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Budget Orientated Loud front stage.


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#1 D34M0N.inc

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 11:22 PM

Hey guys i now pretty much have everything for my build audio wise except speakers.

Due to lack of funds i thought i'd put up a thread for people like me who want a budget orientated loud front stage.
I have 6 12" subs on 3kw+ so im wanting to get the loudest and clearest for my money (Not expecting full on SQ or to fully keep up with the bass at full tilt don't get me wrong)

Anything from cheap decent quality home drivers that can get loud (like tangband etc), horn tweeters etc.


I have a 4x 110w rms 4ch PPI amp for power and was going to get 4 sets of cheap coax but thought there is a chance that there is something better for the budget.


With a budget of around 2-300 max what would you pick to have the best value for money?

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Setup:

Clarion Digital Mechless HU
PPI 4ch 110wrms x 4

JBL GTO 608C 6.5" Splits
Bonecrusher 2 4000w rms @ 1 ohm 12v
4 150ah Exide Sealed Batteries

6 Elevation Audio SQx 12"

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Stinger RCA's


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Posted 17 December 2011 - 12:20 AM

Find someone that stocks Fli Undergroung, they make an 8 ibch split set... Awesome speakers for aroung the 200 dollar mark, bridge that 4 channel and give them 220w per side... That would be my choice...

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 08:23 AM

Find some cheap horn drivers and big ass pro audio mid bass's.

Try usspeaker.com

faital pro 8 inch mid bass

faital pro compression driver on their STH100 horn or a horn of your choice

nice, cheap and very loud

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 09:27 AM

The simple way across, is like you suggested multiple coaxials. 2 x 4" co-axial (or the biggest you can fit) per side on axis on chanells 1 and 2 on a 2ohm load, hi pass from about 200hz and on channels 3/4 bridge a single f-off 10" for midbass properly boxed in the passanger footwell, band passed, say 200 to 35hz...

Provided the amp doesn't distort, you will suprised how loud it will go, ussually the amp gives up the ghost before a speaker does. decent install, as always, will be critical.
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Posted 17 December 2011 - 12:03 PM

i love the idea of dual 4" coaxais up on the dash or somewhere along those lines, with some big assed midbass enclosed on the floor or even doors if your keen for some butchery...

how much room have you got on the floors...? i know driving with floor pods can be a giant pain in the rear, but if you've got the room then use it!

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 03:29 PM

This is what i have to work with.

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And rather big plain doors that im happy to butcher and cut metal :P

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Wheel arches are 15cm wide 15cm deep and 40cm height.

Doors are 100cm long (1m) and 40cm height on the door cards.

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Setup:

Clarion Digital Mechless HU
PPI 4ch 110wrms x 4

JBL GTO 608C 6.5" Splits
Bonecrusher 2 4000w rms @ 1 ohm 12v
4 150ah Exide Sealed Batteries

6 Elevation Audio SQx 12"

Shok Industries 0gauge
Stinger RCA's


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Posted 17 December 2011 - 03:58 PM

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I placed one of the woofers out of my jensen speakers in there it is an 8" driver but can't find any specs on the driver.

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Setup:

Clarion Digital Mechless HU
PPI 4ch 110wrms x 4

JBL GTO 608C 6.5" Splits
Bonecrusher 2 4000w rms @ 1 ohm 12v
4 150ah Exide Sealed Batteries

6 Elevation Audio SQx 12"

Shok Industries 0gauge
Stinger RCA's


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Posted 17 December 2011 - 04:02 PM

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Dash is hollow and basic as so i could always put them in the dash.

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Setup:

Clarion Digital Mechless HU
PPI 4ch 110wrms x 4

JBL GTO 608C 6.5" Splits
Bonecrusher 2 4000w rms @ 1 ohm 12v
4 150ah Exide Sealed Batteries

6 Elevation Audio SQx 12"

Shok Industries 0gauge
Stinger RCA's


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Posted 17 December 2011 - 05:27 PM

well at wow sight and sound they got fusion encounter splits for $69 a pair ? so you can pick these up $276 for 4 sets ??? i know there hella cheap and crap. But atleast you go a few sets to atleast make it loud ?

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 05:42 PM

Yeh a guy tried that on here and they were meant to be that horrible.

For loud and cheap the best bet im looking at sofar is a 8 or 10 inch driver in the kick and either 2 4" Coax or a Super Tweeter

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Setup:

Clarion Digital Mechless HU
PPI 4ch 110wrms x 4

JBL GTO 608C 6.5" Splits
Bonecrusher 2 4000w rms @ 1 ohm 12v
4 150ah Exide Sealed Batteries

6 Elevation Audio SQx 12"

Shok Industries 0gauge
Stinger RCA's


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Posted 17 December 2011 - 06:34 PM

I like the drivers you listed Ant but the shipping is $122 just for 1 of the 8" drivers :\

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Setup:

Clarion Digital Mechless HU
PPI 4ch 110wrms x 4

JBL GTO 608C 6.5" Splits
Bonecrusher 2 4000w rms @ 1 ohm 12v
4 150ah Exide Sealed Batteries

6 Elevation Audio SQx 12"

Shok Industries 0gauge
Stinger RCA's


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Posted 17 December 2011 - 07:03 PM

what if you combine all of them together, the shipping shouldn't be to much more.

Dont know if there is a distributor in aus for them.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 08:25 PM

as per facebook, i DEFINITELY vote going with some decent 10"s in those kicks, along with 2 pairs of 4" coaxials up in the dash on axis...

something like Boston Acoustics S45 4" that i used in the corona would be perfect, costing only a retail of $79 a pair, they're cheap enough, and crossed over around 300hz ish with a bit of power up them they'll just about take your head off, MORE than enough to keep up with your substage...

i'm not too sure about midbass choice, but i can tell you eminence have an aussie distributor, who are MORE than helpful, i have a full retail pricelist sitting here they sent thru if you would like to check it out... not the cheapests of products, but they are of quite a high quality...

the alpha 10a retails at $119 each...thru to the kappa 10a @ $255 a piece, and there's a couple others in between....

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:36 AM

Your kicks are the same as mine... HUGE!!!!

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:59 AM

looking at those pics i say fit the biggest midbass's you can in the kicks, 8's are fine. Then a single pair of 4" coax's on axis in the corner were the dash, windscreen and the a pillar meet. if you can geta baffle across all 3 big enough to mount a 4" coax there, then using bog/filler blend it all in, so all surfaces meet neatly onto the baffle it will work like a waveguide of sorts!!

tried to do a little pic of sorts, here the 4" looks like its pointing to the dash too much, get it to point at you! and same on other side, point at you. on nice blended baffles and playing from about 250/300hz up they will be loud and clear. The trick is to have the dash, windscreen, pillar and window work for you, hence the blended baffle.

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