What makes your system a SQ system :D
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Best 158.4db from 2x DD9515's on TERMPRO (SAS 2002)
the idea you had in mind when installing/selecting components.
what makes an SPL system an SPL system?
the perspective with which you selected components and carried out your install
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'96 Mirage, currently resembling a tin can
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what makes an SPL system an SPL system?
the perspective with which you selected components and carried out your install
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A system that sounds good... ie - has good sound quality... simple 
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1st Place, Drag Combat 2002, 1 Woofer class
To be a pure "instrument tested" sq system, the RTA MUST read as flat as possible, in listening tests the Accuracy of staging, imaging, etc, is tested, they play reference tracks and most of the judges close their eyes to try and locate each individual instrument and when listening to an SQ System, you shouldn't be able to "locate" where the speakers are by listening to them, this is known as "transparency" and you should be able to locate approx. where each band member is standing, and what instrument they are playing. The trick with SQ, is to incorporate all these into one, however, it is quite difficult due to the comprimises made in the car environment... Trying to make a loud note at say, 50hz, is spl, trying to make a note sound just as loud at 30hz as it is at 15khz, thats sq.......
Aaron
P.S. if it doesn't make sense, my excuse is "it's late"
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quote:
Originally posted by Bodyjar:
A system that sounds good... ie - has good sound quality... simple
can u make that a little more simple for me?? hehe
well me and alot of others idea of SQ is when u are sitting there in the front of your car, you close you eyes and there is the singer in front of you, the band is sitting there too, every little detail of sound is coming out of the speakers, and all of the sound you cant here is there too
(which is another debatable thing, but i belive it makes the difference)
everything sounds just perfect (and i dont belive i need a judge at a comp saying it isent, but i wanna win trophys)
it is something you can listen to for hours on end and not get tired from it,
something that makes you wanna get out your fav CD and go for a drive to nowhere just so u can listen to it,
it's just good!
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just for the record, a flat reading on an RTA sounds terrible, and 'transparency' is generally used to describe the ability of a system to pass on the original performance to your ears without adding any colouration itself (ie, if a system is 'transparent', it means you only hear the original performance, not the speakers or amp etc) 
the phenomenon where you can't hear the location of the speakers, ie where the sound stage floats on the dash in isolation of the speakers, is usually described as 'the speakers are not easily localised'. ie, transparency and localisation are not one and the same
well at least that's how i was taught
/pedantic mode OFF
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Custom SQ System
Dolby Prologic II in 3.1
Source: Clarion DXZ-925 w/ DPL2 Decoder - Front Stage: Boston Acoustics Pro 6.5's - Centre Channel: Boston Acoustics Pro 5.5LF - Ambient Satellites: Boston Acoustics 3/4" Kortec Tweeters - Processors: Audiocontrol EQT's - Subwoofers: Earthquake BR12's - Amplifiers: Kicker IX404's - Power: Stinger 1 Farad HPM Capacitor
Sounding sweet and taking it to the street
the phenomenon where you can't hear the location of the speakers, ie where the sound stage floats on the dash in isolation of the speakers, is usually described as 'the speakers are not easily localised'. ie, transparency and localisation are not one and the same well at least that's how i was taught
/pedantic mode OFF
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Dolby Prologic II in 3.1
*throws oar in*
Whether it is SQ or SPL you are chasing, the very best/loudest/whatever takes time, money expertise, experience, experimentation and a lot of hard work and head-scatching.
IMO there is no "this is harder" coz it's all hard at the limits of the envelope of performance, whether you are finding the last couple of dB or fine-tuning the image. If any of it was easy, anybody could do it and where would the pleasure of achievement be?
Satisfaction is all in the perception of the beholder/perpetrator.
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HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
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Whether it is SQ or SPL you are chasing, the very best/loudest/whatever takes time, money expertise, experience, experimentation and a lot of hard work and head-scatching.
IMO there is no "this is harder" coz it's all hard at the limits of the envelope of performance, whether you are finding the last couple of dB or fine-tuning the image. If any of it was easy, anybody could do it and where would the pleasure of achievement be?
Satisfaction is all in the perception of the beholder/perpetrator.
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
Want to find out if your system qualifies as SQ?
Play some good classical music and see if the strings sound like strings.
If there is a killer bass track coming through while playing Mozart then your system needs a little more refinement and tuning!
Phil
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[Edited 1 time by RM Audio on 01 October 2002 at 15:46]
Play some good classical music and see if the strings sound like strings.
If there is a killer bass track coming through while playing Mozart then your system needs a little more refinement and tuning!
Phil
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[Edited 1 time by RM Audio on 01 October 2002 at 15:46]
in other words purps, an SQ system plays *MUSIC* in high fidelity, and not just BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
and might i add, stereo's were designed for playing music a long, long time before someone decided to play test tones on them
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Custom SQ System
Dolby Prologic II in 3.1
Source: Clarion DXZ-925 w/ DPL2 Decoder - Front Stage: Boston Acoustics Pro 6.5's - Centre Channel: Boston Acoustics Pro 5.5LF - Ambient Satellites: Boston Acoustics 3/4" Kortec Tweeters - Processors: Audiocontrol EQT's - Subwoofers: Earthquake BR12's - Amplifiers: Kicker IX404's - Power: Stinger 1 Farad HPM Capacitor
Sounding sweet and taking it to the street
and might i add, stereo's were designed for playing music a long, long time before someone decided to play test tones on them
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Dolby Prologic II in 3.1
ports tuned to 25hz and not 50+hz
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2002 Holden Astra
HU: Blaupunkt Miami Beach
Front Stage: Orion XTR 6.2
Front Amp: PPI 2360 2x90
Subs: 2 x Audiobahn 1200Q
Sub Amp: JBL 1200.1
Dead Last at Drag Combat 2-3 Woofer class
Winner at BAS 161-260sq inch.
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2002 Holden Astra
HU: Blaupunkt Miami Beach
Front Stage: Orion XTR 6.2
Front Amp: PPI 2360 2x90
Subs: 2 x Audiobahn 1200Q
Sub Amp: JBL 1200.1
Dead Last at Drag Combat 2-3 Woofer class
Winner at BAS 161-260sq inch.
my god, this is purps' 2nd post in the SQ forum.... is he jumping the fence???
he wasn't interested when there were no comps, now they maybe, he is "Purps: trophy hunter" j/k
SQ - is music sounding the same as when it was originaly recorded, no colouration or distortion.
cheers dave
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he wasn't interested when there were no comps, now they maybe, he is "Purps: trophy hunter" j/k
SQ - is music sounding the same as when it was originaly recorded, no colouration or distortion.
cheers dave
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quote:
Originally posted by fuddbutter:
something that makes you wanna get out your fav CD and go for a drive to nowhere just so u can listen to it,
BINGO!
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Still to come: A nice 2 or 4 channel front stage and a gruntmaster sub-amp.
so basically we're all getting high on bass"
A small "refinement" to fuddbutter's observation.....
When people ask me "why did you go to all that trouble and expense?" I say because it turns every drive into a special occasion, and it does
What more could you want?
And PuRpS is I believe "getting with the SQ programme", he has Morels now.....well last time I saw him he did
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
When people ask me "why did you go to all that trouble and expense?" I say because it turns every drive into a special occasion, and it does
What more could you want?
And PuRpS is I believe "getting with the SQ programme", he has Morels now.....well last time I saw him he did
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Mazda SP20 - NOT yellow,Dynamat Extreme and G Spot in front doors
HU - Alpine CDA-7876RB
Audison VRx 2.150EX front stage amp
JL Audio 500/1 Class D monoblock sub amp
Front Stage - Morel HCW 6.5 woofers, Morel MT2 tweeters, Morel MX2.2 x-overs.
Rear fill - stockies with power from HU (not that they get any)
Sub - Kicker S12L72 in 75 litre 30Hz slot-ported display box.
Stinger cables and connectors etc
TEAM AUDISON SQ WITH ATTITUDE
easy,
the ability for your system to accurately
reproduce a recorded peice of music.
it does not matter how it is acheived $$$ as long as it can do it.
Regards
Trev
[Edited 1 time by trev on 02 October 2002 at 18:26]
the ability for your system to accurately
reproduce a recorded peice of music.
it does not matter how it is acheived $$$ as long as it can do it.
Regards
Trev
[Edited 1 time by trev on 02 October 2002 at 18:26]
What makes my system a SQ system is that its only job in life is to play music. Hopefully it does it well, but its not designed to just play 57Hz ;)
peace
Punky
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[Edited 1 time by Cyberpunky on 02 October 2002 at 23:29]
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Punky
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[Edited 1 time by Cyberpunky on 02 October 2002 at 23:29]
quote:
Originally posted by RM Audio:
Want to find out if your system qualifies as SQ?
Play some good classical music and see if the strings sound like strings.
If there is a killer bass track coming through while playing Mozart then your system needs a little more refinement and tuning!
Phil
some classical music has been known to go down as low as 5Hz and any music with pipe organ in it properly recorded can go to 16Hz (16Hz is the lowest it can go, cant remember the tech facts ATM)
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