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#1 Fhrx

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Posted 01 November 2004 - 09:02 AM

Well as many of you know I'm still on my never ending quest to find a single subwoofer I like the sound of and I may have come the closest yet yesterday.

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We took delivery of the new Image Dynamics IDMAX12 (12") during the week and installed it over the weekend ready to begin it's run in session. I have heard many comments about the IDMAX12 not being overly good for sound quality tasks but I have long suspected this is due to the sheer size of the motor structure and the fact it needs some serious power to control it. So far I have been right.

For some interesting reading, the stats of the sub are:

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The installation and environment specs are:

* 1.3 cubic foot sealed enlcosure.
* 36mm MDF walls with internal bracing.
* Zapco Reference 1100.1 amplifier.
* Crossed at 65hz with a 24db slope.
* No boost.

Once run in it was time. We finally gave it a real workout this morning for a little while and I must say the bottom end frequencies are absoultely fantastic! Control at subsonic and lower subbass frequencies is second to none and while obviously the amplifier primarily governs this, no other main stream (ie not specially manufactured for us) subs to date has sounded so clear and controlled. Everything from basson, cello, pipe organ and percussion drums, not to mention techno, dance, pop and metal (didn't have any RnB on hand sorry) sounds suprisingly tight and accuarately defined.

To answer what the SPL heads are already starting to answer, don't stress; when you crank it up, your head turns to jelly and you cannot see - all this from a single 12".

Now next week I should have the brand new RE Audio XXX 12" instaled which I'm lead to believe is even better than the IDMAX but for now, this is one oft best 12"s I've heard in a ling time.

Anyone want a listen, give me a ring. :D:D:D

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#2 fuddbutter

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Posted 01 November 2004 - 09:44 AM

there a damn nice speaker. you should try having 2 in a SPL box burping away while driving damn fun stuff :D
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#3 Fhrx

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Posted 01 November 2004 - 10:38 AM

Yeah, I have a ported enclosure lined up in a few weeks for more testing. You reckon I'll blow my head clean off? :P

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Posted 01 November 2004 - 11:42 AM

not clean off bit of tearing will be involved haha

i won my first SPL trophy with one of these :D
QUOTE (RMA @ Feb 6 2010, 01:22 AM) My only regrets are:
Selling Fudd an amp (for a fraction of the real price) that had been returned by Autobarn Geelong which had been incorrectly used by AB Geelong and turned out to be faulty when Fudd started using it.
Whilst he was given a new amp after it could not be fixed, he never acknowledged any of the assistance given and bitches to this day about it.

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#5 Fhrx

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Posted 02 November 2004 - 06:44 AM

Just added some images.

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Posted 02 November 2004 - 08:15 AM

Morning Marty
Do you ever sleep :hehe:
What amp are you using to push this baby :?:

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Posted 02 November 2004 - 08:21 AM

they're most definately an awesome sub, personally i think the 10" is the pick of the bunch for SQ, same with the XXX's....
the XXX12 is dearer, so it's not really a fair comparison though
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#8 Fhrx

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Posted 02 November 2004 - 09:59 AM

E320Titanium said:

What amp are you using to push this baby :?:

Hey John, it is currently running of a Zapco Reference 1100.1. See here for more details on the test car. :D

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 09:28 AM

hey marty

how does it compare to a DD3512, which is also in a similar price bracket?

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 10:51 AM

welcome to the family SON !

It need more time to break-in...it should sound sweet after the break in period.
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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:27 AM

Hey FHRX great read maybe you should post your thoughts on other stuff as it would be a great comparision tool.

#12 Dave@glprosound

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Posted 07 November 2004 - 09:34 PM

Hey FHRX

Mabe you can add some info into the post, as marlin suggested. Some info on what subwoofers you have listned to, etc. What was lacking from each, info like that.

#13 posty

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Posted 07 November 2004 - 10:23 PM

Have you listened to an adireaudio tumult ? I wouldnt mind knowing how they compare :)

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Posted 07 November 2004 - 10:29 PM

I dont mean to be a pain but i would love to see a Soundstream Van Gogh 12" SQ sub tested. See how it compares.
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Posted 07 November 2004 - 10:41 PM

I still think a Brahma or XXX sound a bit better than the IDMax'x, they ID's dont have the flat BL response of the XBL2 motored subs... but then i guess the Brahma/XXX's are a whole lot more $$$, and the advantage to not using the XBL2 motor is you get better sensitivity, hence why IDMAX's are always regarded as an exceptional 'Loud SQ' sub :)





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