I konw its a question of personal preferenece when it comes to products but i wouldnt mind hearing others.
Ive got a pioneer 920R which is similar to a 9350 but with 8volt preouts on all 3,going to 2 JL 500-1's and 1 JL 300-4.
Ive been leaning towards MB Quart PSD 216's or 316's and MB Quart RKC 116 coax's for the rear.
Subs ive been impressed with the JBL w12GTI's so im thinking 2 of them would sound the part.
Budget left is around the 2500-3 mark so keep it real.Thanks all!!!!!!!!!!
Full Version: SQ advice for subs and front,rears.
Welcome aboard Slaz 
You are certainly putting together a quality system. Nice choice of sub-amps simply great things IMO.
Those JBLs are as good a choice as any in their part of the marketplace. So many good subs now it would be hard to imagine unhappiness with any of them (in a QUALITY enclosure). So stick with that choice IMO and go audition some fronts and rears.
You would simply have to listen to Dynaudios for that system IMO, also Focals, Morels, Boston Pros and a number of other things. In a car if you can, it's SO different than a shop demo. And the fronts are far more important than the rears, so that will "distribute" the budget for you.
There are a few of those options in Sydney CAA cars, you might listen to some at a cruze/meet or something.
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
You are certainly putting together a quality system. Nice choice of sub-amps
simply great things IMO.Those JBLs are as good a choice as any in their part of the marketplace. So many good subs now it would be hard to imagine unhappiness with any of them (in a QUALITY enclosure). So stick with that choice IMO and go audition some fronts and rears.
You would simply have to listen to Dynaudios for that system IMO, also Focals, Morels, Boston Pros and a number of other things. In a car if you can, it's SO different than a shop demo. And the fronts are far more important than the rears, so that will "distribute" the budget for you.
There are a few of those options in Sydney CAA cars, you might listen to some at a cruze/meet or something.
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
Critter thanks for the prompt reply champ
Yeah thats what i would like to do as far as listen to as many speaker combo's as i can but no ones got em!!! So ill have to keep my eye out for a cruize day.
I notice your running the Audison amp for your fronts,whats so good about them over the JL???
Ands whats a four channel audison to run front and rear worth roughly?
Yeah thats what i would like to do as far as listen to as many speaker combo's as i can but no ones got em!!! So ill have to keep my eye out for a cruize day.
I notice your running the Audison amp for your fronts,whats so good about them over the JL???
Ands whats a four channel audison to run front and rear worth roughly?
Sorry another question for you critter,your sub is a kicker square is it??
How do you find it as i havnt heard a 12in version of them,and with the JBL'S im saying goodbye to my back seat but thats probably the case with most enclosures required for these things.
Another on im hanging to hear is the JL W6V2 as there here in a month and they run in a lot smaller enclosure.
So many options!!!
How do you find it as i havnt heard a 12in version of them,and with the JBL'S im saying goodbye to my back seat but thats probably the case with most enclosures required for these things.
Another on im hanging to hear is the JL W6V2 as there here in a month and they run in a lot smaller enclosure.
So many options!!!
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Originally posted by Slaz:
Budget left is around the 2500-3 mark so keep it real.Thanks all!!!!!!!!!!
nice budget. does it need to include installation cost?
let's see, i'd probably divi up the budget something like:
*front splits: $900~1400 2 or 3-way: dynaudio, morel, focal, boston pro, mb quart, dls, etc
*rears: matching brand/series 2-way coax's if possible to maintain similar tonal quality: $200~300, drop-in replacements
*12" subs: $1000~1500: kicker square S12L7, xtant hex, eclipse titanium, PG, focal, dls, etc
is it right the JL monoblocs have a strictly regulated powersupply and the outputs are capped regardless of load/impedence? suppose it would then make sense to run at a relatively high impedence (eg: 4ohm) to reduce current demand and maintain stability/efficiency.
and the power output of the monobloc? 1x500WRMS i'm guessing. if so, even consider a single premium 12" sub rather than dividing this power between 2 subs (which then only receive 'ok' power on tap). i'm not sure what size car you have.
audison 4-channels? LRx4.300 i think (guessing here) $900~1200. VRx4.300 $1800~2400 for series 1 (new series 2 much more). that sort of ballpark (?).
hope this helps.
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Thanks for your view shiny car.
Its all going in a civic 3 door so not much of a cabin, but i thought that 2 12's would sound better then the 1.
Ive actually never heard 3 ways in a car before, ive only ever run 2 ways so cant appreciate the difference, are they that much better?
Its all going in a civic 3 door so not much of a cabin, but i thought that 2 12's would sound better then the 1.
Ive actually never heard 3 ways in a car before, ive only ever run 2 ways so cant appreciate the difference, are they that much better?
if you're primarily after SQ, then a single 12" subbie will be perfect. setup properly (ie: box design, direction sub faces, etc) it will offer all the smooth subbass response you need without creating a 'bass-heavy' system. i suspect if you run 2 subs, and tune it properly, you'll be setting the sub levels low.
critter's car i believe is testamont to a single-sub hatchback SQ system.
having said that, people like johnA run a dual 12" setup in a hatch too. although, i think he's 'turned down' his sub levels to optimise SQ.
but with 500WRMS to play with, i'd personally choose a single premium sub.
3-way splits can definitely sound better, offering superior midrange as you'd hope. however, the installation is the killer. it can be tricky and usually necessitates custom work = $$. however, setup optimally, and you'll have awesome SQ. do it poorly, and you'll wonder why you bothered.
however, if you're on a budget, i'd prefer a premium 2-way setup, installed 'perfectly' rather than a cheaper quality 3-way system that takes more effort to install.
another issue is that you'll have 75WRMS per channel. probably insufficient to drive an audiophile set of 3-way splits optimally, so 2-way would be a better option for this reason. you could of course consider running semi-active, driving the front stage entirely off these 4-channel amp: midwoofer off ch.3/4 and midrange-tweet of ch.1/2 using a passive xover. then you'll have to consider another option to run rearfill, including off the HU.
for best value top SQ, i'd recommend audiophile 2-way splits and a premium 12" sub; and indeed you can have superb results with this route. beyond that, it's up to you.
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critter's car i believe is testamont to a single-sub hatchback SQ system.
having said that, people like johnA run a dual 12" setup in a hatch too. although, i think he's 'turned down' his sub levels to optimise SQ.
but with 500WRMS to play with, i'd personally choose a single premium sub.
3-way splits can definitely sound better, offering superior midrange as you'd hope. however, the installation is the killer. it can be tricky and usually necessitates custom work = $$. however, setup optimally, and you'll have awesome SQ. do it poorly, and you'll wonder why you bothered.
however, if you're on a budget, i'd prefer a premium 2-way setup, installed 'perfectly' rather than a cheaper quality 3-way system that takes more effort to install.
another issue is that you'll have 75WRMS per channel. probably insufficient to drive an audiophile set of 3-way splits optimally, so 2-way would be a better option for this reason. you could of course consider running semi-active, driving the front stage entirely off these 4-channel amp: midwoofer off ch.3/4 and midrange-tweet of ch.1/2 using a passive xover. then you'll have to consider another option to run rearfill, including off the HU.
for best value top SQ, i'd recommend audiophile 2-way splits and a premium 12" sub; and indeed you can have superb results with this route. beyond that, it's up to you.
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Shiny, thanks for your time im appreciating it!!!
Does Critter run the kicker off the 1 JL or 2 JL'S?
Ive emailed Phil from RM Audio and picking his brain about the Audison/Hertz combo, have you had a chance to listen to a set of hertz speakers, and if so your thoughts?
Apparently the Morels are drying up in stocks as a new range is to be released early next year.
Do you know much about running spaekers active through the amp and its advantages??
I'm left clueless on this subject
Does Critter run the kicker off the 1 JL or 2 JL'S?
Ive emailed Phil from RM Audio and picking his brain about the Audison/Hertz combo, have you had a chance to listen to a set of hertz speakers, and if so your thoughts?
Apparently the Morels are drying up in stocks as a new range is to be released early next year.
Do you know much about running spaekers active through the amp and its advantages??
I'm left clueless on this subject
Running speakers active will just give you more control over the crossover points that you can set for the speakers (assuming the amp has variable xovers).
Some people swear that active also improves SQ, but i am yet to test that for myself.
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Some people swear that active also improves SQ, but i am yet to test that for myself.
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active is not necessarily better, but it can be.
active, as poida mentioned, allows tunability (presuming your active xovers have the appropriate range of freq settings), gain setting for individual speakers, and avoids some phase issues created by passive xovers (although that should be compensated by their design). however, depending on the quality of the passive xover, there may be no benefit with active in terms of SQ; dynaudio recommend sticking with their passive xovers with their splits simply coz they believe they're as good as you can get, perfectly matched for the speakers.
active can be expensive, consuming one channel per speaker, and sometimes necessitating buying a separate outboard active xover plus all its attendant wiring.
if you mix and match speakers for your splits, then active would be the best bet. and if the passive xovers are cheap quality, then also consider active.
hertz make some great speakers. their hi-energy HSK splits are excellent value. i'm not sure what they offer above these though. phil is the man to get advice from though, he knows his products and what works for them. i believe he's setup several active front stages using hertz speakers with good results. including his own, which run hertz midwoofer/midrange, and morel tweets (until he corrected me, i thought he ran a totally morel front stage).
fudbutter (formerly rhuben) has hertz midwoofers in his gf's car, matched with mtx tweets, and the SQ is awesome for their cost. seriously good, running off a hertz amp.
whilst the HSK splits are great, there are better splits out there for sure.
if you audition dynaudio's and the like, and they're in your budget, i doubt you'll want anything less. and with the dyn's, you might as well run them passively with their xovers and keep the spare amp channels for your rears.
critter runs the S12L7 off the one JL 500/1.
whatever the case, i think with your JL amps and proposed setup, it allows you to expand later without losing out. so you could set it up as a simple system (albeit top quality components) to begin with, then if you're not happy, build on it. say, add a separate 3rd amp for rearfill duties, then run the 300/4 amp for an active front stage. even add a midrange for a 3-way setup. lots of possibilities.
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active, as poida mentioned, allows tunability (presuming your active xovers have the appropriate range of freq settings), gain setting for individual speakers, and avoids some phase issues created by passive xovers (although that should be compensated by their design). however, depending on the quality of the passive xover, there may be no benefit with active in terms of SQ; dynaudio recommend sticking with their passive xovers with their splits simply coz they believe they're as good as you can get, perfectly matched for the speakers.
active can be expensive, consuming one channel per speaker, and sometimes necessitating buying a separate outboard active xover plus all its attendant wiring.
if you mix and match speakers for your splits, then active would be the best bet. and if the passive xovers are cheap quality, then also consider active.
hertz make some great speakers. their hi-energy HSK splits are excellent value. i'm not sure what they offer above these though. phil is the man to get advice from though, he knows his products and what works for them. i believe he's setup several active front stages using hertz speakers with good results. including his own, which run hertz midwoofer/midrange, and morel tweets (until he corrected me, i thought he ran a totally morel front stage
).fudbutter (formerly rhuben) has hertz midwoofers in his gf's car, matched with mtx tweets, and the SQ is awesome for their cost. seriously good, running off a hertz amp.
whilst the HSK splits are great, there are better splits out there for sure.
if you audition dynaudio's and the like, and they're in your budget, i doubt you'll want anything less. and with the dyn's, you might as well run them passively with their xovers and keep the spare amp channels for your rears.
critter runs the S12L7 off the one JL 500/1.
whatever the case, i think with your JL amps and proposed setup, it allows you to expand later without losing out. so you could set it up as a simple system (albeit top quality components) to begin with, then if you're not happy, build on it. say, add a separate 3rd amp for rearfill duties, then run the 300/4 amp for an active front stage. even add a midrange for a 3-way setup. lots of possibilities.
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The coming Tour by God on the 7th will be an IDEAL time to check some systems/front stages/sub set-ups, including Marc's own.
Would be a great time to say hello too
There will be a new post in the Events forum before the week is out with details.
Yep, I run the S12L72 off the one JL500/1 which is strictly regulated and a 4 ohm set-up makes most sense with these.
As for the comparison with JL and a VRx for front stage duties, can't comment. The VRx has the "seduction factor" in spades which defies explanation....
And yes, for SQ a single premium 12 is my preference, it allows more optimisation elsewhere that will make a bigger difference IMO for a given budget. You are welcome to listen to mine anytime.
Twin 12s does have its attractions however.
Active fronts? Good idea, somewhat more complicated, value-for-money improvements? Personally, I think better value in a hi-class passive set-up.
Hope that helps.
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
Would be a great time to say hello too
There will be a new post in the Events forum before the week is out with details.
Yep, I run the S12L72 off the one JL500/1 which is strictly regulated and a 4 ohm set-up makes most sense with these.
As for the comparison with JL and a VRx for front stage duties, can't comment. The VRx has the "seduction factor" in spades which defies explanation....
And yes, for SQ a single premium 12 is my preference, it allows more optimisation elsewhere that will make a bigger difference IMO for a given budget. You are welcome to listen to mine anytime.
Twin 12s does have its attractions however.
Active fronts? Good idea, somewhat more complicated, value-for-money improvements? Personally, I think better value in a hi-class passive set-up.
Hope that helps.
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
Shiny,Critter thanks for your advice you've both given me some direction.
I will try and get to the do on the 7th aswell, think this will give me a chance to see what i like in a system, and meet a few of you.
Till then keep up the good work i notice you 2 reply and advise alot,you've got my respect.
I will try and get to the do on the 7th aswell, think this will give me a chance to see what i like in a system, and meet a few of you.
Till then keep up the good work i notice you 2 reply and advise alot,you've got my respect.
Hehe, we do what we can.....no wukkers, buddy.
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
just my 2c, but active does NOT sound better than passive. it simply allows crossover points and gains to be adjusted more easily than a passive setup. this can be a good thing, but it can also be disasterous in the hands of someone who doesn't tune it right, or who simply doesn't bother tuning it at all. passive networks, on the other hand, are setup by factory sound engineers are usually spot-on, and can be the best bet for those who want a simple and reliable setup.
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Source: Clarion DRX-9675z - Front Stage: Boston Acoustics Pro 6.5's - Centre Channel: Boston Acoustics FS50 Midrange - Ambient Satellites: Boston Acoustics 3/4" Kortec Tweeters - Processors: Audiocontrol EQT's - Subwoofers: Earthquake BR12's - Amplifiers: Kicker IX404's - Power: Stinger 1 Farad HPM Capacitor
Sounding sweet and taking it to the street
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I see your view T-Bro and i think ill probably head down the passive road as im no freak when it comes to this stuff.
Say Critter how much did you pay for your L7? And seeing there 750wrms what do you think 1 with 2 JL 500-1's running it would behave like?
Say Critter how much did you pay for your L7? And seeing there 750wrms what do you think 1 with 2 JL 500-1's running it would behave like?
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Originally posted by Slaz:
And seeing there 750wrms what do you think 1 with 2 JL 500-1's running it would behave like?
hee,hee, you trying to kill yourself?
nah, but i suspect that a single JL 500/1 is perfectly adequate for an L7, especially for SQ. surely it will go loud enough for you (i'm sure critter can clarify).
remember that a JL monobloc has been designed as a quality subamp from the ground up, so is no 2-channel boasting big numbers it can't really produce into a sub. the JL will should offer a genuine 500WRMS on tap, which is plenty to make your ears bleed. adding a second one is only asking for more expense, more power consumption, more space, etc. when in reality, at normal listening volumes, you'd probably only utilise 250WRMS.
good luck
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Things can get quite stupid with the single 500/1 into a well-ported S12L72
Might be showing my age, but (probably) close to 140dB at about 35hz is enough for me.....
Another amp will only give you 3dB anyway, (there is a 1000/1 now) and the JL monoblocks are STRONG and TIGHT.
JL themselves suggest ONE of these for 2 W3s...
Oh, and it was $450, a bargain IMO. 2001 dual 2s are all gone now tho' I think, there's some dual 4s left at Doran's but these are sealed-only for SQ IMO, very different drivers.
Much as I love my L7, there's a heap of good subs out there, including the JBLs you were talking about.
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
Might be showing my age, but (probably) close to 140dB at about 35hz is enough for me.....
Another amp will only give you 3dB anyway, (there is a 1000/1 now) and the JL monoblocks are STRONG and TIGHT.
JL themselves suggest ONE of these for 2 W3s...
Oh, and it was $450, a bargain IMO. 2001 dual 2s are all gone now tho' I think, there's some dual 4s left at Doran's but these are sealed-only for SQ IMO, very different drivers.
Much as I love my L7, there's a heap of good subs out there, including the JBLs you were talking about.
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
Spewing thats who i was planning to hit up for a price.So no more dual 2's you say?
Correct me if im wrong but the enclosure for the kickers is alot smaller then say a 5CU/FT sealed for the GTI'S?
Well ive got 2 500-1's is there another sub you can suggest that will cop that bit more power and say have a little more spl but remain quality throughout the range?
Speaking to Phil from RM audio about the Morels and the Hertz speakers,he's said that the Morels are for more musical type listening and the Hertz more forgiving for dance type music, whats your thoughts on that? A suggested package was Dotech 6's running off a LRx 4.300 active and Integra 6's running off a LRx 2.150 or HSK-163 front and HSK-165 or Integra's rear. I dont see where the type of music becomes an issue, or is it more the volume its listened to?
Correct me if im wrong but the enclosure for the kickers is alot smaller then say a 5CU/FT sealed for the GTI'S?
Well ive got 2 500-1's is there another sub you can suggest that will cop that bit more power and say have a little more spl but remain quality throughout the range?
Speaking to Phil from RM audio about the Morels and the Hertz speakers,he's said that the Morels are for more musical type listening and the Hertz more forgiving for dance type music, whats your thoughts on that? A suggested package was Dotech 6's running off a LRx 4.300 active and Integra 6's running off a LRx 2.150 or HSK-163 front and HSK-165 or Integra's rear. I dont see where the type of music becomes an issue, or is it more the volume its listened to?
This might sound dumb but what tha is IMO?
In My Opinion.
Also see IMHO, In My Humble Opinion.
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Ears:Pioneer TS-C1620 Splits in custom pods
Booty :Image Dynamics IDQ12-D4 v.2, powered by "the-amp-whose-name-I-shall-not-mention".
Veins:Jaycar, Jaycar, Jaycar.
Still to come: A nice 2 or 4 channel front stage and a gruntmaster sub-amp.
"loud bass has been proven to instruct particular glands to release certain chemicals within our body. including serotonin and adrenaline etc.
so basically we're all getting high on bass"
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Ears:Pioneer TS-C1620 Splits in custom pods
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Veins:Jaycar, Jaycar, Jaycar.
Still to come: A nice 2 or 4 channel front stage and a gruntmaster sub-amp.
so basically we're all getting high on bass"
quote:
Originally posted by Slaz:
Well ive got 2 500-1's
hee,hee, oh yeah, i forgot you already had two. greedy bugger.
and that of course changes my whole perspective on the matter. suffice to say my original advice revolved around just the single 500/1. in which case, by all means go for 2 subbies!
quoteQUOTEis there another sub you can suggest that will cop that bit more power and say have a little more spl but remain quality throughout the range?
i still think a single L7 run by 2 500/1s is a bit much for typical SQ use. however, there is that benefit of added 'headroom', whereby the amps will be merely cruising along and have plenty in reserve come a big subbass hit.
other nice subs would include:
*eclipse 88120Ti DVC
*xtant hexagonal
*hertz air mille
*JL W6
*orion HCCA
*image dynamics IDMAX
quoteQUOTESpeaking to Phil from RM audio about the Morels and the Hertz speakers,he's said that the Morels are for more musical type listening and the Hertz more forgiving for dance type music, whats your thoughts on that?
he's probably suggesting the hertz are more lively and 'in ya face'. which most people find more exciting and appealing.
morel's most likely sound 'revealing' and flat by comparison, but prefered for SQ, and in their own right, sweet-as.
quoteQUOTEA suggested package was Dotech 6's running off a LRx 4.300 active and Integra 6's running off a LRx 2.150 or HSK-163 front and HSK-165 or Integra's rear. I dont see where the type of music becomes an issue, or is it more the volume its listened to?
i'm sure they will both sound 'different'.
LRx2.150 for rearfill? ouch, that may be overkill in most people's minds.
phil has had experience running these speakers 'actively', so that's fair. and if your funds permit, fine. if you have the inclination to install 3-ways, cool. personally, i imagine i'd prefer the morel's.
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Yeah i got the 500's for a good price and was thinking all along for 2 12's but the idea of 1 12 having enough power in reserve to go hard appeals.
Well the Morel option actually works out the cheaper option but what kinda music are you all listening with these systems? Opera?
I like all music from dance to rock to soft stuff so am i miising out on something choosing the morels over the Hertz's or what?
And the Dotechs compared to the Hybrid's, similar to say rallys and pro's or not that extreme in quality difference?
I have a budget and im sticking to it, 1 sub leaves room for more!
Well the Morel option actually works out the cheaper option but what kinda music are you all listening with these systems? Opera?
I like all music from dance to rock to soft stuff so am i miising out on something choosing the morels over the Hertz's or what?
And the Dotechs compared to the Hybrid's, similar to say rallys and pro's or not that extreme in quality difference?
I have a budget and im sticking to it, 1 sub leaves room for more!
nah, i think you'll find the morel's suit all genres of music, but sound a little 'flatter' in response, in better audiophile sense.
i have not known a morel user/purshaser that has not been happy, and all the systems i've heard using them have been excellent. so if it sounds poor, it's not the speakers!
i don't know enough about morel to accurately compare them with the bostons, but i gather that's a fair parallel. the build quality and design of the hybrids looks awesome, along the lines of dynaudio.
in all seriousness, if you're after SQ and a damn sweet musical system, it's very hard to overlook morel. (likewise dynaudio)
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i have not known a morel user/purshaser that has not been happy, and all the systems i've heard using them have been excellent. so if it sounds poor, it's not the speakers!
i don't know enough about morel to accurately compare them with the bostons, but i gather that's a fair parallel. the build quality and design of the hybrids looks awesome, along the lines of dynaudio.
in all seriousness, if you're after SQ and a damn sweet musical system, it's very hard to overlook morel. (likewise dynaudio
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Sounds like all sound advice, once again thanks. Not sure about the Dynaudios but you see what i mean about the difference in ranges of speakers, therefore would you bother with the dotechs seeing the hybrids arnt available, but at the price they are its a good buy.
Shame i wasnt sure about what i wanted when the caa store had good stocks.
Shame i wasnt sure about what i wanted when the caa store had good stocks.
hee,hee, see what phil can do for you if you haven't already. :P
but i think the hybrids are the way to go if you can afford them.
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but i think the hybrids are the way to go if you can afford them.
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Yeah i have, theres only 1 pair of dotechs and integras left. The hybrids are all gone and the new model is out early next year so nothing till then.
As for amps the Audison's are nil stock also but new batch in 2 weeks so that isnt a worry.
I must admit the specs for the Dotechs are pritty good considering the sale price.
Im thinking of getting the dotechs at the price they are and should i not be happy trade up later say when the new model is realeased or something.
Need a stereo, havnt had one 4 about 4 months since i pulled the last one apart, just trying not to let my impatience get in the way.
As for amps the Audison's are nil stock also but new batch in 2 weeks so that isnt a worry.
I must admit the specs for the Dotechs are pritty good considering the sale price.
Im thinking of getting the dotechs at the price they are and should i not be happy trade up later say when the new model is realeased or something.
Need a stereo, havnt had one 4 about 4 months since i pulled the last one apart, just trying not to let my impatience get in the way.
ah...4 months.....pfffft.
i haven't had subbass for 16 months.
only just replaced the stock HU today...and disconnected the stock front stage.
hmmm, sorry, it's been a saga as some Members know.
um, didn't realise the 'stock' situation for the morel's, so i see your dilemma.
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[Edited 1 time by shiny_car on 29 August 2002 at 12:59]
i haven't had subbass for 16 months.
only just replaced the stock HU today...and disconnected the stock front stage.
hmmm, sorry, it's been a saga as some Members know.
um, didn't realise the 'stock' situation for the morel's, so i see your dilemma.
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I can offer some personal experience that might help regarding the speakers:
I play a wide variety of music including hardcore/dance thru' cruisy to some metal and even jazz/groove stuff (NO opera). The Morels are a peach coz they "do it all", no particular colouration that sees them favour anything as it were.
Compared to the Boston Rallye's I had before they are much smoother, the Bostons are in your face but very clean by comparison.
Phil will be a good guide I think, tho' IMO (you got that now ) the rear fill is a bit over the top as I don't use any at all.
If you have the twin 500/1s (yes, greedy ), then by all means go with twin subs, I reckon 2 500/1s is more than what is useful on a single driver. If you go the L7 way then they would be purrrrfect for S12L74s (dual 4s) in sealed boxes of say 42 litres nett each and you would have some boot left.
I know Tony Doran favours that size box for the L74s and he has plenty of experience with them, plenty. Would be very nice.
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
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I play a wide variety of music including hardcore/dance thru' cruisy to some metal and even jazz/groove stuff (NO opera). The Morels are a peach coz they "do it all", no particular colouration that sees them favour anything as it were.
Compared to the Boston Rallye's I had before they are much smoother, the Bostons are in your face but very clean by comparison.
Phil will be a good guide I think, tho' IMO (you got that now
) the rear fill is a bit over the top as I don't use any at all.If you have the twin 500/1s (yes, greedy
), then by all means go with twin subs, I reckon 2 500/1s is more than what is useful on a single driver. If you go the L7 way then they would be purrrrfect for S12L74s (dual 4s) in sealed boxes of say 42 litres nett each and you would have some boot left.I know Tony Doran favours that size box for the L74s and he has plenty of experience with them, plenty. Would be very nice.
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
Once again thanks boys, shiny at least you've had some noise, but ive found none a killer.
But when i refered to the rallys i wasnt trying to compare them more get an idea on the quality difference between the dotech and the hybrid.
As for the subs critter thanks,ill check it out, just trying to have that little bit extra ( greedy i know) and save my back seats.
But when i refered to the rallys i wasnt trying to compare them more get an idea on the quality difference between the dotech and the hybrid.
As for the subs critter thanks,ill check it out, just trying to have that little bit extra ( greedy i know) and save my back seats.
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Originally posted by Slaz:
shiny at least you've had some noise, but ive found none a killer.
yeah, that's kinda painful.quoteQUOTEBut when i refered to the rallys i wasnt trying to compare them more get an idea on the quality difference between the dotech and the hybrid.
cool. i suspect the dotechs are somewhat nicer than the rally's, although i haven't done a back-to-back comparo. and the hybrids will hold their own against most of the competition.
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Hey Critter, where did you end up getting your kicker from or will you have to kill me if you tell me?
Well the place in question is out of business now, was MLC in Penrith, they had the last S12L72s.
Another (un-named) CAA member took all they had (you are not the only greedy one....).
I will speak to him and ask if he wants to let a couple go (don't hold your breath).
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
Another (un-named
) CAA member took all they had (you are not the only greedy one....).I will speak to him and ask if he wants to let a couple go (don't hold your breath).
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
When you say took all, how many you talking about?
Hope i dont come across as some loaded toss who wants to out do everyone as i can asure you i dont, i bought the 2 amps as they were a good price and i planned on running the 2 gt's or a premium single.
If you wouldnt mind asking id appreciate it. Thanks Critter!
Hope i dont come across as some loaded toss who wants to out do everyone as i can asure you i dont, i bought the 2 amps as they were a good price and i planned on running the 2 gt's or a premium single.
If you wouldnt mind asking id appreciate it.
Thanks Critter!
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Originally posted by Slaz:
Hope i dont come across as some loaded toss
don't worry, you don't.i admire anyone who has enthusiasm and is on a quest for a quality stereo. i don't care how or why the buy stuff, nor what quality it is (as long as it's legit).
if you want overkill, well, i'll show you when i'm finished.
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Go for it Slaz, complete nutters fit right in here *looks in mirror* says "look at that one right there..."
We have most of the nation's committee members for The Sick Puppies Club, so you'll fit in a treat
Might be able to do something about those L7s, depends on how patient you are while their current owner "thinks about it" (I've had a word).
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
*looks in mirror* says "look at that one right there..."We have most of the nation's committee members for The Sick Puppies Club, so you'll fit in a treat
Might be able to do something about those L7s, depends on how patient you are while their current owner "thinks about it" (I've had a word).
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
Thanks for that critter, i look at these things like one big snowball that doesnt end, im sure you understand.Dont even want to add up all the engine parts ive bought for the thing!
If you could let me know how you go with the owner of the L7s,thats the best news ive had all day.
I arranged to buy some Morels today only to find out Phil got the stock levels wrong, but didnt realise until he went to look for them. NOT HAPPY JAN
But i guess it happens im sure he'll do his best to sort me out, if not back to the drawing board......
Dont even want to add up all the engine parts ive bought for the thing!If you could let me know how you go with the owner of the L7s,thats the best news ive had all day.
I arranged to buy some Morels today only to find out Phil got the stock levels wrong, but didnt realise until he went to look for them. NOT HAPPY JAN
But i guess it happens im sure he'll do his best to sort me out, if not back to the drawing board......
Critter, was at Tonys today and what happens to be there, 2002 model 12L7's dual 2 ohm. Hes got about 12 of them and wants 550 ea for them.There 750wrms were as apparently the old model (black face were 600) true or false? 550 ea sure beats the heck out of 900 ea for the GTI's,such a big price difference considering people place them against one another in SQ. Suggested enclosure was 3 cu/ft per sub sealed,your thoughts seeing you've gone the ported box?
Sorry shiny i missed your post earlier, thanks for the support and yes i agree with legit buying,what goes around comes around and it should with interest to pricks that damage or steal.
So what are you jamming in that car of yours??
Hey Critter gone missing champ,im thirsty for your knowledge on these kickers, think they'll help me decide what im after, the small enclosure size is appealing to me due to the size of my beast, but the JL W6V2's look rather sexy also, shame no-one's heard them.
So what are you jamming in that car of yours??
Hey Critter gone missing champ,im thirsty for your knowledge on these kickers, think they'll help me decide what im after, the small enclosure size is appealing to me due to the size of my beast, but the JL W6V2's look rather sexy also, shame no-one's heard them.
quote:
Originally posted by Slaz:
Sorry shiny i missed your post earlier,
So what are you jamming in that car of yours??
hey, no probs.
jamming, yes. alpine source/processor with alpine amps for now. 3 audison VRx's (6.420/2.150/1.500) ready to go in sometime in the future when everything else is completed; may actually now run alpine amps for autosalon FB and change over for the audisons 'for something different' afterwards. current progress detailed in 'Your Systems' forum.
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Whats doing Critter? Any chance of your view on the Kickers??
Hey shiny what made you decide to spend up big on the Audison's?
Quality,something different,join the caa trend,bargin buy at the time??
Whats going through that mind of yours to pull that system you've just finished apart and start again?
(Madman.)
Whats doing with Critter? Been waiting for some advive as i havnt run into to many other people that have run square kickers, could be the next subject.
Well ill be looking for the Alfa come FB,take it easy.
Quality,something different,join the caa trend,bargin buy at the time??
Whats going through that mind of yours to pull that system you've just finished apart and start again?
(Madman.)Whats doing with Critter? Been waiting for some advive as i havnt run into to many other people that have run square kickers, could be the next subject.
Well ill be looking for the Alfa come FB,take it easy.
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Originally posted by Slaz:
Hey shiny what made you decide to spend up big on the Audison's?
essentially...bargain buys. my current alpine's are probably the weakest link in the system. so upgrading was always on the cards, although originally not so soon.
but hey, can't pass on a good price...and it kinda got out of hand from there!
it won't be too difficult to redo my amp rack. not for 2 VRx, but to slot the 6.420 in it will take some reshuffling. so probably needs to wait until after FB.
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Slaz. At the risk of sounding biased, I would wholeheartedly recommend the speaker that you think sounds the best to youe ears. Afterall, you will be the one stuck in the car listening to them for the next few years. If I could be so bold as to make one suggestion however, when you audition speakers, I would suggest taking a CD you are familiar with, and listening to it at the volume level you like, soft, medium or LOUD, and listen for more than 10 seconds. Try listening for 4 or 5 minutes. (Most trips I take in my car last considerably longer than 10 seconds, the average length of a car audio store demo). This will tell you much more about the speakers sound quality, colouration and 'ease of listening' ie not fatigueing, than a quick demo board blast. If the store is reluctant to let you do this, please leave that store and drive to the next store, their are quite a few to choose from these days!!
Steve Hutchison
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Hutch
Steve Hutchison
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Hutch
Hehe, Slaz, I haven't forgotten you buddy
The 2002 model L7s are a fair bit different to the 2001s. I'll have a look into how they load in enclosures and give you my thoughts, such as they are....
As for "rated power handling" I believe both series of S12L7s are rated 750 rms (1500 max), but of course this is not a huge issue in an SQ forum......
Hutch, your point is well made, but it is sooooo difficult to arrange a proper in-car demo, sub enclosure and all, and this is the only way really that matters.
I have done quite a few static "quick in-car demos" and that is frustrating too.
The only real way to get a good idea of what something is like is to hop in and go for a drive, play some different stuff......this being mobile audio and all.
There are just so many variables in a "bass system" that knowing where you are going to get the result you are looking for is very tough.
As happy as I am with how it ended up in my car, it's not exactly what I expected, despite having researched it to distraction.
Home audio is so much easier in that respect....
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
The 2002 model L7s are a fair bit different to the 2001s. I'll have a look into how they load in enclosures and give you my thoughts, such as they are....
As for "rated power handling" I believe both series of S12L7s are rated 750 rms (1500 max), but of course this is not a huge issue in an SQ forum......
Hutch, your point is well made, but it is sooooo difficult to arrange a proper in-car demo, sub enclosure and all, and this is the only way really that matters.
I have done quite a few static "quick in-car demos" and that is frustrating too.
The only real way to get a good idea of what something is like is to hop in and go for a drive, play some different stuff......this being mobile audio and all.
There are just so many variables in a "bass system" that knowing where you are going to get the result you are looking for is very tough.
As happy as I am with how it ended up in my car, it's not exactly what I expected, despite having researched it to distraction.
Home audio is so much easier in that respect....
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
After talking to myself for days your all back.
I gathered they were bargin buys shiny as i remember when they were pushing them a while ago, thats when i should have had a look at buying some.
Critter if you could sus them out in comparison that would be great and i agree with your reply to hutch, harder then it sounds finding cars with high end products in them and stores dont even demo alot of good products.
I'm hoping to get out of work on saturday so i can make it to the meet in Sydney, might hear something i like there.
I gathered they were bargin buys shiny as i remember when they were pushing them a while ago, thats when i should have had a look at buying some.
Critter if you could sus them out in comparison that would be great and i agree with your reply to hutch, harder then it sounds finding cars with high end products in them and stores dont even demo alot of good products.
I'm hoping to get out of work on saturday so i can make it to the meet in Sydney, might hear something i like there.
Slaz...
Just might as well throw in my two cents...
Though I have a lowly LRx2.250 I can vouch to you that this is one hell of an amp... clean with heaps of power, and gives so much more 'space' for music with lots of instruments and strong vocals.
You can't go wrong with Phil's advice and those of others on this site (special thanks to Shiny and Critter for their help to me).
As for Morels... yeah stocks are really low, but you really can't go wrong with them.
Good luck
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HU: Sony MDX-CA680X
Fronts: Morel Dotech 6 splits
Front Power: Audison LRx2.250
Rears: Pioneer 6945 6x9s (Acting as subs! :) )
Rear Power : Sony XM-255EX (Low pass from LRx)
Just might as well throw in my two cents...
Though I have a lowly LRx2.250 I can vouch to you that this is one hell of an amp... clean with heaps of power, and gives so much more 'space' for music with lots of instruments and strong vocals.
You can't go wrong with Phil's advice and those of others on this site (special thanks to Shiny and Critter for their help to me).
As for Morels... yeah stocks are really low, but you really can't go wrong with them.
Good luck
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HU: Sony MDX-CA680X
Fronts: Morel Dotech 6 splits
Front Power: Audison LRx2.250
Rears: Pioneer 6945 6x9s (Acting as subs! :) )
Rear Power : Sony XM-255EX (Low pass from LRx)
Jet, thanks for your view champ, yeah i can see myself travelling down the LRx road, cant see myself paying the extra for the series 2 VRx's.( Would be nice though.)
I know im in good hands also with Critter and Shiny they both deserve "Much Respect"
RM Phil is also trying to sort me out though he's left me hanging as he's at Brisbane autosalon this week so im waiting to hear from him and what his found.
Say Jet have you heard Hybrids compared to your Dotechs and if so what did you think?
I know im in good hands also with Critter and Shiny they both deserve "Much Respect"
RM Phil is also trying to sort me out though he's left me hanging as he's at Brisbane autosalon this week so im waiting to hear from him and what his found.
Say Jet have you heard Hybrids compared to your Dotechs and if so what did you think?
Slaz, having had a look at the 2002 L7s, my conclusion is to use them sealed but 3 cu ft is too big IMO (Vas is nominally 68.76 litres.....)
I'd prob go about 50 litres each. The amount of urge you want down low will determine things to a degree.
Have a listen to my low-tuned ported one on Sat if you can to get an idea on what Low is like
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
I'd prob go about 50 litres each. The amount of urge you want down low will determine things to a degree.
Have a listen to my low-tuned ported one on Sat if you can to get an idea on what Low is like
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
Thanks for having a look at that Critter, cant see myself getting there sat at the moment but you never know.
If not ill try to make it Doran on sat arvo, seems to be the other gathering on the day.
Say had trouble trying to donate the other night, whats doing?
If not ill try to make it Doran on sat arvo, seems to be the other gathering on the day.
Say had trouble trying to donate the other night, whats doing?
Donation.....dunno, I'm not privvy to such things and how they work. I'll ask BassteQ.
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
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