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Sub install - Whats the best setup for SQ or doesnt it matter?


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#1 54VED

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 01:48 PM

Well I have a n14 pulsar, so have a fairly decent boot space and want to keep as much boot space as possible. I have to ideas with out to mount my subs and thought the best way to decribe it was use a picture (1 picture is worth a 1000 words ;) )Attached File  rough_sketch.JPG   22.33K   18 downloads

so basicly was wondering which is better? option 1 or 2? the arrows indicate the direction the sub would be facing. Both options would be facing slightly angled up toward the boot lid. Would I maybe be best off facing directly backwards (as in square to the back of the car)?

Any suggestions Im open to. Thanks.

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 05:12 PM

whats ur budget, with the right person working on it, you could actually mount them at the bottom-front of each front seat, giving u up-front, stereo bass

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 12:14 PM

~Spyne~, on Jul 10 2006, 07:12 AM, said:

you could actually mount them at the bottom-front of each front seat, giving u up-front, stereo bass

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With small subs under the front seats, would it be better to mount them:
  • Vertically (at 90 degrees) facing the footwells/pedals?
  • Horizontally (up - firing straight up in to the seat or down - firing into the car floor)?
  • At the bottom front of each seat firing forwards/upwards at an angle?
I'm just wondering how to go about mounting my Utopia 5 WS subwoofers (5 3/8 inch subs, 3L sealed boxes, prob actively highpassed at 50 Hz and lowpassed at 100-150 Hz)

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 12:46 PM

f3nr15, on Jul 11 2006, 12:14 PM, said:

HIJACK
With small subs under the front seats, would it be better to mount them:

[*]Vertically (at 90 degrees) facing the footwells/pedals?
[*]Horizontally (up - firing straight up in to the seat or down - firing into the car floor)?
[*]At the bottom front of each seat firing forwards/upwards at an angle?
]
I'm just wondering how to go about mounting my Utopia 5 WS subwoofers (5 3/8 inch subs, 3L sealed boxes, prob actively highpassed at 50 Hz and lowpassed at 100-150 Hz)
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50Hz is going to be pretty hard to acheive at meaningful volumes with that smaller woofer and that smaller enclosure. That said it will work very well at the lower volumes.

The two cars that I have seen utlising such a set up both had your option 3 - that is they were mounted at the front of the seats pointing and porting at a 65* angle such that the on-axis response would reflect directly off the windscreen. Whilst I do not know what the high and low pass figures were on these installs, judging by their install I would say that they were also running the low pass rather high (as you are planning to do) meaning that directionality was starting to become an issue.

It should also be pointed out that the two setups that I have heard were exceptional, but both were undertaken by a professional installer with over 20 years experience and one of the installs was utilising horns etc etc.

The question that I would ask is - if you have such small woofers, why aren't you mounting them in your kick pannels? The obvious response I guess is that this is where you have your mid-range mounted (assuming that you have a midrange though if you didn't low-passing at 150Hz might be a bit silly!). That said I am currently mounting my Dyn MW150's (5.7" woofers) in my kick pannels, and venting them into a 65L cavity that runs under the door jambs. This would be a far better way of going in my opinion if there was nothing stopping you.


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I can't see your attachment (as I am at work) so this might have already been mentioned there. But what sized woofers do you have? As Spyne suggested an ideal install would have the majority of the bass coming from the front, and effect which is best produced when this is also where your woofers are placed!
Depending on the size of the woofers and the frequency range that you are planning on running, either the kick pannels or the door cavity are the best places to mount.
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Posted 12 July 2006 - 08:26 AM

The subs I have are vibe 8" woofers (exact8) and an audioson 2 channel amp to power them.... I already have a 3 way setup (rainbow) using up space in my door/kick panels which Im luving and has quite good bass and very tight, but not deep like having some subs.

Basicly I was looking at giving it a go myself, and then probably end up getting cartunez to fix up my mistakes hahaha (like with my 3 ways lol). So is mounting them up front the ideal position? Im unsure about space as its a pulsar so no where as big footwell as a falcon (I think pyro had some up front in his?!?). What about the options I provided?

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 05:46 PM

Have you thought of having them facing into the cabin, from behind the the rear seats?

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 06:01 PM

Probably wont matter all that much. But id prob put them both against the back of the seat facing the hatch. Where had u planned on crossing them over?? Dont bother with the curved boxes or anything. It would so simple to build a box that goes up against the back of the seats and fits in between the wheel arches. You'd also save yourself alot of boot space this way.
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Posted 14 July 2006 - 01:50 PM

LexARSE, on Jul 12 2006, 06:01 PM, said:

Probably wont matter all that much. But id prob put them both against the back of the seat facing the hatch. Where had u planned on crossing them over?? Dont bother with the curved boxes or anything. It would so simple to build a box that goes up against the back of the seats and fits in between the wheel arches. You'd also save yourself alot of boot space this way.


yep... this is the plan that Ive settled on. Building a box = easier than fibreglassing haha

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