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Clarkie
db Drag finals results Please
Tarwahh
I only know street 1-2 results

1st Cameron 147db?
2nd Joe 144db?

thats about it
meter was about 4-5db down..
so results were low.
SUBWRX
s1-2 17 peolpe ranged from 129.5-147.8
meter was quite low at least 4-5 db down from other popular metres andu hit 142.2 i belive not sure bout final results.
Tarwahh
yeh andu's highest was 142.9, who usually ranges between 146-147db..
it was a hard meter to crack high 40's in s1-2

[ November 17, 2002, 20:22: Message edited by: Tarwahh ]
DaBass
The 129 was me!!! You get that when one of the little pioneer 12's goes *pop*, not happy jan!

Guess im now in the market for two new subs though
splbound
Super Street 1 - 2 was won at 159.0db from that little fusion car.
2 x JAlomu 15's and a big ported enclosure. Don't know what was powering it though. That install should be called extreme... what the hell was hanging under that car??

[ November 17, 2002, 22:33: Message edited by: splbound ]
ripped
richie had meter with him and it was reading about the same. though that meter is about 4db lower then the meter used as BAS...

hard to tell what is an accurate score without a calibrated meter...

doesn't matter i suppose, as long as the scores are consistent and the same for both mics so you know who was louder.

i wonder why incar phil didn't enter ANY of his cars? did iny incar automotive cars compete in the sound off?
ripped
ok, just called richie, this is what he said the FINAL scores were:

s1-2
1st 147.5 Cameron
2nd 143.

s3-4
1st 144.x Basshead
2nd nfi

ss1-2nw
1st 150.x
2nd nfi

ss1-2
1st 159.x Fusion car
2nd 149.x (from 1 15")

ss3-4
1st nfi
2nd nfi

Extreme
1st 153 Wagon

for some reason AJ did not run his car???
at this stage, the VL wagon is Australia's loudest vehicle, it did do a run at 155.x qualifying and apparently had the door open for the final run, and had a re-run because of this and only got 153 probably because the batteries were dead. but dang! the s1-2 car from new zealand must have been impressive!

also the meter according to must competitors was NOT down from usual. compared to the meters in QLD, it was about 4db lower.

[ November 17, 2002, 23:09: Message edited by: rippedskin ]
RipItUp
thanks rippedskin
the[K]id
QUOTE
Originally posted by Tarwahh:
meter was about 4-5db down..
so results were low.
Ummmmmmmmmm....


I'm sure if they ever want to fix that, mike over here could calibrate it for em
Clarkie
Was the ford escort there JBL gear in it?How many subs were in her?It has a orange cabin with air brushing on it.159db from ss1-2 car is a very good score,was it a proper wall set up or a large box above window line?

Thanks for results guys

Clarkie
BlackIce
Nope, the Escort didn't come along.
God knows what that was under the Fusion car.. maybe he couldn't afford the entire drop tank ?

Cracked the 140's with the lil' blue hand grenade . 141.8dB off the single Magma 12". BTW, the California amp survived 1.5ohm mono
ripped
quote:
Originally posted by BlackIce:
[b]the California amp survived 1.5ohm mono
basic124
i just have to laugh at the guy running it announcing troy as "another proud member of car audio australia".. all of us laugh, troy shakes his head.. and the guy goes "oph.. maybe a not so proud member..."

LOL

and i think i speak for everyone when i say that we cant wait for blackice to tap the full potential of that magma cause damn, if you can get 138 with the magnavox in teh prefab box, then you should be able to get alot more out of it... heres to looking onward and upward
OSO3KY
the thing hanging under the little fusion car was the batteries and yes it is legal for ss1-2
I know cause i built it.
Every time we done something to the car we had the 2002 rules out to make sure it was legal.
By the way i'm not trying to big note myself just thought i should clear it up.
DD Phil
We didn't bring many cars down as our DD gear is not here yet.

To truck down cars like the Mira or our Wagon is an expensive excercise, we'll only do it when we can hit big numbers.

AJ didn't compete as he was mainly there for display, if you noticed there was only 2 MTX 81000Ds in the back. By the sounds of it he still would have won anyhow! AJ hit 156.9 on that meter last year, with his old box and old subs. His car is now over 4 dB louder, even with two amps instead of four.

Never mind, we'll be down for SAS 2003 and FB 2003.

Phil

[ November 18, 2002, 10:58: Message edited by: Incar Phil ]
Andu
142.9 was my final result against Icebreaker who knocked me out with a 144.* I think it was? two CAA guys in the finals in each lane was cool

But also rich got a 144.* with the same box he was running at Doran's when we both hit a 147.3

My conclusion is my slot ports haven't been much of a sucess lol Now where to buy some aeros
Bodyjar
Why are you some of you saying that the meter was down? Did anyone have a system that was the same as a previous attempt on those meters?

Going by our comparisons, yes, the meter was about 4dB down from QLD's highest reading meter. The meter I hit 147.0dB on is about 2.5dB higher than the Final Battle meter, therefor, if I brang my car down I should have hit about 144.5dB putting me in 2-3 place, single 12" woofer... I'm not sure what's going to happen once I get all my gear on, but primary calculations set me at 150dB, this is my goal, SAS2003 is probably going to be my maiden voyage and first attempt on a proper dB Drag comp...

I know it's easy to talk, but here's hoping! hahahaha, Phil, I hope you took note of what I'm saying, QLD meter's ARE high, Dave's meter, the one you test on, reads about 4.5dB louder than dB Drag. Proof could be given from Dave's (Scotts) Ute which pulls 150 on his meter, but only pulled a lousy 143.* at Final Battle.

With the Kramy Van plans and mine and Rippedskins, QLD WILL be the loudest state! muahahahaha!
Well all I will say is that they appear down or they could be up who knows cos you are comparing it to meters that also haven't been calibrated.

would of been nice to see some reliable scores but who knows.
Clarkie
Being a final wouldent the mics have been calibrated?I know they had to for NZ finals as per db drag rules(I think its in the rules)

Clarkie
Bodyjar
It wasn't the Finals, it was at Autosalon Final Battle, the finals for the Autosalon competition. But it was the Australia, dB Drag finals...
it wasn't a 3x event where the it HAS to be calibrated
ripped
QUOTE
Originally posted by Bodyjar:

With the Kramy Van plans and mine and Rippedskins, QLD WILL be the loudest state! muahahahaha!
i have told you by plans are more SQ focused... i'm over the bandpass now!
TAB16V
S1-2 1st Cameron Eames 147.8db
2nd Joe (EQUAKE) 145.7db
3rd Me 145.5db
4th Dan (icebreaker)144.7db

The Extreme car audio SS1-2 car is TOTALLY legal and was running only half its power due to detonating 2 amps the night before. Could you imagine if it had all its power?

The Lanos with the sony car must of had something go wrong I think to get the numbers it did. Somehow i reckon the HU turned off and when he switched it back on, the start up noise must of hit the numbers. He did have a run after that and couldnt get over 136db.
DD Phil
Queensland always has been the loudest state!

INCAR cars won every class at SAS 1999, we topped it again in 2000, we won SPL KING in 2001 also.

We still hold the Australian amateur record set way back at BAS 2000 at 161.

Phil
Bodyjar
Phil, what does that have to do with Final Battle 2002 scores? nothing, please remove it, or someone else will

Kickerboy, that Joe fella didn't hit 145.7 in the final, for some un-known reason he faced his subs forward during the final, and lost 2dB...
TAB16V
That was Joe's highest score for the day, not his final score
DD Phil
"Originally posted by Bodyjar:

With the Kramy Van plans and mine and Rippedskins, QLD WILL be the loudest state! muahahahaha!"

My post was in response to the above, Queensland are the loudest state!

Phil
Bodyjar
QUOTE
Originally posted by Incar Phil:
"Originally posted by Bodyjar:

With the Kramy Van plans and mine and Rippedskins, QLD WILL be the loudest state! muahahahaha!"

My post was in response to the above, Queensland are the loudest state!

Phil
Yes, but we are not a business and don't stand to make profit from saying this. You arent saying QLD is loud, you are saying your business is loud, completely different... If you want to say more, please PM me, but as far as this conversation goes, it is over... keep on topic, or it will be deleted...
Congatulations to Dean an the boys from Extreme car audio. There efforts were rewarded on sunday an they proved once again that you can try to jam all the subs an amps in you want,but if you have no idea on installing than even 24 sub an amps will not help you.Also if all this moaning about the mics being 4-5db out is right then dean is pretty damn close to taking the loudest car title.
Andu
QUOTE
Originally posted by SIR ROUND SOUND:
Congatulations to Dean an the boys from Extreme car audio. There efforts were rewarded on sunday an they proved once again that you can try to jam all the subs an amps in you want,but if you have no idea on installing than even 24 sub an amps will not help you.Also if all this moaning about the mics being 4-5db out is right then dean is pretty damn close to taking the loudest car title.
Well said! Big congrats to the guys.... who were even down 2 amps on the day and still pulled a huge score with 3db less power then usual
Finally some said corgrats to Extreme car audio.Dean you kick ass.Come on you guys it Aussies first Australasain title give Dean some more support ,all it seems it that you guys want to say that "the mike was down" and "AJ would of won" well where the hell was AJ??? ahe didnt compete so he didnt win!!Dean won so show some support
Good on ya mate and a huge congrats from the team with Australasians loudest car from NZ.
Cheers
Bryan
Bodyjar
Yeah, i forgot to congratulate him. It is very impressive! AJ? nobody's talking about AJ, he went soft
icebreaker
QUOTE
Originally posted by Tarwahh:
I only know street 1-2 results

1st Cameron 147db?
2nd Joe 144db?

thats about it    
meter was about 4-5db down..
so results were low.
And Cameron went from a Crossfire amp to a D2.
went from 146.0 - 147.x

Slight breaking of the rules going from a 1000-1200W Amp to a 2000W Amp.
Bassaholic
thats a good point.. you aren't meant to be allowed to change amps unless your amp blows and the amp also has to be of equivalent wattage..

but I guess this wasn't a certified event..

as far as the australiasian records go, since this wasn't a certified event, wouldn't only the scores set at the NZ finals count??
TAB16V
AJ was inside the event, showing off his ground shaking beast. His enclosure hadn't been tested on a mic b4 and didn't wanna risk blowing subs. And about going soft, The dancing girls he had dancin next to his car made me go hard!!!
Andu
QUOTE
Originally posted by Kickerboy:
AJ was inside the event, showing off his ground shaking beast. His enclosure hadn't been tested on a mic b4 and didn't wanna risk blowing subs. And about going soft, The dancing girls he had dancin next to his car made me go hard!!!  
And running X-Ones also. I didn't see any ports either?
PuRpS
there is a port at the botum of the box behind the seats
blownwoofa
Ok Guys Firstly the point seems to be Being Missed this was not DB Drags Australian Finals,it was Auto salon Final Battle. Congrates to all that one but lets get over this QLD is BEST and We built the loadest cars in Autstalia until you get of ya butts and come down to the events it dont mean squat.As for meter reading down well what was the temp,pressure,hight above sea level etc.Now To those in street 1-2 re Cameron changed his amp read the rules again as it says you can change an amp providing you have it with you at the time (which he did)and as for wattage it doesnt matter as Db Drags works on Cone size not wattage.If it did work on wattage the IASCA rating on the Crossfire VR1000d is 250 watt and the Earthquake 200DHC is 300watt(its a 200dhc not a D2).Again Congrates to The winners.
DD Phil
???????????????????????????????

Every class 99 SAS Finals - (Qld)
SAS SPL Kings 2000 - (Qld)
SAS SPL Kings 2001 - (Qld)

I think we've got (QUOTE) "off ya butts and come down to the events" !!!

I'll make sure we bring enough cars to win every class (again) at SAS 2003!!

Phil

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[ November 20, 2002, 10:55: Message edited by: Bodyjar ]
PuRpS
QUOTE
Originally posted by Incar Phil:
???????????????????????????????

Every class 99 SAS Finals -  (Qld)
SAS SPL Kings 2000 -  (Qld)
SAS SPL Kings 2001 -  (Qld)

I think we've got (QUOTE) "off ya butts and come down to the events" !!!

I'll make sure we bring enough cars to win every class (again) at SAS 2003!!

Phil
not if i hav anything to do about it PHAHAHAH

just messing around

[ November 20, 2002, 10:55: Message edited by: Bodyjar ]
BlackIce
Actually the rules state replacement amps have to be within 20% (+/-) of the original amp's power.
I read them last night while thinking how big an enclosure I could cram into the Fez..
Andu
QUOTE
Originally posted by PuRpS:
there is a port at the botum of the box behind the seats
yeh? cool! I didn't get inside it to have a look at that. System wasn't even goin' when I had a look in
deafnr
DEAR INCAR PHIL
ALL I CAN SAY IS BRING IT ALL OF IT.AND $50 FOR GOOD MEASURE. DEAFNR
DD Phil
OK!

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[ November 20, 2002, 12:08: Message edited by: Bodyjar ]
deafnr
My car isnt extreme but ill still give u a challenge with my little ss1-2
I might even just leave the two amps in there to give you a little head start
icebreaker
QUOTE
Originally posted by blownwoofa:
Cameron changed his amp read the rules again as it says you can change an amp providing you have it with you at the time (which he did)and as for wattage it doesnt matter as Db Drags works on Cone size not wattage.

If it did work on wattage the IASCA rating on the Crossfire VR1000d is 250 watt and the Earthquake 200DHC is 300watt(its a 200dhc not a D2).
The rule states you can only change your amp if it blows. (organiser can ask you to prove.)
The rules also state the amp my be +/- 20%...
therefore in this case going by the ratings quoted, there isn't an issue

[ November 20, 2002, 13:30: Message edited by: icebreaker ]
splbound
Hey Guys... No point in fighting about it now as what's done is done. If you have a question on legality then you can always put forward a complaint at the competition.
Bassaholic
icebreaker and blackice are correct..

QUOTE
5-6               Competition vehicles and auto sound systems may NOT be altered during competition at the Finals or at ANY multi-point
     event. Only damaged equipment may be replaced and the equipment being replaced may only be replaced with an equivalent
     component. The determination as to whether a product is an equivalent component  shall be at the sole discretion of the
     dBDRA.

·         You may replace a broken 400 watt amplifier with another brand’s 400 watt amplifier. You may not replace a 400
           watt amp with a 1000 watt amp. (The replacement amp’s rated output power must be within +/- 20% of the original
           amp’s rated output power.)


[ November 20, 2002, 15:59: Message edited by: Bassaholic ]
blownwoofa
I guess that means everyone is happy.Thanxs for your time.By the way the rules say you cant replace in the finals nothing about the heats and this was not a final or a multi point event.Thanxs again I guess this is the end of that topic whats next.?

[ November 20, 2002, 16:36: Message edited by: blownwoofa ]
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