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#1 KickerCat

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Posted 12 January 2006 - 08:36 AM

I have just found the manufacturer (jaycar) specs for my sub, and also used the carstereo.com calculator to find the correct box size. They both suggest a box that is nearly half the size of my current box (I didn't build the current one, btw). At the moment the sub is a little boomy, but mostly its ok... Am I going to notice a worthwhile improvement putting it in a smaller box?

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Posted 12 January 2006 - 10:40 AM

probly make it more boomy.

get a few phone book's or bricks (anything solid) and put them in there to lower the internal volume and see how it sounds.
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Posted 12 January 2006 - 10:43 AM

Rob, on Jan 12 2006, 11:40 AM, said:

probly make it more boomy.

get a few phone book's or bricks (anything solid) and put them in there to lower the internal volume and see how it sounds.

:blink: I don't think a smaller box would make it more boomy.

As said, chuck some blocks of timber into your box and screw it down. The difference will be quite noticeable.
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Posted 12 January 2006 - 10:54 AM

Yeah I would have thought a smaller box would be LESS boomy... Thats what all the sub articles I read say... I'll try the phone books though - that'll tell me pretty quickly.

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Posted 12 January 2006 - 11:06 AM

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If the box is too small, then the resonant frequency will be too high, causing a dramatic decrease in efficiency and a peaking response from the sub

stazed i guess you have never built many sub box's in your illustrious career in car audio?
QUOTE (RMA @ Feb 6 2010, 01:22 AM) My only regrets are:
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Posted 12 January 2006 - 11:20 AM

it depends how you define boomy :)

My Hertz was in a 1.5cu ft box..... timber was screwed in to lower it to 0.9cu ft.... response was tighter and less boomy.

Maybe my ears lied to me.

Edited by stazed, 12 January 2006 - 11:23 AM.

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Posted 12 January 2006 - 11:42 AM

DAMN! The box recommended for my sub is 1.8 cubic feet! My box now must be massive hehehehehehehe :)

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Posted 12 January 2006 - 06:58 PM

Well! I put two phone books in my box, and its SOO much cleaner and less boomy now. Think I'll invest in the MDF to make the correct size box on the weekend!

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Posted 12 January 2006 - 10:10 PM

why not just leave the phone books in there?
QUOTE (RMA @ Feb 6 2010, 01:22 AM) My only regrets are:
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Posted 12 January 2006 - 11:12 PM

cuz itll be a bitch anytime he needs to find a number :P (sorry couldnt resist)

haha I know personally i would fix it properly could also be coz i know my driving style and would need to superglue the whole book together then glue it nail it and screw it into the box

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 07:47 AM

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA Pay that one killaklown :lol: The box is pretty dodge anyway - 12mm MDF, and ported. I'd rather have a decent box than try to patch up this one :)

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 08:47 AM

Boomy usually is used to describe a peaky sound, normally from 50-70Hz. Small boxes tend to generate this kind of response.

Perhaps by boomy the author of this thread meant "thick" or an over exaggeration of lower frequencies, which can be caused by too large a box.

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 09:48 AM

Yes, that is what the author meant DD Phil :P Kinda muddy, and not distinct, and generally 'too much'.

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 09:49 AM

So loose?

Too big then. :)

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 02:56 AM

polystyrene foam is your friend when it comes to reducing volume...its cheap, V light and easy to secure
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