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#1 BMWTurbo

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Posted 24 September 2008 - 04:45 PM

Hi Guys,

Well I have recently updated from my old Eclipse CD8455 HU to the new Eclipse CD7200 MKII deadhead unit.

First impressions of the unit have been great and I can't wait to spend some more time with it tuning to get the most from it. The unit itself is a Copper chassis'd dead head, meaning no internal amplifier is included. It will support 3-wayfull active set-up's and offers decent EQ, TA, x-over, level and phasing controls.

Asethetics :- I much prefer the CD7200 to my CD8455, I did reuse the black surround from the previous unit with the CD7200 though as the dark grey wouldn't have matched to my interior. The CD7200 offers the option of changing the button colours also which I found great, being able to set the whole display to amber rather then leaving the buttons blue (CD8455).
One point I make that I feel detracts from the units' aesthetic is the screen printing of SRS, USB, HD etc on the front face to me these look out of place, but I also understand why Eclipse has done this.

Connection :- The units was a simple drop in replacement for the CD8455 with the main harness plugs in directly and then just needing the 4-pairs of RCA's connected, Hi-Mid-Low-Aux.

Menus/Interface :- I have found it is easy to navigate through it's menus and appreciate the 'Screen' button allowing the screen to be flicked through displays backgrounds and even off with a single button. The menu layout seems straight forward and I was able to quickly get my head around it and find all the functions that I use with the previous unit.

I did find the single large rotary button with the joystick in the middle a little cumbersome to start with, managing to click the centre rather then the arrows on occassion but I think that I will get used to this and hope that it won't take too long to get the 'knack' to using it effectively.

BT Handsfree :- I by accident managed to use the BT handsfree with my HTC Touch when making a call after connecting it earlier in the drive. I was able to hear the person on the other end well enough and was told that I came through loud and clear also. I think I'll be using this function in the future.

BT Audio/USB/Ipod :- I'm yet to use the BT Audio or USB feature. I will try the USB connection when I get an external USB drive and set the folders as required. I don't suspect that I will be using this function to a large degree, but time will tell. I do not have an I-pod nor the I-pod interface so cannot comment on this function.

Features/Functions :- I'm more then impressed with the extra crossover frequency bands that are available when compared to the CD8455 and have taken advantage of this be crossing my midbass' lower (40hz) then the previous 63hz(limit). I am also very impressed with the single bad sub EQ, which has helped me flatten out the bass response to counteract the cabin gain of the vehicle. The unit offers a 5-band Paramatric EQ (L/R combined) for both Hi and Mid outputs and a single Parametric EQ for the Low output when in 3-way mode. You have phase and stereo/mono switching available on the Low output also. 5 presets for EQ are available which will store corresponding X-over settings.

Each of the 6-output channels has it's own, level and TA settings. I found that it was accurate with the delay added in ms's on the HU matching directly with shown delay when using Impulse Response. This made setting the TA very easy as I could just gate the delay I needed and punch it in to teh unit and get it right first go each driver.

The crossover I found very usefull also, right down to 20hz being available on the Low LP and Mid HP points. The Mid LP/Hi HP could be set down to 200hz and all the way up to 16k. Slopes available were, 6, 12, 18 and 24dB/octave

I will be trying to get the Frequency measurement to work on the unit over the up coming weeks, as my intial trial last night with the 8455's RCA microphone did not yeild any success. I suspect I'm approaching the measurement the wrong way so will consult the manual and try again.

Sound Quality :- The units is on-par if not a step above the CD8455. After more time critically listening I'll get an idea of how much better it actually is. I'm also seeing a reduced noise floor over the CD8455 and am fairly certain that a lot of the 'noise' I'm hearing is in the original recording and not being introduced by the unit. Again spending more time critically listening should re-enforce this initial impression.

Conclusion :- In all I am more then happy with the update and look foward to using the unit. I found it a step forward in the right direction, being a copper chassis'd dead head unit. If I could make one suggestion only, it would be to expand the unit to support a full 4-way active system, 3-way front with sub.

I would recommend the unit to other people based on the above, and for my money, it was the obvious choice for my update in this price point.

*EDIT* I have since used the USB interface and found it very easy to use, but the title's are very short with thier display, but I believe there is a spcail way around this, which I will trial is I ever decide to play with the USB again.

Edited by BMWTurbo, 29 September 2008 - 03:46 PM.

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#2 zion187reigneth

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Posted 06 October 2008 - 09:29 PM

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If I could make one suggestion only, it would be to expand the unit to support a full 4-way active system, 3-way front with sub.

The hu is still viable in 3way plus sub in regards to having your big midbass being cut at 200hz LPass.I mean if your midrange can do a HP around there without any dips in the hz freq range.
At the moment im running my cd8455 in 4way with the sub ch being split for midbass(bandpassed 50-200hz) also incorperating the midbass amps Hpass filter to get the bandpass, and ofcourse running the sub on that rca because its a clean signal from 200hz to 20hz and using the the sub amps LP filter.
Im really keen on the cd7200 as in this config i would get 1 PEQ band to EQ my band passed midbass.
I believe with good quality amps u get good quality filters in them and they do a killer blend for sub LP to midbass HP cutoffs.
This hu is the bomb.

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 07:49 AM

I run TA on my sub channel, but I might also be a bit of an individual case. I have found I need to delay my sub as the RH mid is the furthurest driver fro the listener.

I'm greedy and want a 4-way active TA/level/EQ controlled output. running if the way you talk about you are limited to speaker locations. IE if you run the high pass and split externally for the mids/tweeters they need to be close to eachother, or you need independant gain controls on each tweeter to get it correct. If you split the midbass/sub again you lose out on TA for the respective channels.

I am currently looknig at running my mids and tweeters from the 'hi' output using an external crossover and two amps, but again I lose L-R independence between the midranges and tweeters. I also lose independant TA and although not so much of an issue with high high passed tweeters not having TA, it's still a compromise.
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Midbass - Morel Hybrid 8's = Eclipse PA5422 Bridged
Midrange - Tangband W3-832SE's = Eclipse PA5422 Rear
Tweeter - Arvus 1.25 Dome = Eclipse PA5422 Front
Sub Bass
JBL w15GT (IB) = Eclipse DA7122

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 08:53 PM

ahhhh yeah ,i forgot about TA for the sub.

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1977 LX torana=Remove HU and speakers ~run quarter mile 12.68
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Posted 21 October 2008 - 09:00 PM

I modified the HU faceplate over the weekend and am more then happy with the outcome...

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Midbass - Morel Hybrid 8's = Eclipse PA5422 Bridged
Midrange - Tangband W3-832SE's = Eclipse PA5422 Rear
Tweeter - Arvus 1.25 Dome = Eclipse PA5422 Front
Sub Bass
JBL w15GT (IB) = Eclipse DA7122

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 01:24 PM

What is the retail for this unit? and what are some of the prices people have managed to get it at?
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 10:14 AM

the CD7200 mkII retails at $699, and the ipod adapter is about $149 or so also. we tend to do package deals with the ipod for a little less though. hope that answers your question.

O/T: great write up BMWturbo it explains the features quite well, these are indeed a great unit for the price.

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Posted 25 November 2008 - 12:09 PM

as above - i managed to get mine for a steal at $550 incl ipod adapter, from a local melbourne store during a massive sale they had

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 11:56 AM

Very happy with my 7200

its miles infront of my old deck :)

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 10:27 PM

Did you go back to the sony or did you forget to update your sig (PilotBoy)

Im looking to get one of these just wondering if this will be much better than my Pioneer 9650.

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 07:45 PM

Does the 7200 support an external hard drive via USB ??

I use a 250 gig external hard drive, which is not supported on a lot of USB head units.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 05:12 PM

I'm sure the Eclipse are some of the best sounding head units, and like mechanical moving face but still think they need to make them look a bit more modern.. not exactly nice looking IMO.
Next time i'm temped to go for a Nakamichi for quality over looks!

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 08:09 PM

I cant say if it will or not, but i am extremely happy with it, 3way active and sub (if you crossover the amp and y the low frequency off) and a nice looking head unit in total :)

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104 points SQ = 2nd Place Amature SQ WCSO Albany Sep 2007

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 09:42 AM

i would love to own one! :P

has anyone tried connecting a 2.5" usb external hard drive with it?

does it read everything off it?

i would like to know as i would like to connect mine up to it if i was to own one and listen to my wide collection of albums :P


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Posted 30 January 2009 - 10:55 PM

I don't have a USB ext drive to test, but for some reason it doesn't recognise my new 16gb USB stick, so I suspect that it has a capacity limitation. It works fine with my 2gb USB stick, albiet with the cut off song titles
E30 Project Car:- www.cardomain.com/ride/720651
E32 Daily Driver:- www.cardomain.com/ride/2160608
Source PIONEER DEX P99RS
Front Stage
Midbass - Morel Hybrid 8's = Eclipse PA5422 Bridged
Midrange - Tangband W3-832SE's = Eclipse PA5422 Rear
Tweeter - Arvus 1.25 Dome = Eclipse PA5422 Front
Sub Bass
JBL w15GT (IB) = Eclipse DA7122





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