mate, i know it works, i did it last night in the garage - if not let me know and ill walk you through it

good luck

[Bodyjar]

Hmmmm... I had a play...

And still nothing! I know how to save the setting "as a whole" but not each individual frequency?!?! Because say I start from the bottom, 20hz, I want to say change that to -12dB (ported box) I just go to frequency 20hz, then go right to gain, change that to -12dB. Then I want to change say 80hz, and I wanna make that say... +2dB. So i go to frequency 80hz, then right to gain, +2dB. NOW, problem is, EVERY frequency seems to change to +2dB. even the previous 20hz goes to +2dB...

Basically, whenever I change a frequency gain, they ALL change!??!

[T-Bro]

i think i know what your problem may be...

the clarion menu uses the term "BAND", and all this is, is one frequency adjustment, say, 20hz -6dB with a Q of 20. you are allowed to adjust up to 3 bands. now, if you want to change *another* frequency, you have to choose a different band, by going back up the menu, and selecting band 2, then go through it and select the freq, gain and Q setting, then go back and do whatever you want to BAND 3. when all bands are all done, press the ADJ button a few times until you are back to the beginning of the preset (name will display, and number will flash in the small righthand display). then press and hold the preset button you want to allocate it to, and it will beep back and save.

i think because you were making all your changes to the one band, it always displayed the same thing and seemed confusing. if you change each of the 3 bands individually, then save them collectively under the preset, you will be fine. i tested this last night and it remembered all three different freq's when i went back to the PEQ

have another try, and lemme know how it goes, im frickin determinted to get your problem sorted now, hahaha

[lethal]

just slightly off on a tangent, Im looking at the DXZ825 how would you rate this deck, what level of SQ would you say it had, and what Alpine would you compare it to, specifically the CDA-7892E

thanks.

[Bodyjar]

T-Bro: yeah, thats exactly it! Dr_Jones showed me his deck, and its exactly the same EQ... you're right on the money!

[T-Bro]

problem solved bodyjar - woohoo!

lethal: i havent had an alpine HU in my system, so i cant provide a direct comparison with it (though i have had another top end clarion and a mid-end kenwood). but what i have noticed with the 925, is that is has a very fluid, smooth, what i like to call 'silky' character to it. it really holds things together on the highs - in fact, i would go so far as to say, that it is a slightly more fluid sound than the previous DRX-9675z (which it replaces) that i owned, as both myself and an audiophile friend of mine noticed it. but only slightly. however, like the previous clarion, it is otherwise the same, tight and firm bass response and a detailed and articulated performance all round

so im not sure how it would rate against a top end alpine, only a direct audion would tell. ive heard a top-end alpine in a mates (barmes) car through morels in kicks, and it sounded sweet. anyway, both would be serious source units, so it would get down to personal preference.

but you wont be disappointed with sound quality if you go with the 925 plus, it offers a good range of processing and a handy control/display panel layout that really grows on you in terms of ergonomics.

[lethal]

Thanks I really appreciate the response. both seem to be very well featured decks, I noticed that the DXZ925 has TA, and as T-BRO has said many systems could benifit from a little TA,

So I think that it tips the scales in favour of the Alpine CDA-7892E, the Clarion does look good though. It seems like theres alot of talk on here about TA, maybe we should concentrate a bit more on T and A.

thanks.

[Brucee]

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Originally posted by lethal:
just slightly off on a tangent, Im looking at the DXZ825 how would you rate this deck, what level of SQ would you say it had, and what Alpine would you compare it to, specifically the CDA-7892E

thanks.

i dont think its fair to compare DXZ825 to CDA-7892E,but CDA-7878 or CDA-7894RB would be more suitable to be compare with DXZ825

[normality78]

sorry to bring back this topic.

Master T-Bro,
May i know can the DXZ925 to run full active system? does it have the proper xover for the speaker?

[findog]

I have been running the dxz925 for a while now.

Playing with the TA made a way bigger difference than I had imagined (I had only read about it until I heard it on this deck).

I found the most important thing to start is hold the large button to the bottom right of the volume (adjust or AM) and step thru each setting. I started with, EQ on std (ie non parametric, just bass/treble), TA/individual gains disabled (ie just balance/fade), added the highpass filter to the front n rears etc...

This way I managed to get my amp levels and inbuild crossover frequencies etc just right as a solid foundation before trying the more advanced features.
Next I enabled the TA, and measured sound paths to my ear with a measuring tape, which seemed to do the job for now with a little tweaking. Next I want to tune the parametric eq well, as I know theres some big probs with my frequency response.

The interface is a tad odd at times, but it has a strange logic to it once you're used to it. I personally don't know how you can put up with the beep, its horrible, was one of the first things I disabled! I also got rid of the startup msgs and screensaver bling, was a tad too cheesy for a top end deck!

[normality78]

Tks findogs bro for the prompt reply.

Well my only concern here is this. Im only having Vifa raw mid driver and scanspeak raw tweets. i do not have any passive xover. So im wondering does this DXZ-925 do have xover setting for it something like what Alpine 9833/35 have? I do read frm some web it mention it had Built-in adjustable High-Pass crossovers for Front/Rear/Center Channels, Built-in adjustable Low-Pass crossover with Subwoofer Volume Control. But i cant see it frm the manual of the HU.

now i dun even dare to hook up the HU yet as im scared will fry my tweets away. ehehehhee

[findog]

Tis a wise idea to hold off hooking up your tweeters!

So far I've found it only has a single high pass filter that is applied to the front and rear output pairs. From memory this can be set to 50, 80 or 120Hz only. I don't think it allows for a different high pass for the fronts and rear, it is applied to all four channels equally (will double check this tho).

I'm not sure if it has a low pass for the sub output pair, or if it possibly automatically low passes the sub corresponding to the chosen high pass freq? (I use my amp to low pass the sub at the mo.)

Unless you find something I've missed you won't be able to crossover the tweeters n mids with the HU =(

[normality78]

cheee..... this sounds bad. which means i've got to use AudioControl 2xs.