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[Luke352]

Pulse-R, on Oct 6 2007, 07:58 PM, said:

the problem is that no car processor has true Pro Logic decoding (which is a pity)

Till now,

[abmolech]

Actually there are a number of true prologic decoders. (Read the licence that comes with the package)

The problem is prologic and logic7 suck. They both do their best not to isolate the singer (vocal in the centre) by playing some material of the outers. This narrows the stage, and is intolerable for a car.

The MS8 is Logic7, the difference is it is SPECIFICALLY designed for a car. No more bleeding the outers to the centre. It has been over three years in trial, this may give you some idea of the complexity of the problem. (Harmon -Kordon have suitable Logic& for home for many years)
A car computer would eat it, but this is most defiantly a major eye opener for the stereo crowd.

[RoVer™]

TEGBOY, on Oct 6 2007, 10:04 PM, said:

Mum's McIntosh based Liberty would benifit from this system. I miss her old X5, that had decent system. The Liberty, is no where as good.

I wish my mum was into McIntosh, and not a stock CD player on stock speakers.

[philz]

~thematt~, on Oct 6 2007, 07:48 PM, said:

Its not the same, nowhere near being the same. If it was the same, I wouldnt care so much!!!

Things it can do that other processors do: Xovers, Time Alignment, EQ.

Things it can do that other processors CANNOT do (available for car market): It has a unique centre channel, and unique front left and rights. It also has unique rear channels.

The centre channel is unique in that during the processing of the signal, it takes SHARED information from the left and right inputs (seeing as there are only two) and plays them as a center. It then plays the individual left and right channel MINUS this shared information at a level 6dB lower then the center. This is extremely clever, and has never been done on the Car Audio market before. It also operates not as an on/off between channels, but like a balance control, will bleed the signal (depending on weight of content between channels) throughout the range between the center and the extremities.

This will produce a REAL stereo image using stereo inputs that currently cannot be done by standard processors. Center signals for stereo sound (not discrete 5.1) simply use a sum of the Left and Right at the same attenuated levels. This will, when you think about it, skew a smaller stage and bias the resultant image .

The rear channels also work in a unique manner. They take ONLY the OUT OF PHASE information portrayed in the front left and right channels, and play that back only. Standard inphase signals arrive ONLY from the front, out of phase signals arrive out of the rear. This will give the perception of a REAL stage, with ambiance and boundaries outside the vehicle.

And above all, it works in real-time, and the setup is done by the unit itself, not the installer.

Now do you think its cool?!?!

Finally! I understand what the hell this thing actually does.

Sounds very neat.

[zion187reigneth]

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Things it can do that other processors CANNOT do (available for car market): It has a unique centre channel, and unique front left and rights. It also has unique rear channels.

Is that the same as a altronics decoder(silicon chip surround decoder)?...............cors

Edited by zion187reigneth, 08 October 2007 - 07:32 AM.

[davesmith]

ok now im interested where can i buy?? .... wholesale whould be nice. Hey the Matt do you sell at 10% to people who only just quit alberts??

[Wh33lzz]

Okay thats a monster frikken thread! Just read the entire thing, if this thing does what is claimed... OMFG.

I'll be buying one nonetheless, its cheaper than audio controls top of the line processing, more powerful than an RF 3SIXTY.2, and sounds like it can suck my d1ck aswell...
looks like around $1100 AU... mmmmm maybe early next year...