wich of these sub's in your opinion is the best for spl?
rockford fosgate power hx2 3112 (12 inch)
kicker solobaric l7 (12 inch)
just curious!!
Bodyjar
May 3 2003, 12:01 PM
Depends for what application? Street, I'd go the L7. Super Street, maybe go the RF purely cuz it can handle more power. But overall, I think the L7 is better.
Andu
May 3 2003, 12:02 PM
need I say?
DEF-YET
May 3 2003, 01:38 PM
L7 for sure!
SupraBOY
May 4 2003, 02:45 AM
just out of interest...... When i bought a 15" sub just recently for SPL. i asked about the RF subs.. The RF Rep told me they are more for SQ than SPL. and he recommended Lightning Audio. They are both made by the same manufacture.
unfortunately because i don't have my amp back yet (11 weeks and counting getting repaired) i have been unable to test my sub.
maybe thats worth some though???
zayne
May 3 2003, 05:56 PM
I just got a L7 15" hooked up today. Man these things pump hard, I had 2 15's goin and this absolutely kills the both of them put together.
vanboy
May 3 2003, 08:09 PM
is cool to be square.
i_am_maximo
May 4 2003, 07:37 PM
Square is cool....
Slider
May 4 2003, 08:20 PM
is square, is good
anybody have experencied the rf power hx2?
i can tell you this is a pure spl sub.
it can take 3000 wrms or plus to each coil
some people use 2 bd 1500 per coil(for burps only), each amp gets a 1 ohm load, bd 1500 is 2 ohms stable 1500wrms.
for sure not a sq sub. but is true the lightning audio can handle more power, but it sounds like sh***.
how much power can the l7 take?
for a street set up maybe the l7 gets louder, because the rf needs at least 1000wrms per coil to be burped in good conditions.
just for the record on last 3* multipoint event on germany team rf from spain(extreme 2 sub's) did 168db on the new mics with 2 power hx2 3115 and 8 bd 1500 amp. first place was rf too but im not sure about what gear did they use.
[ May 05, 2003, 09:07: Message edited by: loudluk ]
pig75
May 5 2003, 11:10 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by loudluk:
anybody have experencied the rf power hx2?
i can tell you this is a pure spl sub.
we got 2 rfr3115 and 4 D2 amps best score on a term lab was 148.9
[ May 05, 2003, 09:14: Message edited by: pig75 ]
Andu
May 5 2003, 11:31 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by loudluk:
anybody have experencied the rf power hx2?
i can tell you this is a pure spl sub.
it can take 3000 wrms or plus to each coil
some people use 2 bd 1500 per coil(for burps only), each amp gets a 1 ohm load, bd 1500 is 2 ohms stable 1500wrms.
for sure not a sq sub. but is true the lightning audio can handle more power, but it sounds like sh***.
how much power can the l7 take?
for a street set up maybe the l7 gets louder, because the rf needs at least 1000wrms per coil to be burped in good conditions.
just for the record on last 3* multipoint event on germany team rf from spain(extreme 2 sub's) did 168db on the new mics with 2 power hx2 3115 and 8 bd 1500 amp. first place was rf too but im not sure about what gear did they use.
Well what is your application then? Street or Super Street. But I have to agree. L7's are better for Street and HX2's for Super Street.
I'm running a D2 @ 1ohm for each of my 12" L7's although the 10,12,15 share a common motor. So the L7's will easily handle 2kw burps.
street- i will buy new sub's this week, what i realy want is digital designs 9512 but they are out of my budget. so i'm guessing i will buy the l7. still i'm a die hard RF fan. when i start watching spl(97) here in portugal RF rules.
i still belive that they are the best spl sub's in the world( excluding DD), but the new models needs tons of power just to move the big 4 inch voice coil.
if anybody want to sugest me another sub i will be apreciated.
there was not my intention to prove that kikcer was better or worse then rf.
Andu
May 6 2003, 09:30 AM
what about 3512's then?
do you think that the 3512 is better that the l7?
Andu
May 6 2003, 10:27 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by loudluk:
do you think that the 3512 is better that the l7?
no, but still a damn good sub is DD, is good. a little cheaper aswell I think.
[ May 06, 2003, 08:27: Message edited by: Andu ]
Bodyjar
May 6 2003, 04:51 PM
Nah, retail on the 3512 is $799...
but the only thing the L7 has going for it against the 3512 is the larger cone area...
claf_43
May 6 2003, 06:30 PM
someone may be selling a 15" l7 for a bargain price *cough* me *cough*
that will whopp both of them
DD Phil
May 6 2003, 07:32 PM
What are the loudest Street class cars using??
Phil
Tarwahh
May 6 2003, 07:41 PM
wouldnt be DD would it? lol
ripped
May 7 2003, 11:04 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by Incar Phil:
What are the loudest Street class cars using??
a bandpass box, 2 12's, lots of power, a car that resonants high, and lots of time for testing
Bassaholic
May 7 2003, 11:29 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by Incar Phil:
What are the loudest Street class cars using??
Phil
Loudest (certified) Street class car uses Treo.
Close behind are Kicker and DD..
Bodyjar
May 7 2003, 06:46 PM
Touche Holic
But on a whole, there are quite a few different types of subs being used to hit high numbers in street. I don't think any ONE brand is doing the best...
DD Phil
May 7 2003, 10:06 PM
Touche?
It was a question! I figured you dB nerds would know!!!! LOL
Phil
DD Phil
May 7 2003, 10:10 PM
Actually, after looking into it I found this out:
Tapani Haapamäki from Finland set a new World Record at the 3x point dB Drag Racing competitions in Tampere Finland April 27, 2003
153.5 dB
He beat the previous record by 2.2 dB !!!
Tapani uses a Fiat Panda, and was the world record holder last year in the Street 1-2 class.
Here are the products:
(2) Digital Designs 9512 1.5 ohm DVC´s in a bandpass enclosure.
(1) Orion XTR-PRO 2400 amplifier
Tapani tried also DeathMatch (average score for 2 minutes) and hit 150,4 dB which is an unofficial WR too.
Phil
[ May 07, 2003, 20:11: Message edited by: Incar Phil ]
toby123
May 8 2003, 02:43 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by Incar Phil:
Tapani tried also DeathMatch (average score for 2 minutes) and hit 150,4 dB which is an unofficial WR too.
Phil
How do they do that? A 2 minute long burp?
Bassaholic
May 8 2003, 04:00 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by Incar Phil:
Actually, after looking into it I found this out:
Tapani Haapamäki from Finland set a new World Record at the 3x point dB Drag Racing competitions in Tampere Finland April 27, 2003
153.5 dB
Markku Skantz's 154.4 is louder than 153.5..
I guess it takes a dB nerd to figure that out.
CHIEF
May 9 2003, 02:48 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by Bassaholic:
quote:
Originally posted by Incar Phil:
[b]Actually, after looking into it I found this out:
Tapani Haapamäki from Finland set a new World Record at the 3x point dB Drag Racing competitions in Tampere Finland April 27, 2003
153.5 dB
I guess it takes a dB nerd to figure that out.
Bassaholic
May 9 2003, 02:53 AM
But hey, its still street class.
CHIEF
May 9 2003, 02:56 AM
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