claf_43
Apr 26 2003, 12:55 PM
One weak SQ aspect of my system (when i have all the rears off or low...) is definitely the sub and sometime (not in the imediate future) i was looking at replacing it
I have a DLS mono amp that is capable of 1200wrms at 1ohm and 800wrms at 2ohm so i am looking for a single sub that is either dual 2 or dual 4ohm.
I was looking into running 2 DLS magneisums (4ohm $600each and 400wrms) but am just curious about some other single sub suggestions
One 12" would be ideal or maybe a really good 10". I need it to keep up with all the other speakers in the car (14 others!!!!)
Baring in mind im doing a more showy install as well (hence 2 pairs of boot speakers)
Stone
Apr 26 2003, 01:01 PM
Adire Audio - Brahma 12". Dual 2 ohm, can run well with anything from 400-1600Wrms. I think $935.
Also, JL W7 bit more expensive though, Image Dynamics IDMAX...
[ April 26, 2003, 11:03: Message edited by: Stone ]
claf_43
Apr 26 2003, 01:02 PM
Any comments on the Boston 12.5LF???
what do they go for???
1200w power handling and 1cubic foot enclosure
claf_43
Apr 26 2003, 01:03 PM
QUOTE
Originally posted by Stone:
Adire Audio - Brahma 12". Dual 2 ohm, can run well with anything from 400-1600Wrms. I think $935.
who stocks these???? im pretty sure their not in SA but if i have to get one sent...
Stone
Apr 26 2003, 01:06 PM
http://www.acoussticconcepts.com.au/ distributes Adire Audio products. They will ship to you.
I thought you said powerful? The Boston is a nice sounding sub, but it doesn't compare to the three listed above and it will not take 1200Wrms daily. MY local shop loves their Boston gear but when I told them I was going to give one 600Wrms daily, they told me not to because they've had so many cook. They are about $500-550.
[ April 26, 2003, 11:15: Message edited by: Stone ]
Stone
Apr 26 2003, 01:11 PM
http://www.adireaudio.com/mobile_audio/dri...ahma_series.htmWith 1200Wrms, would put it in a 0.6ft box not incl. displacement according to their power handling page... I'd rather put in ti a big bigger box and be careful with the volume, just to give a bit more bottom end
[ April 26, 2003, 11:12: Message edited by: Stone ]
Fudd
Apr 26 2003, 05:08 PM
never had a problem with any of my boston pro's, i have a 12.4 which i was giving it 350-450 wrms which is way over it's maximum, and my gf has a 10.5lf getting a 200-250wrms (soon to be alot more) but i have heard ppl giving the 12.5 800 - 1000wrms daily no probs??
Bodyjar
Apr 26 2003, 06:35 PM
Slappin_Rex also has a Boston pro running off 600wrms, and hasn't had a problem... I wouldn't rule it out.
The Adire would be very nice, maybe check out the XTANT 1244 Hex sub, they are beautiful, look sweet as and sound just as good. And are around $700 I think?
Maybe check out those Diamond 12's for sale in the For Sale forum, $400 each.
DrEvil
Apr 26 2003, 07:38 PM
DD9512. They are meant to be great for SQ, but most people only hear about there SPL features...
also the Kicker L7 series in a 12" is nice as Critter used to have in his car.
Ignite
Apr 26 2003, 07:41 PM
QUOTE
Originally posted by DrEvil:
also the Kicker L7 series in a 12" is nice as Critter used to have in his car.
used to......
but definitely as DrEvil said that sub absolutely kicks ass. Anyone that has heard it now, would agree it goes as hard as my 2 15's - well thats what I reckon anyway.
But i love it
Laterz,
Anthony
Stone
Apr 26 2003, 10:01 PM
Regarding the Boston Pro's, that wasn't from my experience, just what an installer/salesman told me... I don't know why he'd lie, they were the most expensive subs in the shop.
Fudd
Apr 27 2003, 04:27 AM
i think stone it would all come down to how much profit there making, why push one brand when they can make more of another sub??
Hutch
Apr 27 2003, 10:22 AM
Image Dynamics IDMAX 12 would be an option. High power handling, works well in small enclosures, looks amazing and retails for $849. Also, they have a 3 year warranty. On the subject of Boston Pro 12's, many years ago I had a customer running one of a MRV 1505 and he absolutely roasted it, but then again, the guy was an idiot!
NUTTTR
Apr 27 2003, 10:39 AM
I'd personally be inclined to go
Adire Audio Brahma 12"
IDMAX 12"
JL 12w7 (only last because it's bloody exxy)
Aaron
Sonic Nirvana
Apr 27 2003, 11:39 AM
For what you are looking to do, a Brahma 12 or IDMAX seems the logical choices. Excellent woofers that are superb for SQ and have massive linear travel for heaps of quality output.
W7s are exxy, mebbe twin 12W6v2's? for the dual woofer option.
Sadly, the current range of L7s isn't as suited to low-tuned porting as the one I had (and Ignite now does), not by a long way. Having said that, the new ones will go fine sealed as a pair and are under-rated as SQ drivers.
Much as I am very happy with the PG Ti's, and would recommend them to anyone for strong, genuine SQ, damn I miss that L7 sometimes for it's fabulous low down grunt and control......
Edit: Looks like it's about time Ignite changed his sig to indicate he has the Real Deal now
[ April 27, 2003, 09:42: Message edited by: Critter ]
claf_43
Apr 28 2003, 09:52 PM
how much do the JL subs go for???
i was offered a 10.5lf boston (10"...) for $550 boxed, maybe 2 is an option, or even 2 of the competitor subs
Stone
Apr 28 2003, 10:16 PM
claf_43
Apr 28 2003, 10:22 PM
thanks mate
i have actually been given the chance to test the sub in the car (boston 10.5lf) its a 2ohm sub and i could give it around 800wrms
Would a single 10" go loud enough in a commodore??? or should i look in to two 10s or even 12" subs
claf_43
Apr 28 2003, 10:25 PM
How much can you pick up the Brahma 12" subs for??
$935 is a bit much at the moment, I just dont know if i would find anything better value then the Bostons
Poida
Apr 28 2003, 10:52 PM
Eclipse aluminium or titanium subs, i love those things...very tight and go pretty damn loud
claf_43
Apr 28 2003, 11:02 PM
i dread to ask how much something that includes 'eclipse' and titanium' might cost
claf_43
Apr 28 2003, 11:24 PM
How about the Polk Audio 10" subs 500wrms power handling <$450. Two of them will hit hard????
Fudd
Apr 28 2003, 11:44 PM
i find the polk's dont hit that hard (well not in shineys car anyway )
i think 2 x 10.5LF subs!
claf_43
Apr 29 2003, 10:57 AM
i may be testing one today in the car so i'll let you know how it goes
Sonic Nirvana
Apr 29 2003, 11:03 AM
I guarantee you that 2 x 12" PG Ti's hit hard. Oh, yeah.....
claf_43
Apr 29 2003, 11:18 AM
how much do they go for??? power handling???
Mr_Bob
Apr 29 2003, 11:46 AM
2 PG Ti 12's wouldn't hit any harder than 1 12" brahma IMO.
you will only need one, but as you become deaf you can always add another later.
nothing better than a brahma (value for money) IMO. I've never heard any other driver 12" driver with the low end balls, the volume and SQ that the brahma has.
(i got mine from acoustic concepts too)
claf_43
Apr 29 2003, 12:04 PM
how much can these be picked up for???
I dont suppose you wanna sell yours
[ April 29, 2003, 10:06: Message edited by: claf_43 ]
claf_43
Apr 29 2003, 01:05 PM
Alright, peoples opinions on Shivas???
maybe 2 12 running off 400wrms each
Walkinshaw
Apr 29 2003, 04:30 PM
Being the Brahma's little brother i would say these drivers, from all reports, will provide sikly smooth subbass.
Also have a look into a Beyond Audio Inhuman. they are around the 900/1g mark.
they are very much like the brahma big beefy and lots of balls.
claf_43
Apr 29 2003, 05:21 PM
any ideas on price?????
Sonic Nirvana
Apr 29 2003, 08:15 PM
The Brahmas as I have said often are an excellent sub, for the price no single sub comes close IMO.
Having said that, they do need a very tough amp to make them work properly ie 1 ohm stable with big power. Mr_Bob's is a vastly different thing wired 4 ohm and 1 ohm. No contest. So you need that kind of sub amp, otherwise there are better choices IMO.
For a single sub for a higher load, look at an IDMAX ($849). For twins, a huge range of excellent choices, Shivas or PG Ti's amongst them.
AndyB
Apr 29 2003, 09:26 PM
Interesting post as I am too in the market for a sub. Had almost decided on a Xtant hex sub, as they sounded pretty sweet after a little auditioning.
But with the wrap up on these brahma's... a few hundred more won't kill me . Any ideas where I can audition/purchase in melbourne? is $935 as mentioned before a street price?
Lastly it'll be running off a Lrx 1.400, if they like power, I could get a dual 2 to feed it 900W. I have one of the cooling modules for the Lrx, and most likely be in a fan cooled amp rank anyway. So heat shouldn't be too much of a problem I hope... if anyone else running the same amp at 1ohm it'd be good to hear their experience. What kinda size enclosure for optimal performance? Would prefer a sealed for ease of building and no tuning
Thanks guys!
AndyB
claf_43
Apr 29 2003, 10:35 PM
i ended up getting 2 Boston Pro 10" subs. I know i'll regret that in the future but i aint going to buy a $1000 sub without ever seeing one (brahma )
They were very clean and punchy though. I tested a single one in my system with the gains at 0 and it sounded sweet
claf_43
Apr 29 2003, 10:36 PM
They'll be getting 600wrms each, is that too much????????
shiny_car
Apr 30 2003, 12:07 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by RetroPimp:
i find the polk's dont hit that hard (well not in shineys car anyway )
hee,hee, it certainly hits hard if i tune it that way with the gains up higher. really nice, tight, low subbass. but i have the gains as low as they go to suit pure SQ for now. awaiting installation of the subamp remote control to adjust the output on the fly.
the boston pro's will be very sweet, so no probs there.
Fudd
Apr 30 2003, 12:40 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by Mr_Bob:
2 PG Ti 12's wouldn't hit any harder than 1 12" brahma IMO.
you will only need one, but as you become deaf you can always add another later.
nothing better than a brahma (value for money) IMO. I've never heard any other driver 12" driver with the low end balls, the volume and SQ that the brahma has.
(i got mine from acoustic concepts too)
i guess u havent heard a boston pro then??
my gf's 10in go's lower than any other 12in i have hear, including my old 12.4 which went damn loud!!
oh and shiny, next meet i cranking those gains up!!
bass mechaniks and clipping here we come!!
Sonic Nirvana
Apr 30 2003, 10:45 AM
claf_43
I'm certain you will have no regrets with the Bostons. Good sub for sure. The important thing is you end up with something you are happy with. All Good. And 600 watts is fine with good headroom but a good sub-sonic filter would be wise.
The truth is the quality of the medium-priced to premium end of the subwoofer market is full of quality product, it is very competitive. There are really no duds. Enclosure and set-up are much the more important parts of the performance equation.
AndyB
The Brahma works in a quite small enclosure sealed enclosure, about 35 litres (1.25 cu ft) is fine but remember they are large woofers and take about 5 litres in themselves.
That makes for the best low-end response from a sealed 12 I have EVER plotted.
Phil (RM Audio) will be able to advise suitability of the LRx for driving one @ 1 ohm.
claf_43
Apr 30 2003, 11:04 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by RetroPimp:
quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Bob:
[b]2 PG Ti 12's wouldn't hit any harder than 1 12" brahma IMO.
you will only need one, but as you become deaf you can always add another later.
nothing better than a brahma (value for money) IMO. I've never heard any other driver 12" driver with the low end balls, the volume and SQ that the brahma has.
(i got mine from acoustic concepts too)
my gf's 10in go's lower than any other 12in i have hear, including my old 12.4 which went damn loud!!
oh and shiny, next meet i cranking those gains up!!
bass mechaniks and clipping here we come!! [/b]
you will be glad to see of my new purchase
Mr_Bob
May 5 2003, 01:31 PM
QUOTE
Originally posted by RetroPimp:
quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Bob:
[b]2 PG Ti 12's wouldn't hit any harder than 1 12" brahma IMO.
you will only need one, but as you become deaf you can always add another later.
nothing better than a brahma (value for money) IMO. I've never heard any other driver 12" driver with the low end balls, the volume and SQ that the brahma has.
(i got mine from acoustic concepts too)
my gf's 10in go's lower than any other 12in i have hear, including my old 12.4 which went damn loud!!
oh and shiny, next meet i cranking those gains up!!
bass mechaniks and clipping here we come!! [/b]
that's it!!!!
next time i see you, we're starting SPL wars @26Hz!!!
spud
May 9 2003, 04:20 PM
does anybody know anything about the new Jaycar 10" metal coated cone subwoofers.
Wat r they like for sq????
claf_43
May 9 2003, 04:24 PM
trust me, post a new topic you will get more answers quickly
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