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[Marc ♫]

From the article: http://www.mobileele...oneer_appradio/

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The race is on with manufacturer's all trying to find that seamless integration between our smart phones / devices and the vehicle's entertainment system. Perhaps Pioneer have found the answer or at least move us one step closer with the AppRadio™. According to Pioneer, AppRadio is the first in-vehicle product designed to utilise the the processing power, storage capacity, network connectivity and apps of the iPhone and iPod touch as the primary source for its information and entertainment capabilities ...

[Sicarius123]

This could easily sway me into buying an iPhone 5, but not with an Australian price $400 more than American while our dollar is worth more.

[Marc ♫]

You've clearly made your point. This is the price we pay for living in Australia. It's the same across all brands, all products and all industries. No need to get into a pricing discussion.

I'm personally more excited about the world of possibilities this opens up. Hats off to Pioneer, pushing the boundaries and still investing in R&D

[Sicarius123]

It's only the cost of living in Australia because people allow it to be, if more people bought grey imports suppliers and retailers would have to learn to adapt pretty quickly instead of sitting on massively inflated profit margins.

If I can purchase something as an individual from overseas for what will most definitely be half the RRP without the benefits of bulk buying behind me there is a serious flaw in the supply chain.

Not to mention the "Australia" tax on most products is 20-40% markup which is far more reasonable than the 90% markup going on here.

Hats off to Pioneer for a fantastic product, but Pioneer Australia's markup is really dusgusting. When $900AUD is $933.40USD what is that massive markup over $500USD buying us?

Edited by Sicarius123, 28 May 2011 - 04:56 PM.

[Marc ♫]

Sorry, with all respect, there are so many factors you have not even considered in your argument, and I can tell it's just not worth my time. It's been covered on MEA so many times before.

[Sicarius123]

I really don't think my argument that Australian suppliers expect to make more money from being inefficient is invalid at all. The amount of times I've seen parts for cars which are made in Australia, that are not only cheaper from the US but delivered quicker as the higher cost Australians don't keep items in stock is ridiculous.

Just look at the price and delivery times from Aus and USA of an Australian made PWR Radiator as a quick example.

Edited by Sicarius123, 28 May 2011 - 05:19 PM.

[Stone]

Sicarius123, on 28 May 2011 - 04:52 PM, said:

Hats off to Pioneer for a fantastic product, but Pioneer Australia's markup is really dusgusting. When $900AUD is $933.40USD what is that massive markup over $500USD buying us?

What you don't understand is that US distributors buy more stock, so pay less per unit. That is one reason the US prices are lower than the Australian prices. Another is that the US market has so much more competition so they sell closer to cost price, which is possible because of the size of the market. Australian distributors cannot do this so you cannot realistically compare US prices to Australian prices.

I'm not posting this to argue with you. I'm posting it because you clearly don't know the facts.

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This post is referring to car audio, not radiators or other car parts.

Edited by Stone, 29 May 2011 - 07:55 PM.

[Sicarius123]

You pay twice as much money.

I'll buy from competitive retailers selling for half the price.

I have no problem from buying local when the price is semi-competitive, but I wont be blindly ripped off. There is no difference between car audio or anything else sold in Australia and elsewhere. Why should car audio get to be different?


As for American retailers being more competetive, that is why you will see this for US$400, not why the Australian RRP is double what it should be.

Oh and warranty? For half price I'll buy another one if I have issues.

Clearly members of this forum have issues with comprehending a global economy.

Edited by Sicarius123, 29 May 2011 - 09:04 PM.

[Marc ♫]

Or perhaps we spare a thought for our industry.

[Sicarius123]

The only possible reason you could be disagreeing with me is if you commonly make as much profit on these units as the pricing difference here implies.

If you are scraping by on minimum profit you are being ripped off by manufacturers and distribution while apparently loving it.

Other industries have adapted to at least minimal price differences, why can't this one?

[Stone]

Sicarius123, on 29 May 2011 - 08:55 PM, said:

Clearly members of this forum have issues with comprehending a global economy.

Clearly you didn't read my post at all. I'll simplify it for you... SOME BUSINESSES CAN NOT MATCH OR GET CLOSE TO THE US PRICES. IT'S NOT A CHOICE.

Edited by Stone, 30 May 2011 - 09:14 AM.

[Sicarius123]

Clearly you are far too defensive. I'll make it simple for you.

I'm not saying you need to match US cost price, the amount UNDER the RRP they will sell for in a more competetive market is what you seem to be fixated on. However there is NO reason the US RRP should be nearly half the aus RRP, I'm not saying there is no reason for it to cost more here, and i wouldnt of made a fuss if it was 600-700, but nearly double is laughable and clearly someone is being taken for a ride.

If it continues expect to see more and more customers purchasing overseas, I'm sure instead of adapting you'll make friends with Gerry Harvey.

[Marc ♫]

Let's just remember the unit isn't here or released yet. RRP is only speculation at the moment - you never know what might happen.

[Gozza]

I know what the problem here is guys.. RRP..

I hate this whole 'retail price' bullcrap. Who here HAS EVER paid for a product at retail prices???

The only company I know of that sets a price and sticks to it, is Apple. There is virtually no price differentiation with an Apple product.

Just because the RRP of the Pioneer headunit is $900 for example, the shops local to here may be selling them for $700! Whereas the RRP in the US might be closer to the actual street price of the unit.

Please don't quote retail prices as a definitive cost of the product. RRP is similar to the difference between the 'watts' of and amplifier and it's root mean square output of an amplifier - there is little to no correlation!

[Marc ♫]

"Go Price" or "Street Price" is probably more relevant as you say Gozza.