I've decided to re-wire my system with a hi-end cables. At the moment i'm using Tributaris RCA and Kimber Cable Speaker Wire. I'm happy with them but with those cables, i wouldn't get the most potential of my system. At first, i decided to go for CARDAS for the RCA cables and Tributaris Flat Series for the speakers. However, the CARDAS distributor in Indonesia have given up the distributorship. The demand from the headquarter is too high. Can anyone recommend me any RCAs???

For speaker cables, i might stick with the Tributaris or maybe i'll go for the Audioquest flat wire.

BTW, here is my system spec:
Headunit: Denon DCT-1
Tweeter: Scanspeak R2904/7000
Midbass: Scanspeak Revelator 5"
Amplifier: TruTech T03 4.150
Custom 12" Passive Crossover (Jensen Oil Caps, Mcap and Cross Coil)
Rear speaker: Phase Linear PC Series
Amplifier: ARC Audio 2500XXK
Subwoofer: Image Dynamics IDMAX 12" D4
Amplifier: ARC Audio 2500XXK

Cheers...

Do you want to spend real money?

This is what I use.... KIMBER Hero

"An analog interconnect based on proven KIMBER KABLE technologies and design goals. Hero features our advanced GyroQuadratic™ field geometry. • GyroQuadratic field geometry • Hyper-pure copper • Varistrand™ • Dual Teflon™ insulating technology • Terminated with WBTâ RCA or “studio grade” XLR connectors with silver plated contacts Hero draws you into the music by correctly presenting the harmonic structure and emotion of the actual performance, as well as giving you holographic imaging, detail and bass impact."

I used Kimber a while ago... but the silver one... very very dry... any other options???

Tara Labs .... HAve you heard these Henry? The ones I used in my car were the ISM Prism3's

ISM Onboard The 3™ should be used for:
• High-end to superior quality high-resolution audio and home theater systems
• Any environment where high levels of RFI/EMI exist

The last line is what you should take particular note of...It really does eliminate any noise pickup you may get in your car

Aerpro double shielded, about $30 for 5 metres.

Reply to iconnx:
I've heard Taralabs but not as popular as those Kimber, Audioquest and Chord... What do you think of Tributaris???

Reply to Immo G:
Never heard Aerpro before... but i'll find out...

If you like the sonic signature of silver go for audioquest sky or cheetar, totally transparent. If not try audioquest panther they are in pure copper.

As for speaker cable I use audioquest Mont Blanc, from amp to cross-over. I use chord odessy 4 from cross-over to the speaker.

I've been using the Ixos Gamma geometry range of cables/interconnects on the home rig for about 2 years now. Awesome detail at a reasonable price

You got to be KIDDING its a car . IVE USED KIMBER triple silver both home and car and KNOWONE has been able to tell the difference ! I settled with 10 cent/meter interconnect beter than $400 / meter kimber. When you have a car that impresses me i'll be glad to rewire your whole system in kimber at my cost! THE EASIEST TRACK TO SEE ACCURACY AND WIDTH IS A TRACK WITH 7 SNEAR BEATS.

I was waiting for your post

Here we go again. Cable bitchery ::

$400/metre? you gotta be s***ing me........ people actually PAY that kinda $$?

Thats cheap. I've seen $5000 p/m.

I'm not even getting involved in this one. You all know my views on the bollocks that is 'high end' cables... see my sig...

damn! for $500p/m ill come out and bless them with my man juice and sprinkle some fairy dust on them.....

i cant belive you guy's waste so much money on this ****!

go buy a house, invest in share's. dont go paying ****loads for cables for a car.

i like the tara labs stuff

but not sure how anyone could justify the price of there hi-end cables in the car.

i just use stinger custom pro series 12gauge wire...since it looks cool

and stinger helix rcas....because i love the red.

how does this stuff sound in the car opposed to high end esoteric cables...not sure and it doesnt matter. there are more important things to spend on in the car audio system. Speaker angles custom pods sound-deadening eq'ing...this all costs lots of money and have extremely big benefits to the sq of the car system.

Once you have the system "perfect" then maybe look at esoteric cables, but for that price id say a fully custom dash would be a lot better for imaging and soundstage height. Have a quick look at the european sq cars using dls speakers and amps. They setup the mids tweeters and midbass above or in the dash.

And all this is thrown out the window when you turn the key...

i have heard the difference, and the difference was still noticeable when driving.
this was between $20 cables and $200 cables.

/me yawns

*cough* Monster Cables *cough* :wink:

nuf said

Reply to angelo kanci:
I believe that cable makes differences in sound... i used to wire my speakers with Monster Cable and changed to Kimber and it makes a huge differences... and really, i can tell the differences...

I'm not sure if you are the real angelo kanci tho, but if you are lots of ppl said that you have a nice pair of custom veritas horn with radian driver... well if that's true, i don't really have a car to impress you... but if the rumour is wrong, come to Jakarta if you are free, i have a car to impress you...

BTW, the hotel is at my cost...

So you have heard the difference in a double blind test, with a statistically relevant number of trials?

I'm not saying you can't hear the difference, I'm only asking if you have heard the difference in a real test.....

Can some one please do an RTA comparison between these supposed wanky cables and the cheap ones. So when the results come in showing insignificant differences over the small audible frequency bandwitdh, we can put this annoying debate to bed and i can sell home made cables to gullible people for 100x the manufacturing price.

Doesnt work, you can never 'prove' that there is no cable effects to people who want to beleive it... its like religion, you cant disprove religion simply because religious people beleive all scientific proof is irrelevant...

Now i hope i dont get flamed for this, and i am NOT trying to be racist or cause any source of division, but : Why are the biggest proponents of cabling having an effect usually of Asian descent? Its not just on these forums, its in the USA and so on, most of the extremely vocal 'cable sound' proponents are of Asian descent as well...

...Its like the father of my Malaysian friend, he paid out (against my advice) for some speaker cables that were patently and quite visibly just two 8AWG power wires wrapped in fancy heatshrink, cost maybe $10, and he paid $1500 for them... but he swears they are better, even when i showed him he couldnt pick the difference between that and his old cables in a blind test...

Again, i'm NOT trying to be racist, but its just something i've always noticed, is it a cultural thing or something?

Stinger's tha shyte!

This really shows how gullible you are. If it can be prove by an RTA you will be one of them buying too. And don't forget to place the speaker cable facing North East. It will sound better.

LOL

But this should be different to religion - it can be proven with proper listening tests.

Religion can't be conclusively proven either way, so I sit on the agnostic fence........

I really don't see how suggesting an experiment which doesn't rely on people circling a number between 1 and 10 makes me gullible?

An RTA comparison would require analysis - and this can be difficult if you do not know exactly what differences the ear can and cannot hear. So a more scientific test would include the analysis of the frequency response of the cables and the double blind listening tests.

I am of course assuming that the signal will be analyzed after the source unit, before the amp...

I'm not the biggest fan of RTA testing of the frequency response of the speakers inside a car because it isn't exactly a minimum phase environment...

Does anyone else get the irony of that coming from someone who beleives cables can be directional? :hehe:

Wire Less Speaker
Hahahahaha

Good idea there, I was about to say that too, ahahahaha

Reply to bassahollic:
I wired my system with monster cable and after a while, i changed to Kimber cable... without changing the tuning and i can tell the differences between them... compare to the monster, kimber produced more detail and clearity sound... but it also make it a lil bit dry...

The second trial is on my friends car... he used to have monster speaker cables and the A&T custom RCAs in his car... after a while, he decided to change to Tributaris flat speaker cables and the cardas RCA... the differences between them are noticable...

Reply to snm:
I never done the RTA comparison so i wouldn't be able to tell you...

Reply to Blackrazor:
There is nothing to do with cultural things... some ppl might say cable is cable, what is the different... but for me, cables make a huge differences... tell me if you can't tell the different between a normal speaker cables and flat speaker cables... not only in car audio but also in home audio... but then, changing the cable doesn't always mean to be changing into the more expensive cable... when it comes into cables, you have to go through the trial and error process... some system might sound better with a cheaper cables but some system might not...

$5 THOUSAND????? PER METRE????? you've gotta be kidding...... what kind of person would pay that much for a metre of the damned stuff, and whats so special about it??

and what are we supposed to be looking at in your sig?

er in indonesia some guy buy $10000/m in US dollar not OZ dollar

Thats gullible!!!!

Okay guys, back to the topic... what cables that might suit my system???

Are you looking for the RCA cable, or the connector? If it's the connector, I use WBT. I paid a bit more expensive for it, compared to CARDAS. Try to look in Audiozone, west of Jakarta. I got it from there around a year ago.

And yeah.. I'm one of those people whose believe that cables would make a change on your system. I used stinger expert series before, and the difference is noticeable.

Whichever ones you convince yourself will sound better Henry, because the differences only exist in your head.

I'm looking for the RCAs cable... i'm using tributaris RCA atm with WBT connector...

I'm the one Angelo Kanci. I've also build my home system and have droppeddddddddddddddd a lot of jaws in the home system. Blind tests couldn't tell the differences Or WHAT SPEAKERS I WAS USING ! Total recoil are my drivers and in blind testing people thought i had JM labs $150,000.Work commitments may be next year.

Heres a thought guys. Why worry about connectors ? Solder straight on the circuit boards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! USE CHEAP WIRE ! and i'll bet it will be better due to fact that there will be less resistance ?! TAUGHT TO ME BUY A REAL PROFESSIONAL. QUESS what did i do that ? YEP . WBT connectors $220 a pair. Needed 20 pairs . Thats nearly $5000 . Professional electronics guru $ 500 / day with garentee. what a saving . Better equipment. :idea: :smack: :eek:

Did someone says he is not getting involve in this one.

My god how ridiculous for that sort of money I'd be suprised if it wouldn't be possible to use liquid nitrogen cooled superconductors!!

if you think changing the cables make's a huge difference, try changing the speakers!!!!

biggest differnce you can make you want a warmer sound, look for speakers that are warmer, cheeper than $500p/m cables!!

change the things that make the most difference, seems more logical than changing the thing that make's the least amount of difference??

I'm curious what speakers these people with super expensive cables run? I'm willing to bet nothing superiour to Dyn 240GTs or Focal utopias.

Correct ! I would rather have made custom speakers than spend money on cable. AT LEAST YOU CAN HEAR THE DIFFERENCE ! :eek: :thumb:

But you guys haven't yet heard my Tubifier™ speaker cables.

Guaranteed to make any hi-fi audio amp sound like a tube amplifier.

What it is is a little box with what looks to be a tube on the top. Now the Tubifier™ has a heating element in it (a resistor :wink: ) that lights up when you send a signal through it. It comes in several different power handling versions.

Make sure the rca's run downhill too, its aids current flow.

SQ me. This thread is which cable to go for. Not change speaker.

... and if possible, oriented facing directly South. That way the electrons will flow in sympathy with the earths magnetic field, decreasing resistance in the cable and leading to a more open, expansive soundstage, with a breathtaking increase in dynamics...

And while you're there, get in touch with me for your solid beech volume knob for your car stereo, guaranteed to make your music more lively and detailed... and if you just hang this crystal from your rearview mirror, it will absorb the evil sonic impurity spirits, leaving only the good spirits in the music, and the huge difference that makes is something we are ALL familiar with...