VE HU options whilst retaining OEM control?
Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:04 PM
For those that haven't, I have done a basic audio upgrade - decent amp, massively improved splits and a tasty little sub mounted behind the drivers seat.
All in all it has been money very well spent. Then again once you start down this road, it tends to be a journey of many steps (at least for me)...
...from day dot the plan has always been to add a DSP as the system is really held back without time alignment and poor EQ options and just lately I have been noticing some whine introduced at highish listening levels when using the aux in.
So this has got me thinking. When i do add a DSP it will obviously benefit from the cleanest signal possible. The factory sound is mediocre at best so it would seem to make sense to add an aftermarket HU.
Easier said than done in the VE - and I'm not interested in the God Awful $600 facia kit that gives me the finest looking buttons from the late 1970's to control HVAC! So I'm thinking of adding a single Din HU either at the bottom of the console, in front of the shifter - if it will fit properly, or stashed away in the glove box - if i can control it remotely.
So who has done this? To make it viable for me I would need to retain the factory steering wheel controls, so may need a suitable CANBUS module - any recommendations?
Also I have always liked Eclipse gear and the price of the 5030 is tempting at the moment. Would i be better served ponying up for a P80? Am I overlooking any other options? (anything from Alpine etc..?)
Thanks for reading guys, any and all opinions are appreciated!
Posted 23 July 2012 - 04:57 PM
Looks like I'll forge ahead with the 5030 and hope I can patch in a PAC module to retain the OEM control... (or more accurately, my installer can!)
Will update the build thread with pix etc..
Posted 23 July 2012 - 05:38 PM
Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:23 AM
My problem with retaining the factory HU, apart from it being generally poo! Is (& I probably shouldn't tell you this as the novice judge) that it picks up heaps of noise thru the aux in.
The sad fact of modern life for me is that I'm an iPod junkie! The majority of my music is ripped lossless and it sounds great streaming at home.
I still buy CDs but they all get ripped to iTunes and for me at least I see this as my playback mechanism going forward.
It seems a little backward to me to take an analogue out from a digital device, introduce noise, re-digitize the compromised signal, convert it back to analogue, send it to a DSP, where it will undergo further A/D, be processed, D/A converted and then amplified.
Surely digital out from pod, processed in a decent HU (all my car gear is what I class decent as opposed to high end) and then D/A and amplified makes more sense?
Retaining the option of going thru an external DSP down the road if it's worthwhile?
If I just (or primarily) listened to CDs I would think that factory unit to DSP would be the go but with the 5030 at sub $200 it seems to be worth having a crack...
Posted 24 July 2012 - 01:04 PM
You have a point with regards to AUX in. I really only think about the CD player when thinking SQ since even if I do put lossless tracks on an Ipod in my opinion it's a step backward, but that's a combination of tangible and intangible.
I really would spend a couple hundred bucks above the Eclipse as a minimum, it's a tempting deal if you look at the bottom line but it has some pretty serious shortcomings which aren't mentioned on paper. I don't want to rubbish them for the sake of it but they're quite unrefined.
Posted 24 July 2012 - 01:15 PM
Edited by Magnum9, 24 July 2012 - 01:23 PM.
Posted 24 July 2012 - 01:50 PM
As you adjust your HVAC controls, the screen should automatically interupt the signal to show the HVAC controls and revert back to the headunit display.
This is essentially how nidekcus (Andrew) did his VE1 SSV show system