Anonymous
Jan 2 2003, 08:27 PM
ARe these a decent amp? how much should i pay street price do u think?
would they drive my 2 type R's fairly nicely...
and more importantly, is the power CLEAN?
DEF-YET
Jan 2 2003, 08:53 PM
Im thinking of 4 of these for the inhuman..
I dunno how much retail price is But doran pro audio (sydney) have them for $1700!
vanboy
Jan 2 2003, 10:38 PM
for 1700, you can't go past it. got one two days before xmas, and i'm deaf now. :-)
what are you waiting for? do it, do it, do it.
they might burn your jap subs tho....khe he. jokes
DD Phil
Jan 3 2003, 12:33 PM
Damm, $1700 is cheap.
The only other amp that makes more power is a DD 9501 or Alphansonik PMA 1000HC or 1200D.
Phil
Ear bleeder
Jan 3 2003, 06:35 PM
Better be adding the Lanzar D2000m and D3000m to that list of more power and cheaper.....
Bodyjar
Jan 3 2003, 06:43 PM
*cough* D2!!! hehehe
DEF-YET
Jan 3 2003, 10:50 PM
pfft D2 everyone wants one of them
Team U.S. Amps
Jan 4 2003, 12:07 AM
How does a Crossfire 2000D compare to a US Amps 2000X?
Walkinshaw
Jan 4 2003, 12:37 AM
Phil, im sure there are more amps than the three that you listed (and sell) that make more power than the Crosfire2000..
still for $1700, is damn cheap for the power!
splbound
Jan 4 2003, 08:10 AM
Well... if it was between the crossfire or the 2000x... I'd get the 2000x. IMO a nice company that's been in the buisness for a long time and has produced many beefy amps. Not to mention the rartiy of having such an amp in Australia. Don't really care much that it is class A/B efficiency wise as you would probably be having to upgrade the electrical system to run the crossfire anyway. When you get to power levels that high the difference in volume via your ears would probably be negligible.
But hey that's me and if you are searching for outright SPL then the crossfire would most likely be a better option just because of its efficiency........
WeaponX
Jan 4 2003, 10:18 AM
That 2000d is a hella nice Amp, and Crossfire started the whole 1000 watt D-class "thing" so thev'e been around a while.
2000d against the 2000x??, I dunno but you'd have to go the US amps surfboard I reckon, Big is beautiful.
Alphasonik??, aren't they Taiwanese???.
J/K Phil .
DD Phil
Jan 4 2003, 11:01 AM
No, Korean just like the Crossfire.
Although to date I haven't had single problem, unlike Crosssfire.
US amps are still awesome, but without an Australian agent holding stock they aren't readily available. But at $2899 the 2000x makes a tonne of power into even 5 ohms, it totally destroyed everything else tested against in CA&E last year.
The information I have is that DD amps will the way to go in 2003. We're talking $1199 for 1500W, made in the USA.
Phil
Team U.S. Amps
Jan 4 2003, 11:33 AM
Well if anyones interested, theres a 2000X going real cheap in 'Car Audio Products'.
Kramy
Jan 4 2003, 09:54 PM
well considering i have 5 crossfire amps in my van 3 x 1000ds and two other smaller ones i have never had a problem with them. But i guess its just how you treat your equipment to how long it lasts.
DD Phil
Jan 5 2003, 01:55 AM
I sold Crossfire for many years, and used 4 CFA 1000Ds in Adam's 166dB Excel.
The CFAs had a problem caused by poor circuit board mounting, that allowed the legs of the toroidal transformer to ground out on the heatsink. Over 75% of the amps I sold came back after masssive failures that often destroyed sub voice coils.
The BMFs were slightly better, but I have in the last weeks had customers return a TEK 50.4 and BMF 1000D.
I haven't used the VR series, but I think they are a little expensive, given what else is on offer these days.
They do make good power and handle loads as low as 0.5 ohm for burps.
Phil
WeaponX
Jan 9 2003, 07:00 AM
Phil Mate not to sound like a wa&*^er but please edit that sig ,
the LOUDEST SS1-2 in this country is now Xtremes Fusion 2x15' LOMU car 159.something.
maybe you can be "loudest in QLD!".
DD Phil
Jan 9 2003, 11:23 AM
I was told that car is actually Extreme due to the modifications to the floor, roof and doors?
Phil
QUOTE
Originally posted by Incar Phil:
I was told that car is actually Extreme due to the modifications to the floor, roof and doors?
Phil
nope I saw it at nats and it was running ss1-2 and yes has sound deadner on the floor but that is allowed
DD Phil
Jan 9 2003, 07:24 PM
? How did you see the sound deadener on the floor??
the[K]id
Jan 9 2003, 10:13 PM
I had a bit of a look, apart from console mods (allowed in SS, as long as the added console does not pass 2cu ft, afaik) the interior looked pretty stock. Have to ask the peeps who made it though. Of course, it didn't look like it had any of that special "European" sound deadening...
the[K]id
Jan 9 2003, 10:15 PM
Oh yeah, and I can't say for sure, but since the seats were out (can see where brackes were) as well as the console mod, maybe krase saw the SD underneath the floor through those exposed areas? *shrugs*
spoken to some1 who has seen it get built and said they just used SD and i will take his work i trust him unlike others
[ January 09, 2003, 20:26: Message edited by: KraSE ]
DD Phil
Jan 9 2003, 10:29 PM
Where is the car from?
What's in it?
Phil
the[K]id
Jan 9 2003, 10:34 PM
You accuse someone of cheating, and you don't know jack about the car? Why don't we go dragging up someone extreme plexi roof, etc. Until you, or a dB DRA judge has taken a look and called it ex (and the top dB Drag boys in Aus called it SS), why not leave it be.
Its running Fusion, Jonah Lomu or whatever subs, and 2 (2 others blew I heard) fusion amps.
[ January 09, 2003, 20:45: Message edited by: the[K]id ]
Xtreme car audio
2 fusion JL 15"s
2 Fusion JL amps
a few batteries
a wall
~750sq inches of port
and u make a acqusation that it has illegal mods yet you have no idea what car
Ear bleeder
Jan 10 2003, 12:08 AM
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originally posted by the[k]id:
You accuse someone of cheating, and you don't know jack about the car? Why don't we go dragging up someone extreme plexi roof, etc. Until you, or a dB DRA judge has taken a look and called it ex (and the top dB Drag boys in Aus called it SS), why not leave it be.
I didn't see anywhere that Phil accused them of cheating, he said QUOTE
I was told that car is actually Extreme due to the modifications to the floor, roof and doors?
Phil
decypher
Jan 10 2003, 04:29 AM
i've had my BMF 1000D in my car for a couple of weeks now.. VERY impressed, big step up from my old kenwood kac 728... and it makes my IDQ15 kick hard... the crossfire 2000Ds look great
the[K]id
Jan 11 2003, 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by Ear bleeder:
quote:
originally posted by the[k]id:
You accuse someone of cheating, and you don't know jack about the car? Why don't we go dragging up someone extreme plexi roof, etc. Until you, or a dB DRA judge has taken a look and called it ex (and the top dB Drag boys in Aus called it SS), why not leave it be.
QUOTE
I was told that car is actually Extreme due to the modifications to the floor, roof and doors?
Phil
If I was competing against you in street 1-2, and I had a battery hidden in the boot, would you not call that cheating? Same **** , competing in a different class than that which you qualify for, is cheating, and accusing someone of doing that, is accusing them of cheating.
Ear bleeder
Jan 10 2003, 08:41 PM
posted by the[k]id:
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Originally posted by Ear bleeder:
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originally posted by the[k]id:
You accuse someone of cheating, and you don't know jack about the car? Why don't we go dragging up someone extreme plexi roof, etc. Until you, or a dB DRA judge has taken a look and called it ex (and the top dB Drag boys in Aus called it SS), why not leave it be.
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I didn't see anywhere that Phil accused them of cheating, he said
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I was told that car is actually Extreme due to the modifications to the floor, roof and doors?
Phil
-------------------------------------------------posted by the[k]id:
If I was competing against you in street 1-2, and I had a battery hidden in the boot, would you not call that cheating? Same **** , competing in a different class than that which you qualify for, is cheating, and accusing someone of doing that, is accusing them of cheating.
Yes you would be cheating if you had a battery HIDDEN in the boot, but no where has Phil said they are cheating, all he said he was told that the car has mods in front of the A pillar, thus deming it to be in Extreme. Remember, Phil was TOLD!!!!
1337shiznit
Jan 11 2003, 12:36 AM
Ear bleeder, its simple, if you don't follow the rules, then it is cheating. If the car does not follow the rules of the class that it is competing in, then that is cheating.
Of course none of us are certified judges and very few of us have even seen the car in person, so anything we say is simply speculation.
DD Phil
Jan 11 2003, 12:40 AM
I didn't go to final battle 2002 so didn't see that car, I was told the car had roof and floor mods.
I was asking if this was the case, hence the question mark (?)
Phil
Ear bleeder
Jan 11 2003, 01:48 AM
QUOTE
originally posted by 1337shiznit:
Ear bleeder, its simple, if you don't follow the rules, then it is cheating. If the car does not follow the rules of the class that it is competing in, then that is cheating.
Of course none of us are certified judges and very few of us have even seen the car in person, so anything we say is simply speculation.
I do know what defines cheating.
And Phil was only asking if what he got told was true, does the car have mods to the door and roof etc in front of the B pillar, making it a extreme car, He didn't say it had mods, he was asking, hence the ??????????
how about back on topic, befor the Moderators delete every thing that isn't related to the topic
Anonymous
Jan 11 2003, 02:55 AM
i got the answers i needed and i rekon the topic is going from bad to worse as far as cheating *lol*
splbound
Jan 11 2003, 05:16 AM
If you are going to go all out like that car.. I doub't you'd stuff it up and not go in strict accordance to the rules... if you did well that would be just plain crazy??
But back to the question ... either amp would do you fine so stop yappin and start spendin !!!
the[K]id
Jan 11 2003, 04:43 PM
QUOTE
Originally posted by Incar Phil:
I didn't go to final battle 2002 so didn't see that car, I was told the car had roof and floor mods.
I was asking if this was the case, hence the question mark (?)
Phil
Well, since all the cars at nats were giving a look over, I'm guessing it was decided it complied with the rules.
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