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Spending alot of time planning the next installation. The two main factors I'm taken into consideration is Cost Vs Sound.
One of the main ideas being thrown around is doing a Dynaudio system and running them off the Alpine Pdx amps. This has alot of advantages when compared to running them off the Tru Technology billet amps. But the offset is, some people have suggested that the Dyns will sound phenomenal using the Tru Tech compared to the Alpine equivalent. This is probably the case but the Tru Tech set-up will be well over double the cost of the alpine set-up
Has anyone had experience with the Dyn/Alpine combination?? Or the Dyn/Tru Tech combination??
Failing that, what are peoples opinions on either combination???
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Started by Woody, Feb 16 2007 09:07 PM
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Woody, on Feb 16 2007, 10:07 PM, said:
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Spending alot of time planning the next installation. The two main factors I'm taken into consideration is Cost Vs Sound.
One of the main ideas being thrown around is doing a Dynaudio system and running them off the Alpine Pdx amps. This has alot of advantages when compared to running them off the Tru Technology billet amps. But the offset is, some people have suggested that the Dyns will sound phenomenal using the Tru Tech compared to the Alpine equivalent. This is probably the case but the Tru Tech set-up will be well over double the cost of the alpine set-up
Has anyone had experience with the Dyn/Alpine combination?? Or the Dyn/Tru Tech combination??
Failing that, what are peoples opinions on either combination???
Thanx,
Wood
Spending alot of time planning the next installation. The two main factors I'm taken into consideration is Cost Vs Sound.
One of the main ideas being thrown around is doing a Dynaudio system and running them off the Alpine Pdx amps. This has alot of advantages when compared to running them off the Tru Technology billet amps. But the offset is, some people have suggested that the Dyns will sound phenomenal using the Tru Tech compared to the Alpine equivalent. This is probably the case but the Tru Tech set-up will be well over double the cost of the alpine set-up
Has anyone had experience with the Dyn/Alpine combination?? Or the Dyn/Tru Tech combination??
Failing that, what are peoples opinions on either combination???
Thanx,
Wood
Dyn & Morel have a very close past so as the Morel distributor I can speak with some degree of sanity.
Personally I would NOT use an Alpine with any Dyn or Morel speaker.
If you like the Asian sound then great go for it, the TT amps have quite a rap for being of good quality albeit at a hefty price.
I would look European or TT (BTW did I mention Audison are European?)
Look at the end of the day, great speakers need a great amp and great amps are not cheep.
Something cheap in the LRx running passive LRx2.9 $899
if its active you want then the LRx 4.1k at $1199 will power those speakers brilliantly
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Posted 16 February 2007 - 11:34 PM
pdx + dyn......no
maybe something like a brax amp or something low noise high power 2 channel amp.
maybe something like a brax amp or something low noise high power 2 channel amp.
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is the PDX a fullrange classD?.........cors
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Posted 17 February 2007 - 12:27 AM
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is the PDX a fullrange classD?.........cors
What about Dyn and Eclipse?
Don't seem to sound too bad
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What about Dyn and Eclipse?
Don't seem to sound too bad
Don't seem to sound too bad
yopu guys are delusional, only amps above 1000 bucks sound good,
and only europeans make good amps....
on a serious note, ive heard nothing but praise about the pdx amps, ive been told they are definitely a step up from v12,
and as i recall, you did very well with v12 amps last year woody,
so, asian amps must suck ay???
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Posted 17 February 2007 - 09:34 AM
Personally I am not a fan of D Class running any appliction other than subs.
Eclipse amps I would say are on par or lower than you Apline base range, they are nothing nasty but I dont see then as anything special either.
Eclipse amps I would say are on par or lower than you Apline base range, they are nothing nasty but I dont see then as anything special either.
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Posted 17 February 2007 - 09:41 AM
just trying to point out that you dont need brax amp to sound good phil...
like i siad, woody was i think 2nd after pyro in the pro show, with 700 dollar alpine amps???
like i siad, woody was i think 2nd after pyro in the pro show, with 700 dollar alpine amps???
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Posted 17 February 2007 - 10:18 AM
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just trying to point out that you dont need brax amp to sound good phil...
like i siad, woody was i think 2nd after pyro in the pro show, with 700 dollar alpine amps???
like i siad, woody was i think 2nd after pyro in the pro show, with 700 dollar alpine amps???
You should visit Sinsheim, Germany in April for the Car Audio show, thats where you see serious cars that REALLY sound good, I think Australia is still way behind in many ways due to a lack of serious competition.
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Posted 17 February 2007 - 10:26 AM
We have done cars running Dynaudio speakers from Alpine V12 amps, Alpine PDX amps, Rockford amps, Audison amps, Kicker amps, Pioneer amps etc etc etc and there was no discernable difference between the Audison, Alpine V12 and Alpine PDX amps.
Having had a little experience using Alpine PDX amps with Dynaudio speakers I am quite comfortable recomending them as quite a good match for each other.
Having had a little experience using Alpine PDX amps with Dynaudio speakers I am quite comfortable recomending them as quite a good match for each other.
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Posted 17 February 2007 - 10:40 AM
Some of the Tri-Path amps (not specifically car audio) have a fantastic rap with any good speaker. But there is still a reported difference in sound of Asian vs. European designs for Tri Path based amplifiers.
I'm not being specific because it's all hearsay. it really does depend on the design of the amplifier's output stage as to what type of sound you will get.
The Tripath switching is 600kHz, and most amps have only a 2nd order filter at 100kHz - wether or not this is audible I guess depends on the type and accuracy of filter used.
I'd personally use a good linear amplifier, until the digital ones get below their 1%THD rating.
found the site I was looking for - comparison of different amp (including tri-path).. http://www.dcx2496.fr/en/tclass.htm
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I'm not being specific because it's all hearsay. it really does depend on the design of the amplifier's output stage as to what type of sound you will get.
The Tripath switching is 600kHz, and most amps have only a 2nd order filter at 100kHz - wether or not this is audible I guess depends on the type and accuracy of filter used.
I'd personally use a good linear amplifier, until the digital ones get below their 1%THD rating.
found the site I was looking for - comparison of different amp (including tri-path).. http://www.dcx2496.fr/en/tclass.htm
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Posted 17 February 2007 - 03:50 PM
I have heard the PDX amps driving an AlpineF#1Status setup (speakers made in Europe) and it sounded phenominal. I know it's hard to audition in this high end range, and all biases aside, I'm sure that you would be more than happy with a PDX / Dynaudio setup.
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Posted 17 February 2007 - 04:05 PM
of course the alpines sound crap phill, why wouldnt they in your oppinion, you dont make a sale.
Woody im sure if you went to northfield Drew would let you demo the alpine's on some dyns.
i like the alpines, think there a great amp.
just cause an amp is asian dose not make it crap. hell the TT's are the same as the abyss and there asian (ok maybe i should say that, flame war here we come.) and they supposed to sound good.
most of the top competitors in the world use jap HU's, dose that mean the whole system will sound crap?
if you want some good euro amps you cant look past the brax *drool* or as the top cars use, Genisis. such fine fine amps!!
Woody im sure if you went to northfield Drew would let you demo the alpine's on some dyns.
i like the alpines, think there a great amp.
just cause an amp is asian dose not make it crap. hell the TT's are the same as the abyss and there asian (ok maybe i should say that, flame war here we come.) and they supposed to sound good.
most of the top competitors in the world use jap HU's, dose that mean the whole system will sound crap?
if you want some good euro amps you cant look past the brax *drool* or as the top cars use, Genisis. such fine fine amps!!
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Posted 17 February 2007 - 04:12 PM
I could be wrong, but I have always found Dyns a sharp and snappy sounding speaker, which I would have thought would have worked very well with Alpines.
That said, unless you are doing back to back comparisons between amps, would it really be that easily to tell?
Woody, or another thought, that is unless you set on Dyns. What about a ID horn set?? Drew seems to have the horn fitting thing well under control??
That said, unless you are doing back to back comparisons between amps, would it really be that easily to tell?
Woody, or another thought, that is unless you set on Dyns. What about a ID horn set?? Drew seems to have the horn fitting thing well under control??
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