David, You may possibly be aware of this already, but the Australian competition scene has been dying a slow and horrible death over the last few years.

I for one am a strong supporter of competition (and I know Philip is too), because I beleive that it brings out the best in installers, and promotes growth within our industry.

Australia has been operating under the IASCA banner for a number of years, yet officials are becoming increasingly harder to contact, and increasing numbers of show promotors are electing to use their own judging formats, with little or no consistancy between events.

I was wondering if you have any advice on how we at CAA could go about restoring competition to its rightful place?

Thanks,
Matt.

IASCA Australia president is Neil Matthews - I'd give you his mobile number but I don't think he'd like that. Petitions etc, get on the blower....

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MrPulsar - I have Neil's email address, but seeing how long it took to update my IASCA membership details, I can't guarantee a fast response But then again, you probably already knew that!


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haha very true!

seems like most the SPL guys cant get though a day without bitching about each other

this is a threadmine of all threadmines

out of curiosity, date of thread april 18 2001 - join date of OP january 18 2004?

Stone! Quick, ban him!!!

You weren't banned Cide, just had posting privileges removed

I must say, that was my first thought as well. Though being an admin no doubt he'd just allow the privileges again.

92 Gen - I think that would be something to do with the boards being merged or something along the way, so the join date was thrown out of whack.

Haha yeah i know, Stone reminds me of that fact every time i have a dig

perhaps the answer then is to remove Marc's admin privileges for a week? that'll learn him!

remove marc's privileges?

for a whole week?

can you imagine the ruckus in the SPL/comp section if we did that - Billy would be able to post whatever was on his mind without threat of recrimination...and poor Phil would just get flamed.

~shudder~

I'd prefer the mining thanks...

you call it a ruckus, i call it front row seats to the fight of the century! and unfortunately for phil, not even Marc with all his powers seem to be able to stop him from getting verbally assaulted

and it wouldn't be total chaos, hitler boy would still be here to keep us in check!

now that would be funny if everyone could say what ever they liked. i know there is plenty i would love to get off my mind. but a few of my friendships and others friendships would be wrecked if i did. LOL and thats not something i'd like happening.

been there tried that and changed his name..


guess this is why im no longer Admin hahaha

You guessed it Fudd

Classic!

this topic have a point?

Why do you think nobody contibutes anything to SPL discussion these days? As soon as a topic starts to get under full steam a bunch of SQfags, who would never contribute anything anyway, jump on board and fuel the fire by making retarded statements. Things get locked and then what was said gets bottled up. It would be interesting to see if what would get said, got said and the issue would get resolved. just my $0.02

did anyone else see the zippo hidden in that post?

I actually don't recall many "SQfags" jumping in SPL threads ... the SPL guys do a good enough job at ruining good threads themselves. So before you start throwing around accusations and claiming people make "retarded statements" perhaps take a little of you own advice hey?

yeah that was the bit i was talking about

IASCA... ahhh, those were the days. Before it all fell apart completely, that is.

so many rules, so many restrictions.

I think the current format (flexible and light-weight) works a lot better. All we need now is some rubber and a jar of vaseline.

oh, woops, wrong topic.

anyways.

Viva la Difference!
I stopped competing in SPL because the rules changed to disadvantage me.
SQ is ok, because more power doesn't mean you get higher scores (but it can help).

But still boring ..... and not for spectators

Ask any SPL Competitor and they enjoy watching others in the lanes... as we understand the difficulty of getting big numbers... But a normal person will see 2 12' subs and go that guys doing 150's and this other guys is doing 140 he sucks... they don't understand the differences between the cars, differences between woofers. also 1 car is running 4k the other 500w. the same as somebody who dosn't understand the rules of rugby league. State of origin is one of the greatest spectacles you can see in the sport, But if you didn't know what they were doing it would be boring... I feel the same with SQ... Spend big bucks on gear then listen to it at a moderate volume?? WTF if I'm spending money on gear i want it to sound good but be loud 2... lol

way to make yourself look like a tool!

So you're saying you'd rather spend big bucks to listen to your system, once you un-pause it...





Thats what us in the SQ think of SPL

Watch SPL'ers come and defend how much they spend on flatulence

The SPL'ers bumper sticker...



The SPL'ers coffee mug...



And the SPL'ers T-shirt...



You guys got it all covered by the looks of it

nah id rather spend my big bucks to sit next to you at the lights and drain your quiet SQ system out with my 20,000wrms of pure grunt

not all SPL systems are one note wonders i know mine plays music at over 157 dB no problem, mind you i just need to get a front stage that can be heard with the bass. but yeah as said not all SPL cars are one note wonders

bahahahaha ^^^^^^^^^^^^ awesome George!

see, i think of SPL as the beginners end of car audio, cause you only need 1 speaker to start and an amp, you dont need front speakers etc, and then your only playing 1 note, not all of them
then you grow up and get into SQ


(yes im crap stirring you all)

ah i was once into SQ years ago got bored of it as was never loud enough and sounded like a pussy when i'd try to crank it.

if i want SQ i will sit at home and listen to the awesome theater system i have in my lounge room.

if i wanted to compete in SQ guarantee i could prob be at the top end of that to with the money i have spent on SPL.

SQ is easy very very easy, if ya have the money right equipment set it up right band you can win. but why compete in a sport where the winner is decided by a persons supposedly trained, partially deaf ear.

you could have the best SQ car in australia and never compete in SQ. i bet take it to the MEASQ finals it wont win the top spot i bet ya. and thats why SPL guys chose to run SPL because its much harder costs less to win, and also the termlab cant be altered to make it easier for another person to win.

in reality SQ is your sport guys SPL is our sport. honestly if the top SPL guys wanted to they could be top SQ guys to. and if the top SQ guys really wanted to they could prob be top SPL guys. the two sports are just as easy as each other if you have the time and money to put into them

*goes and gets some popcorn*

and ask every SPL guy if they were into SQ once. cause they all have SQ equipment laying around somewhere in their home. cause they started off liking SQ they just never competed in it. then they got tired of a little system and wanted a loud daily driver. and then moved onto all out bass machines.

SPL is the beginner of car audio LMAO.how funny is that comment

more like SQ is the beginner of it. because every car comes out stock with sound quality all ya need is one amp to run the stock car speakers as most stock speakers are splits in cars now and a sub for bass. bang you have a car with good sound quality after some tunning.

thats it for me anyway. if people want to put sh*t on a sport they have never been involved in really, then be prepared for people like me to put sh*t on those people and their sport. and especially when FUDD a previous moderator or admin of this site is one of the people involved in the sh*t slinging, which i find even worse you being involved FUDD looks good for the site doesnt it.

when was the last time ya seen a pure SPL guy thats high in the sport in the SQ sections slinging crap at the sport. prob barely ever
yet the SQ guys yas want to sling crap all the time in the SPL threads.

and i never usually put SQ down but if SQ guys are going to go putting SPL down im the first in line to sling it back. if it gets me banned or not. theres no need for it.

and as for slinging mud remember SPL may have winges at times.

but how many people quit the SQ comp scene after the 2007 finals last year. a whole state decided to say bye to the sport basically.

You just dig yourself holes Billy. From your very first thread on here http://www.mobileelectronics.com.au/forums...showtopic=67187 nothing has really changed.

If you think SQ is about money, you're very mistaken. If you think the best sounding (by that I mean ACCURATE) cars don't win, you're mistaken again!

Pull your head in again Billy.

What happened to the friendly atmosphere of DB drags that used to exist some 3-4 years ago when I first started competing?
It seems the sq guys are still in that "friendly atmosphere" the SPL guys cannot seem to find any more.

Hmmmm ... interesting.

you sir are a tool. simple as that!


a: i have competed in SPL and won. found it not challanging enough (and funnily enough, SPL was what got me into the scene, back when it was full of nice, easy going and helpfull people, such as Timmy (hardon) etc)

b: my stereo in my Eunos was worth probably less than your subs, yet you never have and never will get a stereo that sounded as good as that.

c: have a read of my last line of my comment you fool!

if you want to make this personal, go right ahead

Rules are has to move into lanes under it's own steam?
Has to, you say burp, I say fart as loud as possible?

Well I think we have a winner...



Stirring is fun

Hey mofo, I am friendly.. if you think I am not, I will jump on ya head!!



Dan, I think we do offer a friendly atmosphere, well I know that myself, Ange and Timmy go out of the way to make people feel welcome and always offer support and try and help where-ever possible.

I believe posts like this don't help revive the comp scene.

Sorry Clint, you must have misunderstood me.... I didnt mean the organisers were not friendly, but the SPL scene in general.
Way too many arguments, "brand x" is better then "brand y" sh!t fights etc. Then the a couple of regular "brand x supporters" getting on their high horse over a press release of a "brand y" product. and vice versa. etc etc etc etc

Tegs, at the db comps themselves I think there is a friendly atmosphere, but in the SPL forum on here certainly is not.

I just shake my head sometimes at the crap and dribble I read. There are definately a certain few individuals that are mostly responsible for it, and slowly but surely we are filtering them out in the best interests of everyone.

you know i dont mean you

there are lots of nice people who do SPL, but quite alot that spoil it for others

I won almost every dB drag event in victoria (Street A Class) with my SQ woofers. and only a few points shy of maximum points nationally.
and for under $2500.

SQ is way harder to excel at.

i.e. took me under 2 years to top the class in SPL (victoria), after 4 years of SQ I'm still getting there, and spent four times as much money.

I respect both, both are based on science and fun.

dB drags is more of a spectator sport; no doubt about it, but SQ has a lot more challenges technically.

Something for you loud daily driver folk to take in where us little system folk get to sit back and take in the sunshine with a bag of popcorn and some nice tunes.






Billy, have you noticed how old this thread is from when it was started?

Doesn't matter, we still love ya mate!

What did you start Marc?

I guess someone said it already anyway, this thread isn't do much for reviving the competition scene. That was the original intention.