Well, I didn't know i would get so many replies. Making me dizzy thinking about it.Anyway,i have narrowed it down to what i may be getting. Either i get one 12" image dynamics sub or i get 2 medium 12" subs such as DD or type r or 2 10". Damn which one to choose, so many choices. Anyway if i am planning on going for sq i am not sure which one of these i should get. As the 12" image dynamic is damn nice but pretty expensive. 2 12" are moderately priced and they cover a wider area than one 12". Damn, have i missed anything....I am so confused.

The DD 2012 is an incredibly clean woofer, they only reason you really need to go up from there (say to a 3512) is if you want to run more than 500Wrms per sub.

The $349 2012 will take 500Wrms all day, the 3512 will take 1600W all day. Both have the same tight, controlled and dynamic SQ abilities. DD's parent company is famous in PRO-Audio applications such as recording studios and concert halls. Don't make the mistake of thinking DD woofers are SPL-Pigs. They are SQ woofers that also happen to be the world's loudest.

Phil

man every person that sells SPL subs for SQ say's the exact same thing "there designed for SQ but there loud!!"

i hate marketing

and please remember i am a salesment to, i know how to bulcrap ppl into a sale

Any rought idea how much a dd 3512 would cost?

id have to say rockford fosgate is my choice for sq

Retail is $749

i heard a kicker solobaric l7 10" and was very unimpressed... sloppy sloppy bass.

if you're after a real SQ replacement woof, i'd be looking towards multiple dynaudios, a dig designs, adire audio brahma, peerless xls... xtant... velodyne...

then again it depends on what your idea of SQ is... cos from what i've read on here, everyone has a different idea.

audition some subs for yourself. get one to match your system.

d

haha yeah watch out for the sales BS

I love my Orion 2NT 12s for SQ because they play lower sealed than most good quality 15s and are extremely detailed. They need some heavy midbass to keep up with them though because they aren't very punchy. I am of the same opinion as Bassaholic and cross my subs at 50-60Hz with 8" midbass up front so I don't want a real punchy sub but it still needs a flat response for the frequency range it plays.

Have you heard anything other than Rockford?
Have a listen to some of the brands mentioned in this thread and i'm sure you'll change you mind.

I'm trying to find a nice sub to match the sub channel on a Audison SRx3 ... thats 340W RMS at 2ohm...

I don't want something punchy, i just want some nice low bass... I don't want to spend an excessive amount of money though.

Is there anything that will suit my needs?

Thanks,
Tom.

(PS. sorry if im hijacking thread...its just on the same topic )

[ October 15, 2003, 20:41: Message edited by: decifer ]

Rockford subs are very much an SPL subs if you want SQ any of the fore mentioned brands are superior I reckon you cannot go past an IDMax if you can afford it these are awesome woofers anything else comparable will cost you twice or more as much.

Brahma isn't twice as much, but it is nowhere near as pretty as the IDMax

Brahma is an animal though

IMO go with 1 great sub rather than 2 good ones.
simpler, lighter, more boot space, better sq.
and with one great sub, if it isn't loud enuf, you can always get another one, if you've got 2 already what can you do? get 3? 4?

as mentioned before consider the IDMAX(~$800) or brahma(~$1000, correct me if i am wrong)

after having a brief listen in Mr_Bob's car, the brahma is definatly a very nice sub, this is coming from someone who owns an IDMAX.

personally i'd say if you had to choose between the two it would come down to your amp. if you had less than 1200rms and wanted to save ~$200 go with the IDMAX. if you had more(preferably a lot more) i'd go with the brahma.

Im about to face the same problem.. I'd really like a focal 11 or 13".. any advice on either of these?

Most likely be a sealed box at this stage - though defn not decided

Ive got an Elemental Designs 12A subwoofer. Many of you probably have not heard of them. So far so good, they have been compared to JLW7 and Brahmas and some have even gone as far as saying they outperform Brahmas..

http://www.edesignaudio.com/ep2/news/jgreview.htm

P.S If anyone is interested in the Adire Kodas 6.1 which im selling its still available (New by the Way).. a few interests but nothing firm..

i wouldnt mind getting an elemental design sub, but the shipping costs from the u.s is such a *****, from memory it was like 150 bucks or something when i emailed the guys at elemental designs

*cough* *cough*
Pioneer TS-W12PRS!
i'll come to some of da meets and show them off to ya all when my install is complete!

check the net for reviews in the meantime...

The Pioneer's don't even come close to the high-end subs mentioned above

Hehehe - sorry for the free plug - I've got a 13" Focal in a sealed box in the FS forums.

I loved it - it plays nice and tight - and definately low. A polyglass sub (13") in a 35l sealed box. Everyone that heard it was impressed.

The only reason I'm selling - need a sub that can handle 1500wrms

But for what you're after - I love the focals.

I run a Focal Poly Kevlar 33k 13" and it sounds great but I wouldn't recomend a sealed box for them, i'd go ported. Also a mate of mine has 3 IDmax's and they sound sweet