Looking for feedback or suggestions for new car.new car time!
Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:58 AM
2005-07 Jeep Wrangler (4x4)
2008 Dodge Advenger (FWD)
2006+ Hilux Single or Space cab (RWD)
2009-10 D40 Navara (4x4)
20011-12 Ranger Single cab (RWD)
Any others you want to add?
Pretty much after something that would make a nice cruiser (even with a little bit of work), no more then $35,000 and is going to be my base for a SQ/L install. Oh and i plan to black it out even tho that will mean cleaning verey 2nd day...
So please give me feed back or other suggestions to what i can look at cause honestly im not really sure...
Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:59 AM
ANY toyota land cruiser.. those things are beasts, and quite good for offroading and general driving
Posted 24 February 2012 - 08:36 AM
I don't go off roading much unless I gotta make a U turn in a tight street/road in my Magna...
But 4x4 although not important to me I would still use it depending on the vehicle. Like in a Wrangler id take it shooting on properties but still keep it nice and tidy for the street. So its not important but mabey handy.
Posted 24 February 2012 - 09:35 AM
My brother owns a 2009 PK Ranger Wildtrak. While it is awesome value for money compared to the overpriced Hilux, it still feels a bit cheap and the turbo diesel engine needs more refinement as it is very rattly compared to newer more hi-tech designs. The auto isnt very good by different reports I've read they tend to overheat and sometimes have clutch pack issues causing them to slip constantly.
As much as I hate to say it, you cant go wrong with a Toyota: yes you do pay significantly more for less vehicle, but they seem to be stronger and more reliable and are based on a "tried and proven" / "if it aint broke don't fix" theory.
Prado would be my choice, such a great car apart from the lack of heavy duty towing ability of it's rivals
Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:13 AM
Hilux is probably a bit old - but being a 'yota it'll retain value quite well. Tradies love 'em. Especially an SR5 on 22" rims.
Ranger is going to be the newest vehicle - but FoMoCo/Mazda arent really reknown for building exceptional tradie vehicles. Unless its a T or F truck I'd personally steer clear. Having said that they are a well apointed vehicle and you could probably pickup a demonstrator model for that kind of money.
D40 Navara is IMO quite a nice car and IMO best value for money. Its not going to retain value as well as the 'yota though and unless the previous owner has converted it to solid flywheel and heavy duty clutch then go the auto or be prepared to smoke a clutch. (Although same can be said about most dual mass flywheels in commercial vehicles from my understanding)
R51 pathy is probably a good alternative.
Why such large cars?
I drive a GU Patrol wagon and having driven both D40 twincabs and Hilux space cabs they make the Patrol feel small to drive.
Kluger is another decent option.
IMO go the auto. They're all bigger vehicles and better suited to autos (plus you'll break less). If you tow anything then an auto is the only way to go. I'm concidering converting my patrol to auto - but the $12,000 price tag scares me a little...
Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:17 AM
Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:28 AM
Still don't know what I want but I think I might rule jeep out.
I do like the D40 but if I could find something a tad cheaper.
Doesn't have to be a 4x4. scouring carsales as we speak ha!
Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:58 AM
You wont get an ST-X in an '09-10 for your money. You might get an ST but more likely an RX which only come in a manual AFAIK.
Remember every vehicle on your list has leaf rear suspension your not going to get a super comfortable ride and they're never going to handle like a sports car. Your FWD magna will out handle any of the cars on your list...
Food for thought.
Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:11 PM
The PK Wildtrak is good value for money as for ~$30,000, you get 3 tonne towing capacity, turbo diesel, < 3 year old, awesome 18 inch wheels, leather/alcentara iinterior, digital temp/compass/altimeter/inclinometer, bodykit and retractable sliding hardlid (unfortunately tailgate isnt lockable).
The 4x2 Navara kingcab with the 4.0 V6 is a good choice if you dont need 4x4. It has a class leading 200kw engine and in the lightweight (in compison) chassis they go VERY well.
Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:47 PM
Hardest thing is finding something already black for the right price especially Navara's did find this tho:
http://www.carsales....,Max~1&__N=1216 1246 1247 1252 1282 4294963846 4294963186 4294963086 4294789961&vertical=Car&distance=25
Also hard to find one without a bull bar and roll bar!
looked at a Few PK Wildtraks and they dont look to bad and under $40k anyone know how much room is behind the rear seats?
Would like to stretch my budget to $50k as i dont mind the New shape FJ Cruiser in Black but its a bit to much...
Edited by LOUDnLOW, 24 February 2012 - 04:12 PM.
Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:03 PM
I'd say prado or rav maybe.. both are decent, both are cheaper and nearly as good as cruisers, and in auto, should tow most things
My mums prado gli (i think) is really nice to drive. Not too bouncy, pretty decent on power, huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge space around a pillars (must stress this) Pretty tall, 6 stacker cd player (would be replaced, but it's not bad) 7 (or 8 ) seats, v6, towing... stuff like that...
I'd love a prado if i could afford one... but if i could afford one, i'd probably just go out and buy an eg civic and play with it :3
Edited by Ben-Drifter, 24 February 2012 - 04:03 PM.
Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:33 PM
Think i need to win the lottery!
Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:03 PM
that's the 08.. may be out of your range.. dunno... was the one i was talking about
And this isn't a great photo, but it kinda shows the pillars
May be smaller than i'm making them out to be... but they look huge in the car :|
Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:56 PM
errr still dont know, if the car was a nice black colour, and the grill was black, some 18" black 4x4 rims and nice tread, a bit of tint and get rid of the roof rack and then... mabey...
I guess its just not my car? Id have to get some one to do a photo chop... on the other hand if i had plenty of money to buy with id like a new Range Rover done up like the one off the Vossen Facebook page...
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Edited by LOUDnLOW, 24 February 2012 - 05:59 PM.
Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:38 PM
But I think it'd be easy enough to find a black one, and make it look how you wanted
Posted 25 February 2012 - 08:57 AM
Had a look at the PK Wildtrak and the ones in black look pretty decent, i still think the new PX model looks better but id probably be happy with the PK Wildtrak.
Posted 25 February 2012 - 11:32 AM
Dissapointed about the power out put and rear end tho...
Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:38 PM
Edited by sostok, 25 February 2012 - 12:39 PM.
Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:54 PM
Im liking the PK Wildtrak in Black, how well would they hold there value? just something else i should keep in mind but not focus strongly on.
Just gonna throw it out there but what about X-Trails or Subaru Liberty (non Turbo)? peoples thoughts on them?
Posted 25 February 2012 - 02:21 PM
Liberties are pretty reliable but the seats are crap and the doors are pretty thin so they need to be deadened to stop drumming, seem to hold their value quite well too. Does anyone know if the Liberty is still made in Japan?
Posted 25 February 2012 - 02:53 PM
I'm kind of keen about a Land Rover D3 but Insurance and service/parts make it questionable... found one forum were the D3 has had alot of people vouch for its reliability and base don a few reviews it seems it does well off road.
Edited by LOUDnLOW, 25 February 2012 - 03:05 PM.
Posted 25 February 2012 - 03:45 PM
Liberty would be good, they handle well afaik, and are quite nice.
My friend has an 0..3? model i think.. last of the nice looking ones. Very nice car
Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:37 PM
xtrail great cars reliable japanese motoring interiors sometimes a little basic but nothing a few mods couldnt fix...my 2 cents anyway
apart from some sort of massive failure landy's are pretty basic and you can do quite a bit yourself if you can wield a spanner too
Edited by sostok, 25 February 2012 - 05:41 PM.
Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:43 PM
Just thought mabey a Aurion? a newer model.
Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:47 PM
tdv6 plenty of go and can be tuned too chips available
Posted 25 February 2012 - 06:16 PM
wont be buying for another month or two hopefully not any longer so no doubt ill change my mind again, but i do really like the D3 and a few reveiws say its good of road but yea i wont be taking it shooting like i would with a Wrangler haha!
Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:02 PM