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[zion187reigneth]

i been looking at this thread for a while and even though i cant post my dream setup because i dont know any high end stuff . BUt i had a look in on a freinds 100K+(rrp) home audio setup and i could see how 30K could be used up very quickly...........zion

[jas]

ill make it easier for you zion

choose an all pioneer ORD or all alpine f1status components (amps, subs, tweeters, mids headunits).

at least you know they will be of reasonable quality

[SCorpion]

am i going to be the only one to recommend an analogue source?? sure its not practical, but that wasn't ever a condition.

[~thematt~]

What, the turntable? I reckon it would look good, and thats about it.

Just imagine changing disks at the lights. Real goofy

[SCorpion]

my ex reference system had both a turntable and a valve cd player. it was great to have a turntable but we didn't actually use it very often. still sounded as good as a cd player if u didnt mind the extra bit of noise.

[Fury♫]

How would the turn table go in the harsh car environment?
How would it like going over bumps, or sudden braking?

[The Don]

Fury, on Aug 15 2006, 12:26 AM, said:

How would the turn table go in the harsh car environment?
How would it like going over bumps, or sudden braking?

Not the best. My dad used to have his sitting on marble. I don't think the car environment is the right place for a piece of equipment like that unless you are stationery and out of the car.

[SCorpion]

it would sound goddam awful. most of the advancements for turntables have been about keeping the needle from bouncing out of its groove. the biggest difference between a $200 turntable and the $700 ones are generally that the needle is leaving the vinyl less often.



and he never specified that it was in a moving car. if it was a moving car u probably couldn't hear the difference between a 20k stereo or a 30k stereo.

[kov00]

Personally I kinda think spending $30k on car audio parts isnt really necessary to have an ultimate competition winning setup

If I was trying to make a sweet sounding setup why complicate things more than you have to

Source Unit: Alpine F1 Status
Reason: Benchmark Electronics Quality
Cost: $3000

Front Sp: Dynaudio System Esotars with 7" MW160 Driver
Reason: Superb sound and proven SQ winner
Cost: $2000

Main Amp: DLS Ultimate A4 4 x 85w Amplifier
Reason: Great sounding Amp with heaps of dynamics
Cost: $2000

Sub: DD 9112 12" SQ woofer
Reason: Just bought it sounds unbelievably smooth
Cost: $1400

Sub Amp: DLS Ultimate A6 Monoblock Amplifier
Reason: Great sounding Powerful Amplifier
Cost: $2000

Cabling: Stinger Expert Series Power cable, RCA's, Distribution
Reason: Simply awesome gear with no noise
Cost: $2000

Deadening: Dynamat Extreme Bulk kit
Reason: Industry Benchmark in deadening
Cost: $1000 for 3 bulk kits

Battery: Optima Yellow Top
Reason: Industry Standard
Cost: $350

Thats the hardware and with retail I come to $13750 for parts which I think would be extremely difficult to pick the difference between that and a $30k system

Edited by kov00, 16 August 2006 - 12:21 AM.

[SCorpion]

of course it would be hard to pick the difference between a 10k system and 30k system for the majority of ppl. thats because u have hit the point of diminshing returns.



and i personally wouldn't be spending 30k on any car audio. i'd be into home audio, but thats not wat he asked.



and having an analogue source or having an amp for each channel isn't really going to complicate things now is it? primarily because u would think only very experienced audiophiles would purchase 30k of car audio gear.

[~thematt~]

I agree. Though if I had 30k, Id be spending 15k on both home and car.



And Kov, IIRC the F#1 status head has jack all processing (read:none) without the outboard processor (extra 4k). So you might wanna add that to your list as well

[Shreknos]

dont nead a processor, just another thing to make noise, and screw up through mucknig around...

passive on the dyns,

sub active off h/u...

[fuddbutter]

i would run the F#1 processor if i was getting the source.

[kov00]

Affirmative I havent heard the 2 together so I guess Im not equipped to make that call but being an Alpine purchaser from way back I have nothing but praise for their electronics after buying my last 5 headunits of that brand 9815, 9831, 9833, 9855, IVA310E being my last 5 headunits would u believe the first 3 were stolen and not just the headunit the whole car on all occasions in differnt cities talk about your crap luck lol..............

[Pyroay]

fuddbutter, on Aug 12 2006, 02:16 PM, said:

im gunna take a wild guess and say most people on here are picking things like the Rainbow ref's cause there mega $$$ even though have never heard them (and may not have even heard anything from the range)

I think your probably right.


A lot of people when given an unlimited budget pick exptic things just because they are huge $$ without actually trialling them. I guess reality is most people would never get to audition most of that top end stuff let alone all of it to make a truley informed decision. Even for those who have heard it all to do it justice you would need to hear it all under the same conditions in the same vehicle.


I know i have never heard amps like Brax or Butler altohugh i do hear good things about them.

PS when your running a heaunit into a processor (i.e.e headunit is transport only) how much difference is there anyway between optical outputs in SQ terms?

Edited by Pyroay, 18 August 2006 - 03:07 PM.