Hi i am wondering wich set of splits should i install for the front stage into my car Alpine type R or the jaycar yellow cone ones both 6.5"

Which sound better to you and that you can afford ?

Answer that question and you will have the answer to your original question.

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I have to agree. Use your ears to decide.

However, the alpines are nearly 3 times the price of the response kevlars, so IMHO they'd have to sound a lot nicer to justify the extra cost.

Well I reckon the Type Rs are very poor espesially for the price so the jaycars would have to be better.

try focal access series splits their ok
but hav a listen to all in the price bracket

did anyone actually think to ask Boom what music he listens to? how can we (professionals) recommend speakers if we don't know what music Boom listens to. recommendations are made with the knowledge of music type/s. there is no one speaker brand or model that will reproduce every genre well... think guys

The thing is i own both of these but havent had time to have a good listen to them because my amp died a while ago and i havent had time or cash to buy another one.
I listen to alot of dance and Rap rnb and modern greek at times which is similar to dance.

I find it hard to believe Jaycar is even being pitched against Alpine....

FWIW I dont find the SPR-176As (ie the type R splits) harsh. Overpriced yes, but the sounds pretty well balanced.

If you do get the Jaycars, let us know how it sounds.

I got the kelvar cones and the tweeter is super harsh.. I feel..

I don't find the kevlar setup tweeters particularily harsh, but then i don't have them really on axis.

i like type R myself... not a bad sound...

I found the type R's much better than the jaycars they where much more balanced as a componant set and the tweeter on the Jaycars was a bit too harsh.

I dislike the Alpines....I find that both the bass and treble is too harsh on the Type-R's.

The Jaycars, IMO, sound much more than they cost. I listened to them on the demo board and I agree with everyone who's said (time and time again) that they sound warm, although I don't mind that. I don't think the tweeters are too harsh and the midbass I reckon is pretty good. Honestly, I would definately not get the Type-R's. Been there done that and I say I dislike Alpine speakers and am 100 times more happy with my VDO splits than with the Alpines.

Have you heard jaycar speakers? I haven't heard their splits, but their coaxials are extremely impressive for the price... I've heard the Type R's are particuarly great sounding speakers (although I havent heard them myself).

In my old car (XF) I was running 4inch response coaxes in the front (dash) and response 6x9's rear, running straight off the deck. Alot of people were pretty darn surprised how good they sounded. I have friends with pioneer, kenwood, sony, etc (althought admittedly, not alpine) and it's no exhageration to say that they didnt even come close to the response. The xf actually had small enclosures in the dash , which helped the sound also, but it really did sound quite sweet.

When I got my laser, I had to get some slim 6 inchers as a temporary solution ($100 pioneer 6 inchers). The 4 inch response speakers cost me the same, but sound a thousand times better, go louder without distortion, and actually have higher power handling ! (40rms-jaycar vs 30rms-pioneer).

After hearing the quality of their fairly cheap coaxials, Id imagine that their kevlar splits would sound very good .. although I cant vouch for that from experience.

I can only suggest to not think of response as 'cheap and nasty' unless youve heard them (i'm not saying you haven't, but just in case u haven't).

I personally doubt Alpine make any speakers for under $200 that sound as good as any of Response's coaxials.

Correct me if im wrong, as I could be, but I can't imagine it.

I miss those speakers... *sob*

Simply said, Alpine speakers are over-priced and over-rated...whereas Jaycar gear is well-priced and under-rated.....

Response tweeters are not super harsh, in my opinion. But as someone's mentioned above, why not try the Focal Access? Focal have a great reputation.....

I've got a set of the Response Kevlars in my '91 Ford Laser at the moment. Considering I just did a very budget setup, I was really suprised at the sound. I certainly don't find the tweeters too harsh and they put out a decent midbass which is quite warm. Mine are amped (Coustic 421QE) so I guess that might make them sound a little better. They don't produce much low down bass but that's not a problem for me as I have a sub. So overall I am really happy with them, decent sound accross a wide range of music genres for a cheap price. Just remember that they are a $160 set of splits, so don't expect them to be on par with $400 to $500 splits, but they do provide great value for money.

That said I haven't heard the Alpines or many other splits for that matter but what speakers you choose are personal preference, what sounds great to some might sound medicore to others. Go out, have a listen to what you can afford and choose what sounds best to you.

Good Luck,
wallacedom

the old DDDrives are good and the SPX-177A's are even better. cant wait for the newer Type X's

Trav

I've got a dodgy KE laser and I was looking for a stop-gap mesure for an upgrade from factory (old lady owned it prior to me) to at least something.

I had access to a pair of Alpine 4" and Jaycar's pair of 4", both around (at the time) $120 for the pair.

It was interesting..... overall, the Jaycars sounded cleaner and better than the alpines most sony/pioneer 6" in the $100-$200, for anything above mid-bass.

However, there was nothing down low, not that that was unexpected, even less than what was coming from the alpine.

I ran a test with two friends of mine where I had the alpine in the left and the jaycar in the right (yes, I know the crapty postion of the factory pods) and both went the Jaycars.

Overall, it was a pleasant suprise. For the price, the Jaycars were quite good. Of course, they'll never compete against anything ten times the price

Must be the old coaxials that you are talking about which, a lot of members have said, are very very good....

Just goes to show that brand is not everything (although sometimes it is a good indication).

nothing special about either brand...

I agree, both are pretty standard.

Why do threads like this exist - we all know it's an 'each to their own' thing - everyone's ears, cars, music preferences and applications are all different. At least compare apples with apples *read models with models* !

We have these threads because, even though different people like different things, at least, to some extent people on these forums can provide some guidance.

For instance, we can comment on the particular characteristics of the speakers. We can tell them whether the speaker leans more towards SQ or SPL etc.. etc... All of which are key factors in narrowing down the list of potential speakers.

Another reason these threads exist, is because sometimes people are unable to listen to the speakers they're considering before they buy them.

Back on topic though, I didn't like the Alpine Type Rs much at all, & that was compared to the old Jaycar XL series, which retailed for $120 or so. I didn't think the sound the Alpine's produced was very well defined, nor were the tweeters very pleasing to my ear. I actually had an argument with a salesman over why I liked speakers less than 3 times the price more, not impressed :x.

I did find though, that the Jaycar tweeters were best mounted in the kicks. Being a little off axis, & much further from the ears they weren't quite as bright.

Good Luck, and we'll see you again when you decide to upgrade :wink: j/k.

Not to worry blokes, nevermind

On topic - Was happy with old DDC-R17H 2 way Alpines once upon a time...wasn't overly impressed with the Type R's and swayed to Utopia 165W3's...would recommend 'boom' demo some polyglass or even access splits (heck, even coaxs!) before going the jaycars - well the difference to me was clear...but as per everything, it depends on application - the jaycars have good power handling / the alp tweets are a bit bright for me...even off axis.

Cheers,
Steve

paul graham who was the old gate installer from alpine actually told me that the type R's are really just made to play loud not for SQ at all.they do sound pretty good in the doors of my vs but.So each to there own

For the price of TYpe-R,s you can purchase a set of MB QUART 6.5 inch discuss split system, which would blow away type 3 and jaycar splits.

Wouldn't be surprised....my old Type-R's were "boomy" more than anything...I hated them.

HighPingBastard seems to have a chip on his shoulder concerning alpine. I have some Type - R splits and think they sound great. Just give both a listen, reassess your financial situation and make a decision. You may like the jaycar better then the alpines which will save you some $$

good luck on your purchace