I am curious as to whether or not any manufucturers out there produce very high quality co-incident drivers for car use??

Co-incident drivers are used in many very high quality hi-fi speakers, they would seem to be an obvious choice for car audio because of the ease of installation (no need to position tweeters) but I haven't found any...

So, does anybody know of any of these drivers available??

the only true co-incident car speakers available were the KEF Uni-Q 160Q speakers, which i used to have in my car. alas, they dont make car speakers any more, but if you are serious about it, you can simply install KEF's Uni-Q outdoor or 'in-wall' speakers in your car, they are supposed to be just as superb as their car gear was, and are of infinite baffle design, just make sure they have a decent amount of airspace behind the driver, as was intended for their wall-mounted application.

Kef started the ball rolling with the Uni Q coincedent drivers...they came in 5.25, 6.5 and 6x9"...some people still manufacture them i think Eclipse, Clarion and Aura and some others do.....anybody know of any other brands?...



By the way if you can find a decent set of the Kef's they were a very nice sounding speaker...a freind used to run a pair of these and a Soundstream SS10R sub in his Integra and it sounded fantastic...

Bugger! Beaten to it by T Bro again....

[ March 19, 2003, 15:36: Message edited by: roughcactus ]

sorry roughcactus

yes, they are outstanding orgasmic sounding speakers, in fact, i will go so far as to say the best i have ever heard in a car with live music. sadly, they just lacked efficiency, power handling and the ability to survive in a car. i still have a pair, with the optional KEF crossovers (these are HUGE passives, hand wound coils, the lot) sitting in my closet, they developed a fault, maybe one day i will decide what to do with them.

so yeah, KEF are the only true co-incident design, the only other company that does co-incident is Tannoy (another british manufacturer) but they dont make car speakers. anything else is a co-axial speaker, as the co-incident design (where the VC of the tweeter and woofer are phase aligned) is patented. coaxials get very close to being point source, but are not co-incident.

hence, if you really want to have co-incident speakers in your car, your probably best persuing the KEF range of Uni-Q in-wall speakers - i know i would

Cheers guys... always can count on CAA to deliver

AVI sound has or used to make co-incident source speakers based on the MX-130 and MX-160 dedicated midrange drivers, check out the site at: www.avisound.com they have under point source speakers on the sidebar.

Oz make coaxials using point source technology. Their Matrix line consist of 6.5" and 5.25" versions. Like T-Bro said however, they aren't "true" coincident drivers.

Paul

i know there are still a couple of pairs of KEF coincidentals floating around southern NSW still brand new from a couple of dealers i have talked to ... if you are interested, give me a pm and i can give you their details

How much r these coincident drivers?? like damn expensive i spose??
what sorta power handling are we looking at for a set of these?

ORION also had a range of these drivers, I still have mine (which are 'for sale' I might add). I believe the Orion's were the Xtreme series 4CS, 5CS and 6CS. Back in the early days of CAA these drivers recieved quite good raps. When mine were new they were about $350-$400 RRP 'I think'. I have the 4 inch (4CS), which took me to many IASCA wins and a third at the finals in season 1998-'99 (mated to a pair of Orion Xtreme 8MB's for front end duties)...