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[flyinwrx]

These are the Hertz Mille MLK-165, right?

Just making sure!

[Iceman_jkh]

I heard the HSK 165 (model below the MLK165) the other day and I was very impressed with the midbass driver! The tweeter wasnt that nice - decent, but nothing special - but the 6" midbass driver (from this ~$400 speaker kit) was excellent. Heaps of kick, very clean and was really tight/punchy, even at loud volume.
Heres to hoping that the MLK 6" midbasses are superior to the HSKs in every category - which isnt always the case when going to a higher model.

[RMA]

The MLK165 are a big leap forward in the Hertz range ove HSK165.
Certainly not something you would compare against the HSK165 speakers.

The MLK do have an excellent punch and I have found the tweeter to stay nice and smooth even at high volumes.

[br85]

The JL audio ZR series is quite punchy, but I found that those hard dome tweets are not great for the "rock" side of things, it always makes the blaring vocals, snare drums, and distorted guitars unpleasant to listen to when turned up to any decent volume. At least, that's how I felt when I considered dropping $950 on them (If they were 600 I would've picked them up in a heartbeat). To quote you, these ALSO sound "high pitched, edgy, and definitely lacks the fuller sound". Probably a bit better than the v2's for the fullness aspect, yeah, harsh. Maybe check out the new JL C5 series.

If you can get them cheap enough (i.e. you are not afraid to import) the Polk SR6500's, they are a beautiful speaker for any music, but I should let you know that from most reports they do not get any real "punchiness" to them until you've broken them in with a solid 40 hours of playing, and they need at LEAST 100 watts rms from a good amp to sound the way they're supposed to. The other important advantage here is that due to the way the tweeters/woofers are designed, these speakers will sound almost as good as the perfect setup (i.e. on axis) in ANY configuration, INCLUDING removing the phase pole and mounting them as coaxials!!! Since you want to put stuff in the stock positions, these are the way to go, but they retail for $1349 over here. If you are not afraid to import (no, not from ebay) PM me and I'll tell you how to get these for about HALF the RRP within 2-3 days of ordering.

[Iceman_jkh]

Got a pair of MLK165 midbasses in my car now.. VERY IMPRESSED!
Lots of detail, excellent midbass, very clean too.. and loud!

I havent heard the tweeter, but if the magazine review and sound of the mids themselves is anything to go by, it will be a very enjoyable and musical speaker set!

If you're in melb you can have a listen to mine.
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
Ice

[Wh33lzz]

RMA, on Jan 17 2008, 11:57 AM, said:

I would suggest that if you want to use the speakers for head banging music Morel would not be what you want unless you are sure you can restrain yourself from turning every knob up to max.
Elate would be my choice if you were to use Morel however if you over drive these then its all over red rover, aluminum voice coil formers only need to pole / bottom out once to die, so I would suggest Morel or even Dyn would not be the best choice.

Really? thats a worry, as my supremos actually love the power they are fed and I have them (at times) EXTREMELY loud, with all types of music.
They can go so loud that they hurt and not seem to break a sweat, am I playing with fire here Phil??? Would hate to hurt them.. I love them like family

[~thematt~]

br85, on Feb 25 2008, 08:38 AM, said:

Since you want to put stuff in the stock positions, these are the way to go, but they retail for $1349 over here. If you are not afraid to import (no, not from ebay) PM me and I'll tell you how to get these for about HALF the RRP within 2-3 days of ordering.

You can get them for even less, by buying the drivers individually from the OEM instead of through Polk.... (about 1/3rd of the price)

[br85]

~thematt~, on Feb 25 2008, 06:09 PM, said:

You can get them for even less, by buying the drivers individually from the OEM instead of through Polk.... (about 1/3rd of the price)

But those crossovers are magic! A lot of the signature sound of the SR's is due to those crossovers. Unless you've got a degree in active crossovers from the university of smartass, the polk Xovers are the S**t.

[~thematt~]

'Fraid not. No such thing as magic in audio reproduction. It can all be replicated via an Active Crossover. In fact, Active crossovers will match and surpass anything a factory passive can hope to deliver.

They are decent speakers, but IMO not worth the price. Unfortunately though, in Car Audio hardly anything is.

[br85]

~thematt~, on Feb 26 2008, 08:52 AM, said:

'Fraid not. No such thing as magic in audio reproduction. It can all be replicated via an Active Crossover.

Yeah, I'm aware of this but active crossovers do take some saintlike patience to get sounding good. And if you have inquisitive knob heads who want to "look at your amp" all the time, you can guarantee almost all of them will fiddle with (and hence ruin) your settings.

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In fact, Active crossovers will match and surpass anything a factory passive can hope to deliver.

Only if you know what you are doing. I know about 12 other people who are "car audio nuts" and I doubt more than 1 or 2 of them have the ability to tune an active crossover. Brisbane sucks like that, even most of the car audio shops around here don't have anybody working for them that REALLY knows anything more than your average sales rep.

Anyway, these passive crossovers look really cool and exhibit a tweeter protection circuit to prevent the aforementioned knob heads from blowing up your tweets when they borrow your car or decide they "really like this song" and turn it up to ear bleeding levels.

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They are decent speakers, but IMO not worth the price. Unfortunately though, in Car Audio hardly anything is.

Hear you there. Well I got mine for around 700 with warranty so I can't complain.

Edited by br85, 26 February 2008 - 10:31 AM.

[Wh33lzz]

br85, on Feb 26 2008, 11:31 AM, said:

Anyway, these passive crossovers look really cool and exhibit a tweeter protection circuit to prevent the aforementioned knob heads from blowing up your tweets when they borrow your car or decide they "really like this song" and turn it up to ear bleeding levels.

If the gains are correctly set to your HU 's output voltages, you should never be able to damage any component, even with a flat out setting on the volume knob.

If you can push your speakers into clipping with your current gains setting, you may need to adjust it to guarantee those "knobs" dont damage your system.