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[shiny_car]

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Originally posted by Iano:
Ever considered upping the cable quality?

Cables DO make a difference, often quite a big one.

controversial!

[STIK79]

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Originally posted by shiny_car:
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Originally posted by Iano:
Ever considered upping the cable quality?

Cables DO make a difference, often quite a big one.

controversial!

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I'll just say that someone had a test and people couldn't tell the difference between a drain pipe and a bloody expensive set of RCAs... now explain how that works lol.

You get to a level where it comes down efectively to build quality.

[Iano]

Not just build quality, but the grade of metal used in the cable itself. Copper already has high purity ratings - 99.999% oxygen free. Silver goes higher again, titanium higher still. There is a reason that purist hifi marques charge big bucks for interconnects and speaker cable (you can pay well in excess of $200 per metre for the stuff).

It's because it works. Cables wont add any sonic signature to the sound, they'll just allow more of it to pass through.

Im not intending to stir the worm can here, but in all honesty, people who use standard cabling really dont know what they are missing out on.

[Macca]

Cable Quality doesnt do much....

As long as you get a decent wire, with a decent build quality.

in the end cable is just cable your paying for the brand.

I can go in to finer details, but just search it up on these forums i have made many posts on it.

Yes i use HOME MADE RCA cables. just do a search and you will find out.

[Bassaholic]

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Originally posted by Iano:

It's because it works.  Cables wont add any sonic signature to the sound, they'll just allow more of it to pass through.  

In that case, then why bother with expensive cable, when cheap cable has a low enough resistance?
Seriously though, speaker cables can change the response, when the total resistance of the cable is too high. But in most installs, the resistance of the cable is low enough that it does not make a difference. RCA cables don't really change the sound, but poorly designed ones do allow noise to enter the system - but again, there are plenty of unshielded twisted pair RCA cables available at reasonable prices. (If you want it to be cheaper, then you can always make your own...)

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EcHo2134 - I would recommend you get better sounding speakers now and install them into the stock locations. (note, how I said better sounding, rather than more expensive..), you can always do the install properly later. Yes kickpanels will stand out, but if the installer is creative enough, it is possible to vinyl them and make a cover for the speakers (that you put in after turning the system off) so the speakers are not as obvious. Remember that car audio theieves usually aren't very bright and can be fooled with a bit of effort...

[Iano]

Bahh think what you all like
This is obviously falling on most of your deaf ears and hey for a amateur carsound hack like myself I probably could be proved wrong.

Just regurgitating my home audio theory here, and I'm sensing that this particular part of it doesnt correlate all that well in a car environemnt...

[Marlin]

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Originally posted by Iano:
Not just build quality, but the grade of metal used in the cable itself.  Copper already has high purity ratings - 99.999% oxygen free.  Silver goes higher again, titanium higher still.  There is a reason that purist hifi marques charge big bucks for interconnects and speaker cable (you can pay well in excess of $200 per metre for the stuff).

It's because it works.  Cables wont add any sonic signature to the sound, they'll just allow more of it to pass through.  

Im not intending to stir the worm can here, but in all honesty, people who use standard cabling really dont know what they are missing out on.

Why on earth would you use Titanium RCAs?

And those claiming that a cable will change a signal would you please explain to me how a cable can possibly affect a signal other then eliminating noise hows does it magically improve the quality of the signal over what comes out the headunit? Why do people send thousands of dollars on cable thats easy either they are stupid yuppies who have no scientific knowledge at all or they need to have exceptional noise rejection properties an example of this would be say if your analysing river water for contaminants at the low ppm or ppb level from a helicopter with a probe at the end of a 30ft cable you must have absolutely no noise whatsoever in the system as your signal is so small this is an application where you geniuenly need to have massively shielded and exceedingly expensive cable.

[ December 27, 2003, 12:11: Message edited by: Marlin ]

[adrianf]

titanium???

titanium has VERY low conductivity. and it is damn strong as we all know, how are you going to make a flexible cable out of it???

[Iano]

OK

Take a simple 2 channel system. Integrated amp, CD player, pair of speakers.

Take some cheap dick smith cabling that might set you back $40. Listen to the system for an hour.

Swap the cable over to pricier better quality stuff that will set you back at least $150. Again listen to the system for an hour.

Can't hear a noticable difference? You're lying

[bob]

*sigh*
Here we go again!!!

[Bassaholic]

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Originally posted by adrianf:
titanium???

titanium has VERY low conductivity. and it is damn strong as we all know, how are you going to make a flexible cable out of it???

 

Exactly, titanium would make a terrible cable...

[Bassaholic]

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Originally posted by bob^:
*sigh*
Here we go again!!!

Tip for Iano - do a search on ABX testing, it is possible that you are the one who is lying to yourself.

[Suprathai]

Try Optic cables, they make a very noticeble difference. Except that prolly selling your soul will prolly not even cover half of the required length.