adrianf
Mar 4 2003, 08:23 PM
i'm trying to plan for a new sub + sub amp. For the sub the IDMAX 12 looks like my prefered choice now since it will be avaliable again soon.
i'm a bit unsure about what to power it with thou. i know there is dual 2 or 4 ohms version giving me the choice of 1, 2 or 4 ohms.
i was thinking maybe a cadence z7000 from jb as they seem within my budget. 1400rms for around 1k seemed pretty good value.
but i remember reading before like the higher the ohms the better SQ or something. so would it be better getting something around 1000rms at 2 ohms?
also how does it effect the demands on my electrical system? is 1 ohms a lot more demanding?
my preference is about 60% SQ, 40% SPL.
thanks.
[ March 04, 2003, 18:24: Message edited by: adrianf ]
Bassaholic
Mar 4 2003, 08:27 PM
As long as you don't push the amplifier beyond its rated impedance, then there will be no SQ difference..
adrianf
Mar 4 2003, 08:29 PM
oh ok
how about with the sub? impedance is not a factor of sq aswell?
shiny_car
Mar 4 2003, 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by adrianf:
i remember reading before like the higher the ohms the better SQ or something. so would it be better getting something around 1000rms at 2 ohms?
also how does it effect the demands on my electrical system? is 1 ohms a lot more demanding?
you could argue that a lower impedence will affect things like damping factor, but a good quality monobloc will have no problems with low impedences, so it's a moot point.
a class D amp will be relatively easy on the car's electrics, which is advantageous. running 1ohm is not going it increase power consumption compared with 2ohm until you start utilising power beyond what the amp would produce at 2ohm. that is, up to 750WRMS output (for the Z7000) will consume the same power running at 2ohm or 1ohm; go beyond 750WRMS running at 1ohm, and the amp will consume more power obviously.
the Z7000 would be a good amp. otherwise, you maybe able to score a cheap JL audio 1000/1 from a jb hifi (i don't think they sell many ).
good luck
Sonic Nirvana
Mar 4 2003, 09:48 PM
Kinda ditto the above, damping factor at 1 ohm will be a quarter of what it is at 4 ohms for example BUT with a decent monoblock will be plenty good enough so you wouldn't know....
As shiny says, it's only when you ask for the greater power at lower impedance loads that the current draw from the system will be any issue, and that will be rare, 1000 watts-ish is kinda loud
The Cadence is a good choice but being so happy with my 500/1 JL, I would recommend looking at the right price at the 1000/1, they make strong power across a range of loads and voltage supplies and are very flexible things.
You won't go wrong either way, tho'...
adrianf
Mar 5 2003, 12:19 AM
thanks for the replies, help me clear a lot of my misconceptions.
1000/1 haha um... might be a bit out of my budget. don't the 500/1 go for around 1k? trying to keep sub + amp under 2k.
PartyJase
Mar 5 2003, 01:36 AM
500/1 goes for 1200rrp - but you should be able to get it for closer 850/900.
i think 1000/1 goes for something like 2200rrp
apparently the 500/1 is more like 600wrms+ so maybe you can get away with one of those. and you also get that power at loads from 1.5ohms - 4ohms. so can just wire a dual 2ohm vc for 4ohms and still get max power.
[ March 04, 2003, 23:40: Message edited by: PartyJase ]
STIK79
Mar 5 2003, 12:19 PM
Um... Isn't the Z7000 an a/b topology amplifier? 1500WRms a/b - you'd want the batteries sitting on top of the amplifier
but in reference to the original question - you're not going to hear the difference
adrianf
Mar 5 2003, 01:55 PM
oh yah i just read the catalog again and it is a class ab.
might have to look at the a7hc aswell which is class D.
no wonder why on US forums they complain about the current draw of the z7000.
Sonic Nirvana
Mar 5 2003, 05:55 PM
rrp of a JL 1000/1 is $1798, dunno what a "street price" is tho'.($1400?)
Yeah, a 500/1 should go under $900 street price and 600 watts/4 ohms is strong and they are clean and don't tax the electrical system too much.
For big power, a qualty Class D makes good sense with good efficiency.
shiny_car
Mar 6 2003, 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by STIK79:
Um... Isn't the Z7000 an a/b topology amplifier?
really? wow, there you go, i didn't realise that. my bad.
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