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Jay
Ok, I was just wondering something, and as I haven't seen alot of kickpod installs, I may be asking somthing really obvious, but bear with me :D

If most mid woofers are designed for use in an enclosure roughly the size of a car door, then how do you make an effective kickpod if the space available is only small? I would think you'd have to vent into the body or the trim somewhere, but wouldn't places like that be a major headache to SD and seal properly? Are the imaging advantages really worth the hassle?

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the[K]id
One of the main problems we have here is the fact that cars are RHD. Over in the states, you can get bulk room and great angles as the pedals are not as close (in many cars anyway) to the speaker. Some cars are also more suited to kicks than others. My pug had the stock speakers in the kicks, so there is a great big hollowed out area behind it (fat chance I'm tearing up a classic for a stezza though).

So, now we come to Aus, with the bugger all room, which is why having the woofer in the door, and the tweet (and mid for 3 way) in kicks to get better imaging has become popular.

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KraSE
quote:
Originally posted by the[K]id:
(fat chance I'm tearing up a classic for a stezza though).




classic

just wait till u turn around I will have a wall up and 2 " windows in there hehehehe

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shiny_car
quote:
Originally posted by Jay:
If most mid woofers are designed for use in an enclosure roughly the size of a car door, then how do you make an effective kickpod if the space available is only small? I would think you'd have to vent into the body or the trim somewhere


as mentioned, in most instances, people still put the woofer in the doors, preferably on angled pods. whilst not perfect, midbass, and to a lesser degree midrange, have good 'off-axis' characteristics. so still create an excellent soundstage/imaging from this position.

midrange speakers and tweets require much less space to perform optimally, and benefit from on-axis installation. and some midranges (like tweets) are sealed (ie: sealed casing around the back of the speaker), so don't require a special enclosure. unsealed mids perform better in an enclosure, so some effort in building one will help; but the losses will be in lower midrange verging on midbass frequencies. so often this loss is not apparent in a 3-way setup where the door woofer takes over. that is, an unsealed midrange can still perform very well, sometimes perfectly adequately, in a less than perfect (in terms of sealing) kickpanel setup.

given midranges and tweets are physically small speakers, the effort to install them may not be great, and well worth the effort IMO.

good luck

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the[K]id
quote:
Originally posted by KraSE:
classic

just wait till u turn around I will have a wall up and 2 " windows in there hehehehe






Just wait, I have big plans for this lil car...

Oh, and it will involve kicks!

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