What is point of these?
are they jsut tweeters?
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They are super efficient speakers so very little amp power is required, this means that you can easily have plenty of headroom for them.
Horns also play lower frequencies a lot better than conventional tweeters, a lot of horns will play well below 1khz which is something few tweeters do.
Horns also play lower frequencies a lot better than conventional tweeters, a lot of horns will play well below 1khz which is something few tweeters do.
Has anyone got a pic of them in their car they could post, I dont really understand where they go/what they look like. The only pics ive seen only show like the back of the horn (I think)
Horns are a lot easier to get a very good center image with and are able to disperse sound a lot better than tweeters and midranges.
Horns are usually installed under the dash or in the dash itself, lengthwise, facing towards the back of the car.
Horns are usually installed under the dash or in the dash itself, lengthwise, facing towards the back of the car.
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Has anyone got a pic of them in their car they could post, I dont really understand where they go/what they look like. The only pics ive seen only show like the back of the horn (I think)
pics -> http://www.caraudioaustralia.com/forums/sh...ead.php?t=42122
Everyone who's had a good listen to my car will be purchasing horns 
The difference is unreal, the horns clearly play down to 1000hz and with 100db sensitivity they only need 20wrms to go louder than most convential tweeters.
Dump 100wrms into them, and no car tweeter i've ever seen will be able to compete volume wise.
The difference is unreal, the horns clearly play down to 1000hz and with 100db sensitivity they only need 20wrms to go louder than most convential tweeters.
Dump 100wrms into them, and no car tweeter i've ever seen will be able to compete volume wise.
whats the cost on a set on horns?
FHRX has the prices on the ID Horns at $650 for entry, $1000 for their mid-range and $2000 for their comp horns. They also retail with a midrange driver and crossover if you want the whole package.
daaaammnn 
not cheap..
not cheap..
You might be better off looking at PA/Home audio horns if car audio ones are that expensive.
You could, although the impedance difference wouldn't be all that good. As is most horns are rated around 8 Ohm (correct if wrong???). The impedance of home/PA audio horns is likely to be much greater.
That, and the frequency response and sound reproduction isn't that crash hot in many of the lower range PA/Home audio horns for much the same reason that these qualities arn't good in the lower range Car Audio horns
That, and the frequency response and sound reproduction isn't that crash hot in many of the lower range PA/Home audio horns for much the same reason that these qualities arn't good in the lower range Car Audio horns
I agree that horn is an awesome "speaker"... some horns requred small amount of power but some horns required lots of power. Just like the ID Comp Horn requires around 150watts... with this horn, you wouldn't worried about the staging and imaging as they are very neat... IMO, the selection of amplifier, cables and midbass are crucial... need a trial and error process...
The horn goes under the dashboard... some might found out that the staging is too low... you need additional ambient tweeter to pull out the staging... not all tweeters will do...
Horn, required a long trial and error processes... the horn itself need around 100 hours to break in... and before the break in process is completed, the horn sounds SH**... and one more thing about horn, it is damn hard to beat horn during competition... but if you listen the horn for more than 30minutes or so, your ear getting tired...
The horn goes under the dashboard... some might found out that the staging is too low... you need additional ambient tweeter to pull out the staging... not all tweeters will do...
Horn, required a long trial and error processes... the horn itself need around 100 hours to break in... and before the break in process is completed, the horn sounds SH**... and one more thing about horn, it is damn hard to beat horn during competition... but if you listen the horn for more than 30minutes or so, your ear getting tired...
just some quick questions added on to this topic... sorry to high jack your thread
are horns usually added in with tweeters or are the tweeters replaced by horns.... also would it be beneficial at all to use both???
also why would your ears hurt... too bright or what??/
one more thing why faced towards the back of your car and not ears???
are horns usually added in with tweeters or are the tweeters replaced by horns.... also would it be beneficial at all to use both???
also why would your ears hurt... too bright or what??/
one more thing why faced towards the back of your car and not ears???
henrysutrisno is just going by hearsay. If the horns are producing the same frequencies your ears wont get tired, unless its louder etc.
Hard process to install, i installed my horns in a day, and they sound excellent right off the bat. My mates have been in the car and dont even notice that i have them installed until i tell them where to look.
Hard process to install, i installed my horns in a day, and they sound excellent right off the bat. My mates have been in the car and dont even notice that i have them installed until i tell them where to look.
are horns what they use to reproduce high frequencys at things like raves? ive heard a few systems at big drum & bass events and the treble is so clear and ridiculously loud. that would be kickass in a car
Yes disorder, they are mainly used in PA audio and are used to reproduce the high to mid range frequencies. And they go hard in the car!
Tyson - Horns aren't really "added" to your current system per se. I am sure that you could try and incorperate them but you really have to re-think your entire system. Because they are so efficient and play much lower than a regular tweeter you aren't going to find a passive Xover that will suit them. (*Unless you purchase say the ID front stage pack which has a horn, passive xover and midbass, but again that is an entire front stage change)
And as most people with 2way front stages only run 6.5" midbasses (or even 7") then you would likely replace this speaker once you installed your horns as the horns can play well into that range.
The reason your ears may hurt is cause you play them way too loud (which is easy to do because they are so efficient) or you haven't EQ'd them properly.
As for the way you mount them, they are mounted under your dash facing towards you (towards the boot or back of the car). So they are pointed at your ears to a certain extent although unlike conventional tweeters there isn't the on/off avis problems associated with "pointing" them at your ears.
Tyson - Horns aren't really "added" to your current system per se. I am sure that you could try and incorperate them but you really have to re-think your entire system. Because they are so efficient and play much lower than a regular tweeter you aren't going to find a passive Xover that will suit them. (*Unless you purchase say the ID front stage pack which has a horn, passive xover and midbass, but again that is an entire front stage change)
And as most people with 2way front stages only run 6.5" midbasses (or even 7") then you would likely replace this speaker once you installed your horns as the horns can play well into that range.
The reason your ears may hurt is cause you play them way too loud (which is easy to do because they are so efficient) or you haven't EQ'd them properly.
As for the way you mount them, they are mounted under your dash facing towards you (towards the boot or back of the car). So they are pointed at your ears to a certain extent although unlike conventional tweeters there isn't the on/off avis problems associated with "pointing" them at your ears.
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It depends on what sort of car and what sort of horns... sometime you need to take off the under part of the dashboard to make it looks neat... the driver is one thing as well... its quite big...
IMO, horn doesn't sound mellow... its rough and bright... that's the reason why i feel tired while listening to those horns for quite some time... amps like Audison and Tru Tech is my top recommendation to tame the Horn... i won't say that any other amps aren't good... but for my experience, Audison and TruTech really match the Horns very well...
Tuning the horn is one thing as well... it is not as easy as you might think... it took me almost a week to tune those USD horns... I powered the horn actively with a separate amp from the midbass and the tweeter... as i am running passive for those midbass and tweeter, i need to find the right components to blend the speakers and the horns nicely... the mid that i used is lower range scanspeak and mix them with lower range Diva tweeter...
If you said that it took you only a day to install and tune your horn and it sounds excellent right off the bat, you are an awesome tuner... as IMO it needs a very long trial and error process...
It depends on what sort of car and what sort of horns... sometime you need to take off the under part of the dashboard to make it looks neat... the driver is one thing as well... its quite big...
IMO, horn doesn't sound mellow... its rough and bright... that's the reason why i feel tired while listening to those horns for quite some time... amps like Audison and Tru Tech is my top recommendation to tame the Horn... i won't say that any other amps aren't good... but for my experience, Audison and TruTech really match the Horns very well...
Tuning the horn is one thing as well... it is not as easy as you might think... it took me almost a week to tune those USD horns... I powered the horn actively with a separate amp from the midbass and the tweeter... as i am running passive for those midbass and tweeter, i need to find the right components to blend the speakers and the horns nicely... the mid that i used is lower range scanspeak and mix them with lower range Diva tweeter...
If you said that it took you only a day to install and tune your horn and it sounds excellent right off the bat, you are an awesome tuner... as IMO it needs a very long trial and error process...
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