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[Ben DePellegrini]

Evening family,

Before I part with hard-earned dollars on the new HU (love the look of the Clarion CZ702a, and it gives me room to change things up a lot if i want to), I wanna know what Splits & Coaxials are good to take a beating in an SPL car.

Naturally my OCD makes me want to go and buy lot of Clarion gear to match the HU, so before I go and harass my mates at Autobarn T'gon for a package, does anyone have any suggestions for component speakers that work well if you run say 3sets upfront and a couple in the rear? Is it alright to run a beefy 4channel or two, and series/parallel the speakers up so they're still a 2 or 4ohm load? (Say 3x 75w rms per corner, means i'd be after a 4x225+w rms amp?)

Bueno

[Lunchbox.inc]

as i tell alot of people doing this same thing, Morel Maximo's... they're cheap and sound fantastic! there's obviously PLENTY of options out there, but for me the Maximo's are a winner, they sound great, get plenty loud enough with some power up them, and they even look good as well!! hahaha

Mark from Team XSNOISE was running 3 pairs in small pods off the front doors of his mazda 121 SPL car last time i saw, his front stage kept up with mine in the charade without a sweat, and mine was running 4x pairs of 6x9s in full door builds, off 100rms a piece... so they get VERY loud for the money, and sound great doing it...

[D34M0N.inc]

Yeh morel maximo's are the go Loved the sound of them in Marks car easily kept up with his walled 6 12's off 2 bonecrushers.

[miniell]

hi mate. it sounds like there already onto a winner. although i had 2 cadence 8" mids per door in my old bmer but off 250wrms per mid and some pyramid audio tweeters getting 125wrms.
http://www.cadenceso...cts/CVLM88.html
http://www.parts-exp...tnumber=270-135
the clarity wasnt there but i think that was a lot to do with my install. but i tell you they got daaaaam loud. i opened the doors at a car cruz in an underground carpark. you literaly couldnt hear the person next to you yelling in your ear from 50m away. sounded a lot like a nightclub. downside is my subs had no chance of keeping up lol. but that was a $300 setup from a fellow member in the FS section.
look into pro audio drivers. winner in terms of output.

[Lunchbox.inc]

pro audio drivers are DEFINITELY a winner, but can take quite a bit of fabrication to it into the doors... as the speakers are often quite deep too...

i do love your doors however!!!

[bobo333]

If your gonna go all out on the falcon for SPL you might as well cut up the doors to get pro mids in aswell, 2x8" or even a 12" should be pretty easy to get in if your not afraid to cut stuff and will go loud as hell

[Fever.tapaz]

lol bobo keep putting crap in his head ..

[bobo333]

he he he

[Ben DePellegrini]

Beautiful guys! And yes Bobo, I am literally putting together ideas for glassed door skins now. I'm thinking like 2x 6.5"s and 2x 4"s in the fronts and a 6.5 and an 8" in the rears. If I'm sacrificing my car to the SPL Gods, I want the stereo to be nice & capable.

Who stocks Morel in VIC? I've decided that any monies spent on my stereos that I make through work & eBay etc will be invested in local businesses that support us here at MEA. Afterall, I've learnt a lot so far, and want to continue to learn & share car audio for a long time so spending a bit more and keeping the money local seems like the best idea to me

[bobo333]

2x6" and 2x4" is full of soft... needs moar 12"!

[Lunchbox.inc]

in Vic you have a few options, Riverside customs sells morel, as do Frankston Car audio, with FCA being closer to out your way...

[089JAY]

If it is gunna be a burper I'd be carefully reading the DB Drag rulings on build outs mate.

[Ben DePellegrini]

Not gunna be a burper Jay, music all the way mate

[089JAY]

Not gunna be a burper Jay, music all the way mate

NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This went from being cool to slightly less cooler with just 1 statement

[bobo333]

are you serious jay? MUSIC FTW

[Big_Valven]

Cone area all the way! Cone area and efficiency

[Callan Fraser]

MUSIC!

[089JAY]

are you serious jay? MUSIC FTW

Serious, I have much love for Pounding but I just don't see the point in hitting a 50 from the trunk with nothing to compare it too rules wise and such

MUSIC!

NO!!!!!!

[D34M0N.inc]

Yeh but atleast you get to enjoy it outside of comps for demo's etc.

[Ben DePellegrini]

You crazy turkeys!

I can forsee that the 150 will be done with either a burp or a very select sample of tuned music, but for the other 358 days a year when i'm not trying to win an MEA trophy, I do want to play rich, dynamic and LOUD music!

[ryzaa]

Lots of large efficient drivers. As a minimum PA 10s in the door, and then something to keep up mid range, then some horn loaded tweeters of some description, kick to take your head off and highs to shatter glass, cheap, easy loud. And even if distortion is up, you have more then enough headroom in efficiency to make up for it.

[Ben DePellegrini]

Would I be penalized for having 10" drivers in the doors? (i.e. ill be competing in street B with my 2x 12's, am i going to be knocked up to the likes of Inter B for having 4 woofers?) or are component speakers not considered part of the setup for bass-battle?

[D34M0N.inc]

Being infront of the B pillar and being used for higher freq i doubt it will be an issue but can't hurt to double check.

[woodzyspl]

db drag, depend how do the doors...maybe classed in extreme..

[089JAY]

db drag, depend how do the doors...maybe classed in extreme..

That was my thoughts aswell but db drag doesn't matter for this build

[broadz]

Morel Maximos or Morel Tempo (worth the extra money)

Many different stores sell them, including one shop in Morwell , Frankston Car Audio, Phatt Audio or Riverside Customs

Only problem I've always noticed is no matter how many 6 inch speakers you have up front you almost always need larger, beefier midbasses to fill the audible gap between 40-200hz. Both Jamie's (RYDFMX) Hiace and Swift were a good example of mulitple 6 inch drivers simply not keeping up with the subbass for that solid "fullrange" sound.

Multiple 8s or 10s is where its at... Realistically dual 8 midbass per door with midrange and tweeters should be achieveable in an el/ef falcon. I've seen 10s and 12s in the door but becomes very obstructive and downright dangerous to the driver.

Jamie's latest groundpounder (mercedes vito) will feature dual tens + 6 + tweeters per door

Edited by broadz, 04 July 2012 - 03:27 PM.

[woodzyspl]

check parts express for pyle pro 10" drivers..few guys who have run selenium and crecendo PA stuff, say they piles are damm close and alot cheaper..

id prefer crecendo tho lol