As a result of discussion amongst the MEASQ judges, we've decided to change the class line up for 2008 and onwards, effective immediately.
New Class Structure:
Intermediate
Expert
Show
What this means is you can compete in either Intermediate or Expert, and elect whether you want to be judged additionally for Show.
Basically we've combined all the show side of judging, into one class based soley on Show. You must compete in either Intermediate or Expert to be elegible to compete in the show class if you want your installation / display judged.
We will be putting this into effect as of the coming Round 3 event.
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MEASQ 2008 Change of Class Structure
Started by Marc ♫, Jul 27 2008 08:28 PM
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 08:28 PM
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 09:36 PM
havent we been doing this anyway?
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 10:43 PM
Some states have, and it's been unofficial.
We've decided to adopt it Australia wide, and is a positive step forward we feel.
We've decided to adopt it Australia wide, and is a positive step forward we feel.
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 08:31 AM
sorry to ask a stupid question, but does this mean that amateur show competitors will be entering in intermediate SQ, then competing for the "Show" trophy against pro competitors?
not saying its a bad idea, just clarifying...
not saying its a bad idea, just clarifying...
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 08:50 AM
Show is a combination of any competitor who wishes to compete for show/display, so in other words, yes.
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 11:15 PM
good decision,
might entice some competitors to trim their blu-tac.
just kidding,
might entice some competitors to trim their blu-tac.
just kidding,
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 11:46 PM
o i c
we were just doing show seperately still but i was basically judging the cars against each other anyways
we were just doing show seperately still but i was basically judging the cars against each other anyways
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 11:53 PM
crankin, on Jul 28 2008, 11:15 PM, said:
good decision,
might entice some competitors to trim their blu-tac.
just kidding,
might entice some competitors to trim their blu-tac.
just kidding,
youch..!
that hurt hakki!
at least my power wire didn't pull out of the battery terminal
anyway, about that blu-tac trimming....
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The only excuse for passive crossovers is their low cost. Their behavior changes with the signal level dependent dynamics of the drivers. They block the power amplifier from taking maximum control over the voice coil motion. They are a waste of time, if accuracy of reproduction is the goal.
~Spyne~, on 18 December 2009 - 09:05 AM, said:
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Posted 29 July 2008 - 01:22 PM
i think its a great idea... pool all the show cars together instead of 1 or 2 in each "level" of show...
and also evens out the playing field, as well as making it easier for show judges..
ALTHO.. how will an "intermediate" show competitor be judged against "expert" with different levels of finish?
because i know previously, they were supposedly judged on 2 different standards...
and also evens out the playing field, as well as making it easier for show judges..
ALTHO.. how will an "intermediate" show competitor be judged against "expert" with different levels of finish?
because i know previously, they were supposedly judged on 2 different standards...
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Posted 29 July 2008 - 02:11 PM
I'm all for making the judging easier, however I don't think this new rule is likely to "even out the playing field", any more than creating a single "SQ" class of competing amateurs and professionals would.
i can see the reasons for the rule, however I'm still not sure how this will encourage people with an amateur show install, built and finished at home on a limited budget, to enter and "grow" this aspect of the sport.
I do however see the need to push quality installs as much as possible, as the more competitors in any discipline (spl/SQ/show etc) with nicer rides, the more people we are likely to attract as both competitors and spectators.
i can see the reasons for the rule, however I'm still not sure how this will encourage people with an amateur show install, built and finished at home on a limited budget, to enter and "grow" this aspect of the sport.
I do however see the need to push quality installs as much as possible, as the more competitors in any discipline (spl/SQ/show etc) with nicer rides, the more people we are likely to attract as both competitors and spectators.
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The only excuse for passive crossovers is their low cost. Their behavior changes with the signal level dependent dynamics of the drivers. They block the power amplifier from taking maximum control over the voice coil motion. They are a waste of time, if accuracy of reproduction is the goal.
~Spyne~, on 18 December 2009 - 09:05 AM, said:
my vibe tastes like hedgehog slice
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Posted 29 July 2008 - 08:39 PM
In a perfect world things would be different.
However, this is what we need to do at this point in time.
However, this is what we need to do at this point in time.
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 12:14 AM
This new regulation would be interesting for me. As a competitor in amateur show through the past I would be interested with how I stack up with the "expert" class.
Luckily this coincides with my recent cleaning up of the install and making a few changes... Looks like 1st place would be harder than ever now
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Is there any news on how would this affect current points structures?
Luckily this coincides with my recent cleaning up of the install and making a few changes... Looks like 1st place would be harder than ever now
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Is there any news on how would this affect current points structures?
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 01:19 AM
Sounds good to me, nice and simple - I like!
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 03:35 PM
NoOg_sTaR, on Jul 29 2008, 10:14 PM, said:
This new regulation would be interesting for me. As a competitor in amateur show through the past I would be interested with how I stack up with the "expert" class.
Luckily this coincides with my recent cleaning up of the install and making a few changes... Looks like 1st place would be harder than ever now.
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Is there any news on how would this affect current points structures?
Luckily this coincides with my recent cleaning up of the install and making a few changes... Looks like 1st place would be harder than ever now
. NoOg_sTaR
Is there any news on how would this affect current points structures?
The WA judges are yet to collaborate an opinion on the new rules yet. We are meeting this weekend. As for series points NoOg, we will work out a system to ensure past efforts have not been lost.
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Posted 01 August 2008 - 10:02 PM
does that mean that all the intermediate entrants are all competing for the sound title also??? like what we do with the expert class???
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