Basically I just upgrade my speaker cable as well as the RCA.
I currently own dynaudio 240 gt and willing to have quality in sound.

I used to have non branded speaker cable and non branded RCA, only have written "speaker cable 16 gauge" on the cable and no brand at all.

I have upgrade them all to full "Stinger" which it's quite well known brand.

The stinger cable I'm using now is the "Expert Series" 14 gauge for the front splits.
And "Dream Series" for the RCA.

Now my question is:
1. how come with the old non branded cable my
front splits sounds warmer (doesn't show the
high frequency that much, so not sharp).

2. with this new stinger cable my splits sounds
louder, sharper and hushier, why is that?

3. is that because of this new cable has a break
in period maybe for couple of weeks?

4. is that because stinger design for spl and
that's why not good for quality?

5. is the main problem more likely cause by the
RCA or the speaker cable itself?

6. what do you guys suggest me to do with this?

[ December 12, 2003, 13:59: Message edited by: advertising ]

well call me a skeptic but I doubt anything has changed. Any difference in perception is imagined and not real. I cant explain how 2 peices of copper sound different, but if you can then its no wonder you can hear differences. I have trouble knowing what I heard a few seconds ago let alone what I heard before I stripped out spkr cable and RCAs.

Im sure you think that system sounds louder harsher etc, but I seriously doubt it does. All I can suggest is that if you really feel changing things has degraded results, then change back.
peace
Cyberpunky

I agree with Cyber, I doubt many pple (including moi) can actually hear the difference in speaker wire and RCAs.

Now, if u insisit that u did hear a difference, then there might be a reason - like maybe the old rcas were loosing contact? or broken inside the insulation? Maybe the speaker wires to were pinched/ rusted and loosing contact/ shorted/grounded/etc.

Are you sure non of the settings on the HU /amp /x-overs /eq /etc were not changed? I'd double check those.

Regards,
Mohan

yep the settings on hu, amp gain, crossover and everything is all the same...

indeed on my old speaker wire I saw quite a few of rust on it.
maybe because it's a nonbranded cable and so cheap to get (only about $2/meter) that's why easily to get rust.

it just that I feel with the cheap wire my splits sound warmer, like tweeter sound not as hush and not as sharp, midd bass not as loud...

but with this new stinger cable has much more detail, like all the high pitch frequency all come out from the tweeter, more power in the midbass...

I have been thinking to change it back to the old wire but after seeing all that rust on the old cable, I doubt to change it back.

maybe I'll wait and see in this couple weeks see whether the new cable might need break in first...

or maybe it's all just my imagination/ feeling though...

If the sound has more detail, more midbass and more top end, how is that a problem?

Are we not trying to hear ALL of the music, by whatever means?

the eternal problem with this hobby is that when people upgrade one thing, they upgrade another thing quite often, at the same time. perhaps your equaliser settings were changed or reset during the cable overhaul, perhaps different reference CD's were being used - there are so many factors to consider, its hard to say if its the cable or something else.

that said, many people do say cable makes a difference, but many others dont - if your ears dont like it, you should probably change it, as apart from speculation not much else can be worked out from here

Regardless of whether the differences before and after are real or imagined the Stinger products you are using are excellent quality and whether audible or not would be a technical improvement. If you're not happy with how it sounds now some tuning is probably the best way to address it. Try reducing the tweeter level in the X250 crossover. If you need to reduce the tweeters "harshness" further you could try some EQ. or moving them further away eg: in the kickpanels.

I would never have described dynaudio tweeters has "harsh", thats a personal opinion... But i'd suggest something else has changed elsewhere... Go through and make sure every setting is correct, including polarity of the cabling, i.e. make sure +ve goes to +ve, etc, to test this, swap 1 set of wires @ the amp itself, so puts one set of speakers out of phase, this will change the sound a fair bit and give you a good idea if it is correct or not.... I tend to notice the sound is more "hollow" when not in phase, this may be what you are describing
Aaron

alot of difference people hear especialy with cables, is more mental, after forking out that cause, you want it to sound so much better, or for it to sound better, you actually think there is a change

If nothing else changed in the system or settings, your are probably hearing the changes in the cable due to it having different capacitive and inductive properties to what you had in there before. How your equipment performs will also be altered slightly because of this as well.

I believe strongly in different cables having different qualities to each other, in turn affecting the sound sometimes subtly and other times quite noticeably.

Just because a cable has a name on it won't necesarily make things better.

I personally believe there is not a significant audible difference in the cable you use..

As already said, dont you want the full range anyways?!

i remember a nice, article in a home audio magazine, where they were testing out various brands of cables, the set 20 people in a room, and played the same track using each sets of cables, rca and speaker.
every one recorded on there score cards, some impresive changes in sound from the different cables.
the problem was the organsisers were only pretending to change the cables and used the same ones the whole time

as for the different cables having different capacatance, yeah they will but seen its in the pico farads range, it will only effect frequencies in the megahertz really, and i dont see many sterios that can do that