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[Darkness_GR]

Hey there everyone

I have almost finished putting togeather my system, and am just about to commence the install.

My install consists of:

Head Unit: Clarion HX-D2
Front Splits: Focal 165W3
Rear Fill: Focal 165CV
Sub: Focal 33WX
Sub Amp: Cadence Amadeus M3000
Front stage Amp: Cadence Amadeus M4000
Cabling: Stinger

Anyway i was just afer some good install techniques to under take when i am putting all the gear in as i know that the install is more important than the actual equipment itself. after a fully SQ system

i intend on sound deadening the floor, boot, doors and back parcel shelf

i also am wondering if it is illegal to modify your accelerator pedal to fit kicks in? and there is little to no room for kicks where the pedal is at the moment.

[Darkness_GR]

is it also worth having an extra battery in the boot.

[DeeCee]

Hint - dual battery setup with sealed battery in back isolated from main electics using a charging system = no engine noise

i don't think there would be anything hard or illegal about moving the acclerator pedal to the left about 1 - 2 centimetres.. you'll have to adjust your driving slightly, but who would know.. then again, i don't know how hard it is to keep your cars in check in Aus..

[icacha]

Darkness_GR said:

is it also worth having an extra battery in the boot.

Can you come up with a reason as to why you need 2 batteries? I'd say no need if you got a GOOD battery in the front to start with...

[icacha]

DeeCee said:

Hint - dual battery setup with sealed battery in back isolated from main electics using a charging system = no engine noise

The right installation first time around = NO ENGINE NOISE

DeeCee said:

i don't think there would be anything hard or illegal about moving the acclerator pedal to the left about 1 - 2 centimetres.. you'll have to adjust your driving slightly, but who would know.. then again, i don't know how hard it is to keep your cars in check in Aus..

YES it will be illegal, any mods to safety items and most others are illegal... Check with your local inspection station or road and traffic authority as to rules...

[DeeCee]

ICACHA said:

The right installation first time around = NO ENGINE NOISE

Yeah, but look at the gear he is installing.

You might as well go for a better design than using whats there. Sure there is less complication when using a one battery system, but then again, you have the battery right in the boot where there is less wire length from power source to amplifiers.

Hey, i only have a one battery system, but when its time, i will go to a 2 battery system to reduce possible engine noise..

[Darkness_GR]

I was intending on upgrading my battery in the engine bay to a yellow top of some discription. to keep a good power supply, or i could put it in the boot and get a battery isolator so if i use my system when the car is off my car battery won't go flat so i can drive my car away and not have to worry about a flat battery. i will be using my car stereo when it is off a fair bit, when i put in the dvd stacker and some screens.

[Cyberpunky]

dual batts should be avoided, at all costs, if possible, as it just places twice the load on your alt and has many other issues. Unless you can afford to spend lots of money on expensive batteries regulary steer clear. multiple batts are for SPL and show cars only IMO. I have been down this path and have ar least 6 dead mega $$ batts. I wont ever run dual batts again. It was the biggest waste of money.

Just get a good one upfront. Jobs done. I seriously wonder why anyone would go dual batts to avoid a problem they dont have. If you have noise then fix the cause, dont spend hundreds of $$s on a band aid and please dont suggest to other ppl to go dual batts when you arent aware of the serious pitfalls dual batts have.
peace
Cyberpunky

[DeeCee]

Cheers for that Cyberpunky, i'll keep your advice in mind when the dual battery issue comes up later in the year.. there you go Darkness_GR - advice with someone that has been in your position before..
nice big blanket statement that covers every issue in a car audio install..

[dasherhalo]

PM InCar Phil: he once mentioned being able to modify the accelerator pedal for me when I was considering a kick panel install.

9.0/10 for the system, by the way. You lose a point for it not being in MY car.

[Darkness_GR]

Lol its not even in my car yet let alone yours .

and i havn't had any trouble with alternator whine or engine noise before in other systems so i don't expect to have it as a problem in this system. so i will just upgrade the battery up front. and i have all the cableing for it allready anyway.

just another question?

i know about running the 12v power wire up the oppisite side of the car than the interconnects/Rca leads just wondering what side the remote wire should go up? the interconnect side or the 12v power side?

when i am helping my mates on their installs i usually just run it up the centre but on my car that is a bit harder and has to go to the sides in some sections.

cheers for any help in advance guys

[Captn_Awesome]

Is this going in the 2500? man thats a solidly built car. box design for the sub to get the most output would be one area i would pay lots of attention to - cause there nothing worse then spending good money on components like you have only to have your mates hope in your car and say "it doesnt go that loud" be loud be clear. Id possibly look into a battery in the boot option - tidy up the engine bay other wise no reason why you need a dual batt setup

[Cyberpunky]

Its fine to run remote with RCAs, and in fact many rcas have a wire attached that is great for this. Personally I think keeping main power away from RCAs is a myth or a hang over from poor equipment back in the day. I have seen hundreds of installs done with power next to RCAs that had no noise issues but all used decent quality equipment including RCAs.
peace
Cyberpunky

[Stooge007]

Cyberpunky said:

Its fine to run remote with RCAs, and in fact many rcas  have a wire attached that is great for this. Personally I think keeping main power away from RCAs is a myth or a hang over from poor equipment back in the day. I have seen hundreds of installs done with power next to RCAs that had no noise issues but all used decent quality equipment including RCAs.
peace
Cyberpunky

were they UTP or shielded RCA's CP?

- Stooge007 out

[Cyberpunky]

Mostly shielded even thou Im not a fan of them, as I know why shielding cant work, but I think radiated noise entering system was more of an issue back in the day, unless you use V low end products, which I avoid like the plaque anyway lol

We had a fitter who taped all the leads into one bundle pretty much every install he did, and we never had noise in any of them. We didnt sell low end stuff, so how he went about installing was never called into question, as they all worked great and had zero noise. Changed my opinion as I had always done it the other way till that point. These days I dont bother doing seperate runs
peace
Cyberpunky