Hey, Just looked on the caa sponser site and found ddauido.com
What do u guys think of these subs?
i came across this : http://www.ddaudio.com/caraudio/woofers.as...sp?series=9900a
$2000au
Im tring to work out what subs to put in my car.
Full Version: Digital Design Subs
your crazy ...... anything with DD on it will GO BOOM BOOOM BOOM !!!!!!!!!
and this is within your price range? perhaps start with something like the 3515.
the good BOOM BOOOM BOOM !!!!!!!!!
or the bad BOOM BOOOM BOOM !!!!!!!!!
??
or the bad BOOM BOOOM BOOM !!!!!!!!!
??
hey CHIEF , just realise you are on the gold coast too.
WHere on the coast are u?
WHere on the coast are u?
If you can afford these, and afford to power them, then go ahead!
The 9900 series are one of the best subs on the planlet without doubt.
They will take over 3000Wrms all day.
Even the way cheaper 3500 series can take all the power of a D2 or similar, they are incredible!
Phil
They will take over 3000Wrms all day.
Even the way cheaper 3500 series can take all the power of a D2 or similar, they are incredible!
Phil
So is the only "realworld" difference between the 3500's, 9500's, 9900's is it really only the power handling, or a hell of a lot more to it than that?
Like better quality materials, different baskets, motor structures, more magnets, etc???
Using my single 200DHC (2000RMS @ 1OHM?) would, say, 1000 WRMS per sub (3500,9500,9900 - either or...) be too little for any of the Digital Design products?? As in would there still be more amplifier power required to really get them going, or would 1KW be enuff?
Like better quality materials, different baskets, motor structures, more magnets, etc???
Using my single 200DHC (2000RMS @ 1OHM?) would, say, 1000 WRMS per sub (3500,9500,9900 - either or...) be too little for any of the Digital Design products?? As in would there still be more amplifier power required to really get them going, or would 1KW be enuff?
I can hear your brain clicking from here Timmy
Even the $349 2012 uses the same quality parts and hand-made consctruction as the 9515. This is what stands DD apart from the rest of the world. They don't make stripped down, baragin basement woofers. Every part used on every woofer is the best of it's kind available.
We're talking the same motor design, voice coil materials, spiders etc etc
As for power, even the 2515 15" ($649) will take 1000W all day, that said they are mega efficient. They will play loud off very little power.
Even time we try something new, these subs keep on surprising us! Forget what you thought you knew about subs!!
Phil
We're talking the same motor design, voice coil materials, spiders etc etc
As for power, even the 2515 15" ($649) will take 1000W all day, that said they are mega efficient. They will play loud off very little power.
Even time we try something new, these subs keep on surprising us! Forget what you thought you knew about subs!!
Phil
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Originally posted by Marc Rushton:
I can hear your brain clicking from here Timmy
LOLI can hear your brain clicking from here Timmy
Hardon - the 9515s and 9915s have both more useable excursion (not to be confused with linear xmax) as well as more motor strength. (resulting in a lower EBP - which in simple terms will allow the speaker to push more air through the ports in a larger (relative) enclosure.. Unfortunately if the EBP is too low then it is hard to get the speaker/enclosure to have a deep response without the response being peaky - but sacrifices must be made for SPL..)
1kw will still work fine, but the 9515s and 9915s can handle far more for SPL burps..
wow, all good reports.
Just some questions.
1) is this a spl sub?
2) what db should it pull in a 323 hatch, old boxy one.
3) The sub is more flat then normal subs, how can this be better?!?!?
Just some questions.
1) is this a spl sub?
2) what db should it pull in a 323 hatch, old boxy one.
3) The sub is more flat then normal subs, how can this be better?!?!?
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Originally posted by morgish:
wow, all good reports.
Just some questions.
1) is this a spl sub?
2) what db should it pull in a 323 hatch, old boxy one.
3) The sub is more flat then normal subs, how can this be better?!?!?
1)both spl and sqwow, all good reports.
Just some questions.
1) is this a spl sub?
2) what db should it pull in a 323 hatch, old boxy one.
3) The sub is more flat then normal subs, how can this be better?!?!?
2)how much power, what kind of box, wall?
3)what do you mean flat?
[ April 01, 2003, 15:20: Message edited by: CHIEF ]
1) yes, but will sound VERY good in the right enclosure...
2) How much power will you have? size box you can fit? how many batteries? And in a wall? or no?
Wall: 160dB
NW: 150dB All depending on power of course...
3) How do you mean flat?
2) How much power will you have? size box you can fit? how many batteries? And in a wall? or no?
Wall: 160dB
NW: 150dB All depending on power of course...
3) How do you mean flat?
maybe its just me.
but it looks flat :S
160db!!! CRAZY!! i love dd!
Ill get as much power as it can take.
batterys, there is room for more.
and wall?
how do u mean?
ill post a pic on now i -THINK- it should be, tell me if im wrong, im allawys open to constructive critizem
but it looks flat :S
160db!!! CRAZY!! i love dd!
Ill get as much power as it can take.
batterys, there is room for more.
and wall?
how do u mean?
ill post a pic on now i -THINK- it should be, tell me if im wrong, im allawys open to constructive critizem
sorry about the crappy drawing.
ask me if u dont understand anything on it.
Is that a wall ?
inprovements, suggestions?
bear in mind you will need to budget around $5k for amps to push 160, and no thats not a wall.
[ April 01, 2003, 15:43: Message edited by: CHIEF ]
[ April 01, 2003, 15:43: Message edited by: CHIEF ]
thats a wall, behind the b pillar (front seats). I reckon you could probably do it all for under $10k (batteries, install, amps, subs etc)
FARK!!
$10k for 1 sub setup
WHere on the gc are u?
$10k for 1 sub setup
WHere on the gc are u?
Benowa
well work it out, 9917 $2k, amps $5k, cabling box etc $??
yeah definately under 10k depends how far you want to go
well work it out, 9917 $2k, amps $5k, cabling box etc $??
yeah definately under 10k depends how far you want to go
Hrmm, good stuff. I know i can aford the sub.
But the rest. Might have to get a loan
Need my licence first.
[ April 01, 2003, 16:03: Message edited by: morgish ]
But the rest. Might have to get a loan
Need my licence first.
[ April 01, 2003, 16:03: Message edited by: morgish ]
[ April 01, 2003, 16:05: Message edited by: CHIEF ]
ok silly question but i have to ask
i have eq 200dhc which dd sub would be the best for spl ??
or i have 1000rms @2ohms x 2
which dd sub would be the best for spl
i have eq 200dhc which dd sub would be the best for spl ??
or i have 1000rms @2ohms x 2
which dd sub would be the best for spl
I think the 3500s is all that most people need unless they have over 1500rms per sub and the 3500s well take that for burps anyway.Some guy in the states put 2 bd1500's(round 3kw) on his 3500s with no probs.
I use a 3512 in my suzuki,on the weekend with 1 1000w amp in ss 1-2 did 145.1db on new mics.The driver seams very controlled at that,cant wait to get more power to it
http://www.canze.org.nz/forum/attachments/...or%20Suzi%2Ejpg
Pic of new set up(Larger box this time)
Clarkie
[ April 01, 2003, 18:33: Message edited by: Clarkie ]
I use a 3512 in my suzuki,on the weekend with 1 1000w amp in ss 1-2 did 145.1db on new mics.The driver seams very controlled at that,cant wait to get more power to it
http://www.canze.org.nz/forum/attachments/...or%20Suzi%2Ejpg
Pic of new set up(Larger box this time)
Clarkie
[ April 01, 2003, 18:33: Message edited by: Clarkie ]
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Originally posted by Clarkie:
I think the 3500s is all that most people need unless they have over 1500rms per sub and the 3500s well take that for burps anyway.Some guy in the states put 2 bd1500's(round 3kw) on his 3500s with no probs.
I use a 3512 in my suzuki,on the weekend with 1 1000w amp in ss 1-2 did 145.1db on new mics.The driver seams very controlled at that,cant wait to get more power to it
http://www.canze.org.nz/forum/attachments/...or%20Suzi%2Ejpg
Pic of new set up(Larger box this time)
Clarkie
danm thats a good score! nice adequately sized port
I think the 3500s is all that most people need unless they have over 1500rms per sub and the 3500s well take that for burps anyway.Some guy in the states put 2 bd1500's(round 3kw) on his 3500s with no probs.
I use a 3512 in my suzuki,on the weekend with 1 1000w amp in ss 1-2 did 145.1db on new mics.The driver seams very controlled at that,cant wait to get more power to it
http://www.canze.org.nz/forum/attachments/...or%20Suzi%2Ejpg
Pic of new set up(Larger box this time)
Clarkie
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Port!!!
Phil
Phil
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Originally posted by morgish:
Hey, Just looked on the caa sponser site and found ddauido.com
Don't want to stir anything up, but merely point out that DD are NOT a CAA Sponsor. Purely an Advertiser, there is a difference. Just to set the record straight
Hey, Just looked on the caa sponser site and found ddauido.com
PORT!
i love that box clarkie
Thanks for feed back guys
The first box I used was a spare out of the laser(pic below)which res at 62Hz in suzuki 142.5db approx.
The larger box was made for 4 12" kenwoods that didnt happen,so I pulled the top off made another for the one sub and cut a hole for the port in the back crx style(port screws in can be changed if needed)Tested on local mic tuesday cut port back 3 times too much made another tested on thursday cut back once and that was it.Plays much lower(res 47Hz)than first box and F#*KEN cranks for single 12".Would like to try a box round 4.5cuft but run out of time,my friend has a xtr2400 now that well get it cranking.
http://www.canze.org.nz/forum/attachments/...03512%20b%2Ejpg
Clarkie
[ April 02, 2003, 16:55: Message edited by: Clarkie ]
The first box I used was a spare out of the laser(pic below)which res at 62Hz in suzuki 142.5db approx.
The larger box was made for 4 12" kenwoods that didnt happen,so I pulled the top off made another for the one sub and cut a hole for the port in the back crx style(port screws in can be changed if needed)Tested on local mic tuesday cut port back 3 times too much made another tested on thursday cut back once and that was it.Plays much lower(res 47Hz)than first box and F#*KEN cranks for single 12".Would like to try a box round 4.5cuft but run out of time,my friend has a xtr2400 now that well get it cranking.
http://www.canze.org.nz/forum/attachments/...03512%20b%2Ejpg
Clarkie
[ April 02, 2003, 16:55: Message edited by: Clarkie ]
LOL, is that one of those mixing bowls you find out of a restaurant kitchen i see covering the old port???
Maybe
Clarkie
[ April 03, 2003, 15:48: Message edited by: Clarkie ]
Clarkie
[ April 03, 2003, 15:48: Message edited by: Clarkie ]
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how much is the DD9515 sub? i might be interetsed in buying one in the next month or 2.
~1200 give or take 100.
The RRP for the 9515 is $1349
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Originally posted by Bodyjar:
The RRP for the 9515 is $1349
ok give or take $149
The RRP for the 9515 is $1349
Not bad for a sub like that....
I was just looking at pics of the sub and it looks like DD have used the same die cast 4 spoke BASKET (excluding motor, just the frame)as my SPL160's, whis is the same basket as with a few other subs I've seen over the years.....
I was just looking at pics of the sub and it looks like DD have used the same die cast 4 spoke BASKET (excluding motor, just the frame)as my SPL160's, whis is the same basket as with a few other subs I've seen over the years.....
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Originally posted by hardon:
Not bad for a sub like that....
I was just looking at pics of the sub and it looks like DD have used the same die cast 4 spoke BASKET (excluding motor, just the frame)as my SPL160's, whis is the same basket as with a few other subs I've seen over the years.....
Alot of subs do. Beyond, RE, Adire, Rockford(use the same basket) as custom tooling for the baskets runs in the hundreads of thousands(US. And for all the above companys it is just too much and would raise the price on the woofers even more. So generic baskets, surrounds, voice coils, spider etc are used. But can be put togeather differently such that they all are different. Just because they built using same parts don't make them the same
Not bad for a sub like that....
I was just looking at pics of the sub and it looks like DD have used the same die cast 4 spoke BASKET (excluding motor, just the frame)as my SPL160's, whis is the same basket as with a few other subs I've seen over the years.....
Them and about a million other subwoofers use those baskets..
There's a ot of versions of those baskets as well. A lot of companies use the cheaper copies.
QUOTE: "generic baskets, surrounds, voice coils, spider etc are used"
Not on DD, every part is custom made for/by Digital Designs. EVERY woofer is 100% hand assembled in their factory.
A lot of those "other" companies have woofers built for them at places like TC and just slap their own stickers on. Again NOT DD!
Phil
QUOTE: "generic baskets, surrounds, voice coils, spider etc are used"
Not on DD, every part is custom made for/by Digital Designs. EVERY woofer is 100% hand assembled in their factory.
A lot of those "other" companies have woofers built for them at places like TC and just slap their own stickers on. Again NOT DD!
Phil
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