Guys..

as my sig says, i currently have a set of Dyn 240GT's running off an Audison LRx2.500..

i am tempted to go 3 way at the end of the year..

i would like to know which option is better for me as im a little confused..

Opt 1: Get a set of System 360 and run them off the LRx..
this is the cheaper option, and i get some return on my 240GT's..

Opt 2: Get a pair of MD140/2 midrange, a pair of X360A crossovers, and another LRx2.500..
- these crossovers split the power to the midrange and tweeters, high passed off an amp at 700 Hz..
- the current LRx2.500 to run the front midbass.. (200wrms each)
- the second LRx2.500 to run the highs.. (200wrms each)

i have an Alpine 9815, which can run the 2nd option without a problem..
front output - high passed at 700Hz for midrange/tweeter
rear output - high passed at 50Hz for the front midbass
sub output - low-passed to the subs naturally..

the mounting wont be a problem as i will be getting full custom door pods fitted to the VS, as well as power windows..

i have had various opinions thrown at me already, and the cost wont be such an issue as i will be saving for it (and an engagement ring)..
i'm looking at option 2 but i would like to hear what you guys have to say..

will adding a midrange (and another amp) to my current set of splits make that much difference that it will be justifiable with the amount of $$ i will be spending??
or would i be better of scrapping mine and getting a complete 3 way set..

or get something totally different??
or dont change anything??

i'm happy with the Dyn's and if i did change, they would have to be good and be able to compete with 1400wrms going to my 2 L7's..
i know its not a totally SQ setup, but its not far off..

i have 2 weeks to make up my mind.. please help..

I would get the Dyn360 and another LRX2.500 then split the RCA to both amps so R goes to 1 amp and L goes to the other to feed 700wrms or whatever they put out to each side.
hehehe

Would still work out cheaper than option 2 and you get the 8" 3 way set which are like the Ultimate Dyns..

Otherwise leave it as is.

yeah one amp per side!!!!

I'd upgrade to system 360's and just use your current amp to power them. 200wrms is plenty for the woofers to play loud.

You would want them high passed pretty low to keep up with ur subs anyway so 200wrms should be fine.

However remember than the midrange is 8ohm and some of the Dyn tweeters are too. So ur amp will not be putting out 200wrms, more like 100wrms, which isn't that much.

2 amps surely is overkill, 700wrms a side is way to much headroom wont even use half of it.

if you have money to burn (don't we all?? ) then go with as many amps as you can! in fact consider going 3-way and getting the LRx4.300 to combine with the 2.500 to run fully active. :shock:

this will probably offer as much power as you need, and provide excellent dynamics.

but, i'm with maz, in that just the 2.500 to run the passive 3-way setup should be more than adequate. any difference will only be slight. from memory, johnA ran his system360's from that very amp, and i remember it sounding excellent (aside from his dodgy stageheight issues! :wink: )

however, once the new morel elate splits are more readily available off the shelf, i suspect a few of us may have morel-envy!

hmmm...

i was mentioning the 2nd LRx as i can get it at a good price..

i think i may be waiting for the new Elates to come out i think..
im even tempted to try some Rainbow 2/3 ways also..

thanx for your replies guys.. may stick with the current setup and change later. if i want to..
thanx Richard, i knew i could count on you for an honest reply..

Off topic but im waiting for the Morel Elate 9inch 3ways

Wanna have a listen first though. I put speakers into winisd and they dont even look like they suit the doors have a Qtc of like 0.3 when running in a 200litre sealed box.

if you are going to the effort of mounting the dyn md140 midrange in custom door pods, please experiment with the positioning there before you pay the dollars to get the pods done.

I'm not familiar with your car, but if the midrange is positioned incorrectly (more so with a 3 way setup), you could make things worse for you.

sometimes keeping it simple may get you better results.

think about it...money for door pods, another high end amp, more high end speakers...does add up to a fair bit especially when you don't hear them first before you place them there.
a lot of if's...

i've said it a few times the last few days, midrange is critical (and pathlengths)...i just found out
if you think about it, using TA to fix up staging wouldn't really work...

i leave it with you anyway Damo

I would definately go for the Dyn 360's off the single amp. The dyn passive crossover is excellent, and 200W is all the power you'll ever need for them.

I'm currently also running 240GT's off an LRx2.500, and I will be changing over to 8" dyns soon.

The 8"'s have quite a lower bass extension, so you can use a lower HPF point = more upfront bass.

I don't think just adding a midrange to the 240GT's will help you much, because the MW160GT woofer already has an excellent midrange response.

Oh yeah, Maz, I modelled the new Morel Elate drivers, and they don't seem to have much bass extension for a 9-inch driver, it has an f3 of only about 80Hz in a typical door cavity. I guess cabin gain would help a bit, but it seems a bit lacking compared to the Dyn 8" with an f3 of about 55hz...

good point about the midrange there carl.. i think i will be sticking with basic 2 ways..

my 240Gt's are running great with a HPF of 50Hz..

i will be keeping hte current setup i think..

i only had a crazy idea and wanted to know some opinions..

off topic.. how much are the PG Elite 9" 3-ways??

id keep the woofers, sell the tweeter and crossover, and get urself a pair of dynaudio esotar tweeters wif the x280 crossover
mind you they arnet the easiest tweeters to install (note bloody huge) but would still be easier than getting a tweet and midrange in the kicks and getting the imaging rite. id stay simple and go 2way.

as mentioned, unless you're willin got do an extreme setup (or you're very lucky) a 3 way system will be detrimental to your imaging.

when done properly the results can be fantastic!

there's no such thing as enough power.
i'm running 2X230WRMSto my fronts and i wish i had more.

i'd put all your money towards those hairdriers

Hehehe - yeah I'm with adam - maybe not on the hairdriers - but the cost / benefit on upgrading your front stage doesn't add up for me

I'd be doing upgrades on another area of the car - before upgrading the already excellent Dyn 2 ways