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[Pulse-R]

Out of interest Woody - have you tried the JL Audio amps?
I'd be interested to hear your opinion.

[Woody]

The thought never even crossed my mind, Simon. I have never known them to be SQ amps. Although, i have had zero experience with them to be honest.

Are my thoughts wrong?? Are there some JL Amps that are worth considering???

Wood

[Luke352]

What subs are you using Woody, the new IDQ's when come out by any chance, I'm hanging to hear some of these, or maybe the new IDMAX 15's that are meant to be coming.

[Woody]

At this point, the proposed system will be a pair of Dyn 362's in the front (Similar to Hutch's Set-up) with a Dyn 5.25" and tweet/s as a centre channel. Dyn 242's will get rear speaker duty probably being mounted as far back as possible in the C pillars. Likelyhoods are that a pair of IDMAX 12's will get bass duty. There is a slim chance that some speakers will find their way into the rear doors but i am unsure on that at the moment.

This will all be run from a W200RI with the 701 processor. And there will be the regular add-ons such as Ipod and Digital Tv Tuner.

So, as you can see, there's a few nice bits there but i still have to make a decision on amps.

Keep in mind this is just the proposed system and not necessarily what will end up in the car....

Wood

[Pulse-R]

Woody, on Feb 17 2007, 10:18 PM, said:

The thought never even crossed my mind, Simon. I have never known them to be SQ amps. Although, i have had zero experience with them to be honest.

Are my thoughts wrong?? Are there some JL Amps that are worth considering???

Wood

I use the JL 'Slash' series for front stage - reasonably small footprint, and sound quite ok to me - but noone else I've seen uses them; so far it's just my opinion.

[Luke352]

~thematt~, on Feb 17 2007, 07:20 PM, said:

Just saw that. You're right!! I remember reading somewhere that they were Asian. Was a reliable source too.... (goes to show doesnt it).

You may have read it here:
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=137141
here
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread....7141&page=2
or here
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread....7141&page=2

It's interesting reading all the different accounts of the Tru company, my fave is the Tru guy calling the Abyss HU a pos and then some other guy comes along who obviously has some experience with high end gear and gives his opinion off it, it's all rather interesting and funny, but in either case aslong as they make good stuff who gives a damn.

Luke

p.s. english Abyss website http://en.iabyss.co.kr/ it's a bit slow and tempermental though, check the gallery there is some stuff that makes you go wow, actually the whole site makes me go wow.....

Edited by Luke352, 17 February 2007 - 11:35 PM.

[LongGone]

Its pretty well understood that Tru and Abyss were orginally partners. Around 18 months ago this changed with Tru going its own way. This is when the Billet series was conceived.

[~thematt~]

Luke352, on Feb 17 2007, 10:20 PM, said:

You may have read it here:
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=137141
here
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread....7141&page=2
or here
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread....7141&page=2

It's interesting reading all the different accounts of the Tru company, my fave is the Tru guy calling the Abyss HU a pos and then some other guy comes along who obviously has some experience with high end gear and gives his opinion off it, it's all rather interesting and funny, but in either case aslong as they make good stuff who gives a damn.

I didnt read it there, but it jogged my memory. I remember I read it here on CAA. The same guy that posted those is known as Henrysutrino on these boards (i think). He was trying to bring Abyss into Australia IIRC. Its an interesting twist if its not 100% correct.

Sorry about O/T

I like the look of the Billet amps too. So unless you upgrade to Coppers Wood, go the Billets (but add the valve line driver anyway!! )

[Redlined]

Yeah i like the look of the billet's, well they look similar to the previous t series...nonetheless a sexy design it is.

I'm contemplating about the Billet's amps as my next upgrade (still a while away). Haven't heard much about other people's experiences with them though.

Also sorry about o/t also

[ultim8DTM5]

Woody, on Feb 17 2007, 05:34 PM, said:

Rma.... Unfortunately, i'm not a fan of people who troll around this forum trying to sell their equipment to everyone who makes a post. Which is a shame for you as Audison may have been considered had it not been for that factor.



Wood

So by the same reasoning, when you are in the market for a sports car you wouldn't buy a Ferrari or Maserati because you don't like the way the importer sells their product. Gees

[the_iano]

Wood:

I've done a direct comparison at the shop one day. The cars were Phat Devils Camry and Drews TWEAKD ute. To be fair, Anthony hadnt installed his esotar tweeters at that stage and had 240 GTs , but Drews system fed by the Trus won easily. I'll list in point form, tis easier:

- the 240GTs were running off an Alpine MRV-F545 (I think?) and were getting at least 120w RMS per side

- compared to the Trus, the 240GTs running off Alpine amps lacked authority and snap, lacked punch, and lost a ton of detail. The signature Dyn sonics were still there - natural airy unforced presentation, but they didnt sparkle nearly as much as the Trus

- the 362s are a better speaker than the 240s, and wont be done justice running on Alpine imo. I'm sure the PDX are a great amp and would do the job, in the end it depends just how much detail you want to reproduce.

[Woody]

ultim8...

Is Rma i distributor or a retailer??

Now, i have always had the impression that he was a distributor. If this is the case, every transaction he makes through this website is a transaction he either takes off his own retailers or retailers that stock other gear. Undermining both his and everybody elses business.

Am i wrong???

Ian, Tanx for the opinion.

I have a pretty good idea that the Tru's will kill the Pdx's for sound but i still have a pretty big doubt over the space they take up.

At this point, if I use the Pdx's they can be stealthy mounted underneath the front seats. The subs would be fibreglassed into boxes on either side of the boot area leaving me with the ability to fold down the rear seats and have a bulk amount of space.

If i go with the Tru's, the likelyhoods are that they will have to be mounted across the car (from side to side) losing me the abililty to use that fold down capablity...

Wood

[~thematt~]

Woody, on Feb 18 2007, 02:06 PM, said:

I have a pretty good idea that the Tru's will kill the Pdx's for sound

You said it yourself......

Are you designing a Car Audio system that blows you away, or something that makes some decent sound and is easy to install??

[Luke352]

Woody, have you looked at any of the DLS amps, I know Drew can get them, in the same price point of the PDX's they have the Reference series which are meant to be very good and some of the Euro's actually prefer the sound of the Reference amps to the Ultimate series which is in the Tru price range. The reference series are probably a good compromise between Alpine and Tru.

[the_iano]

What about Audio System Twister series? These have a fairly small footprint and a ton of grunt. I have no experience with these amps, but straight off the bat I'd rate them above alpine. Plus they are very reasonably priced too.