So true i had a listen to the clarion and well it sounded a bit plain but after the salesman cameover i had a little play with some setings and it sounded much better to me.
but i can't afford a big mack even at the minute. So i am trying to save my pennies. Might be a few months of before i even get anything.
I just wanted to see what some people thaught of the unit. Because my mate has a pioneer 9450 and he is so pioneeer loyal it is not funny. but anyway we have arguments on what is better alot. and hes trying to tell me that his is the best thing on earth, and i laughed at him....

i think he is a lost cause.