A XXX 12" sealed in a .8cuft box as per specs of RE would be powered sufficiently with what wattage?
I'm kinda confused with the thermal power rating and all, so please enlighten.
You think an audison vrx1.500 is overkill?
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Hi guys,
A XXX 12" sealed in a .8cuft box as per specs of RE would be powered sufficiently with what wattage?
I'm kinda confused with the thermal power rating and all, so please enlighten.
You think an audison vrx1.500 is overkill?
A XXX 12" sealed in a .8cuft box as per specs of RE would be powered sufficiently with what wattage?
I'm kinda confused with the thermal power rating and all, so please enlighten.
You think an audison vrx1.500 is overkill?
Lots, a VRX1.500 would be fine
It will be fine, XXX12 would be good with a pair of VRx1.500s strapped
All good and well, but what coil configuration are you thinking of running it?
1ohm?
2ohm?
4ohm?
1ohm?
2ohm?
4ohm?
QUOTE (stormyweather)
Hi guys,
A XXX 12" sealed in a .8cuft box as per specs of RE would be powered sufficiently with what wattage?
I'm kinda confused with the thermal power rating and all, so please enlighten.
You think an audison vrx1.500 is overkill?
A XXX 12" sealed in a .8cuft box as per specs of RE would be powered sufficiently with what wattage?
I'm kinda confused with the thermal power rating and all, so please enlighten.
You think an audison vrx1.500 is overkill?
the RE SX sounds just as good as the XXX up to 1kw,
so there's not much point owning a XXX unless you've got at least 1kw, (or intend to have 1kw+ soon)
the VRx1.500 will power it nicely, the XXX's come as dual ohm, and the VRx provides 2kw at 1ohm.
NUTTTR is powering his XXX12 from his VRx1.500 and it's tastey!
it can still handle more power,
so there's not much point owning a XXX unless you've got at least 1kw, (or intend to have 1kw+ soon)
the VRx1.500 will power it nicely, the XXX's come as dual ohm, and the VRx provides 2kw at 1ohm.
NUTTTR is powering his XXX12 from his VRx1.500 and it's tastey!
it can still handle more power,
great stuff guys!
icacha, the standard dual 2 seems ok. audison specs are all good even for a 1 ohm impedance - 2000watts, as mrbob did mention.
mrbob, i'm intrigued by 'tastey' , can you describe this a bit more? is it like an spl tastey kind of thing or, it's still most definitely sq?
ey thanks for all your inputs.
icacha, the standard dual 2 seems ok. audison specs are all good even for a 1 ohm impedance - 2000watts, as mrbob did mention.
mrbob, i'm intrigued by 'tastey'
, can you describe this a bit more? is it like an spl tastey kind of thing or, it's still most definitely sq?
ey thanks for all your inputs.
NUTTTR's is what i'd call a loud SQ setup, from memory it's a 1.8cuft box tuned to 32Hz, it hits you in the chest, hard and crisp.
when he has it at a volume that blends with his front stage, it sound incredible, evident by his CAASQ score at the finals last year.
I think NUTTTR could benefit by tuning the box lower, more like 26Hz.
personally, i think it sounds slightly better in a sealed box, but you forfeit outright output.
my XXX10 makes plenty of output for me in the sealed box, and i'm a self confessed bass junkie it's powered by a Tru Hammer which have been independantly tested at 2700WRMS.
when he has it at a volume that blends with his front stage, it sound incredible, evident by his CAASQ score at the finals last year.
I think NUTTTR could benefit by tuning the box lower, more like 26Hz.
personally, i think it sounds slightly better in a sealed box, but you forfeit outright output.
my XXX10 makes plenty of output for me in the sealed box, and i'm a self confessed bass junkie
it's powered by a Tru Hammer which have been independantly tested at 2700WRMS.
that's a lot of power alright. don't them subs drown your front stage?
it could if i wanted it to, but for SQ purposes the gains are left pretty low.
for drivign around, i need to turn it up considerably to keep the same level of bass (road noise seems to cancel alot of it out) and then for some more fun i turn it up a few more notches.
still haven't got the amp any more than warm, nor has the sub come close to max excursion...
for drivign around, i need to turn it up considerably to keep the same level of bass (road noise seems to cancel alot of it out) and then for some more fun i turn it up a few more notches.
still haven't got the amp any more than warm, nor has the sub come close to max excursion...
Try a 3000D - you'll never look back
*the purpose of this thread was 'mine's bigger'
*the purpose of this thread was 'mine's bigger'
QUOTE (stormyweather)
great stuff guys!
icacha, the standard dual 2 seems ok. audison specs are all good even for a 1 ohm impedance - 2000watts, as mrbob did mention.
mrbob, i'm intrigued by 'tastey' , can you describe this a bit more? is it like an spl tastey kind of thing or, it's still most definitely sq?
ey thanks for all your inputs.
icacha, the standard dual 2 seems ok. audison specs are all good even for a 1 ohm impedance - 2000watts, as mrbob did mention.
mrbob, i'm intrigued by 'tastey'
, can you describe this a bit more? is it like an spl tastey kind of thing or, it's still most definitely sq?
ey thanks for all your inputs.
I love the XXX
I think it is a 1.8cu/ft 32hz tuning, or there abouts... I forget... Sounds excellent, lower tuning could help, but i love the hit it gives you
2kw is "enough"... I'd go for 2 audisons strapped if i had a dual 1 ohm one
However, 2kw is more than loud enough for ANYTHING you ever need to listen to... I can't see anyone needing more than 2kw on this sub, it's pretty sensitive and easy to crank without realising just how loud you have it
Aaron
QUOTE (Mr_Bob)
it could if i wanted it to, but for SQ purposes the gains are left pretty low.
for drivign around, i need to turn it up considerably to keep the same level of bass (road noise seems to cancel alot of it out) and then for some more fun i turn it up a few more notches.
still haven't got the amp any more than warm, nor has the sub come close to max excursion...
for drivign around, i need to turn it up considerably to keep the same level of bass (road noise seems to cancel alot of it out) and then for some more fun i turn it up a few more notches.
still haven't got the amp any more than warm, nor has the sub come close to max excursion...
Yeah I get the same problem, when I'm driving (especially on crappy roads) I seem to loose a lot of bass. Well maybe not "loose" but I guess it has to do with relativity and all that stuff. Anyway similar question to stromyweather, I want more bass in my car but I dont want to sacrifice and SQ (basicly I want both
). I was looking at getting a LRx1.400 and a RE SE12 then rawaudio started making LRx1.400 and SX packages which I guess would have the amp running at 1 Ohm? Would there be a big difference between the two setups? I'm running my sub at 8Ohms at the moment off my T-4.65 so would I notice a huge drop in control by running at 1 Ohm ?
Cheers
SX is a better match to the LRx, although you'll need fans to cool the amp, they might be rated at 1ohm, but only with fans.
there won't be a huge drop ni control, the LRx will still have sufficient damping factor at 1ohm.
for a cheaper option, the SE12 would sound nice off a pair of bridged channels on the T4.65 they're listed as 4 ohm, but i'm yet to chase up wether they're DVC or not.
a word of warning, SEs and SXs are currently out of stock, although an order is abou to be placed.
if you get your order in soon, one can be put aside for you in the next shipment, infact i can get you a custom dual 4ohm SX if you'd rather run at 2ohm.
there won't be a huge drop ni control, the LRx will still have sufficient damping factor at 1ohm.
for a cheaper option, the SE12 would sound nice off a pair of bridged channels on the T4.65 they're listed as 4 ohm, but i'm yet to chase up wether they're DVC or not.
a word of warning, SEs and SXs are currently out of stock, although an order is abou to be placed.
if you get your order in soon, one can be put aside for you in the next shipment, infact i can get you a custom dual 4ohm SX if you'd rather run at 2ohm.
QUOTE (Mr_Bob)
SX is a better match to the LRx, although you'll need fans to cool the amp, they might be rated at 1ohm, but only with fans.
there won't be a huge drop ni control, the LRx will still have sufficient damping factor at 1ohm.
for a cheaper option, the SE12 would sound nice off a pair of bridged channels on the T4.65 they're listed as 4 ohm, but i'm yet to chase up wether they're DVC or not.
a word of warning, SEs and SXs are currently out of stock, although an order is abou to be placed.
if you get your order in soon, one can be put aside for you in the next shipment, infact i can get you a custom dual 4ohm SX if you'd rather run at 2ohm.
there won't be a huge drop ni control, the LRx will still have sufficient damping factor at 1ohm.
for a cheaper option, the SE12 would sound nice off a pair of bridged channels on the T4.65 they're listed as 4 ohm, but i'm yet to chase up wether they're DVC or not.
a word of warning, SEs and SXs are currently out of stock, although an order is abou to be placed.
if you get your order in soon, one can be put aside for you in the next shipment, infact i can get you a custom dual 4ohm SX if you'd rather run at 2ohm.
Thanks
But unfortunatly I have to save up a bit of money so I wont be getting anything just yet 
That said the SE12 is alot cheaper than an SX+Amp. When you say run the SE12 (if its DVC) of the T4.65 you mean as in channel A/B bridged powering one Voice coil and channel C/D bridged powering the other voice coil? I dont mind waiting (well I do 
) but if getting a SX and an LRx is going to be a huge increase I would rather wait. I dont want to buy a SE then wish I got a SX.
Thanks for your help Mr Bob
.... (: I really should get going to uni now
)
if it's SVC then you could run it off a pair of bridged channels (c+d)
if it's DVC, you could run it off 2 pairs of channels (a+B and c+d)
the first will be underpowered, but sufficient, the latter will be preferred, but you'll need a new front stage amp.
presonally i'd go for the LRx+SX combo, saves you wanting to upgrade later
if it's DVC, you could run it off 2 pairs of channels (a+B and c+d)
the first will be underpowered, but sufficient, the latter will be preferred, but you'll need a new front stage amp.
presonally i'd go for the LRx+SX combo, saves you wanting to upgrade later
QUOTE (Mr_Bob)
presonally i'd go for the LRx+SX combo, saves you wanting to upgrade later
Yeah thats what I think I'll head for... but it wont stop me wanting to upgrade later
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| Try a 3000D - you'll never look back *the purpose of this thread was 'mine's bigger' [/quote]the word you were looking for was...... wait for it...... 'post'. If it dissapointed you, then you must have a dirty mind
meh - post, thread whatever!
And while my mind is plenty dirty - the XXX/3000D certainly doesn't leave me wanting!
any other experiences with the XXX 12" on sealed enclosures?
looks like a majority here has this sub on ported config. QUOTE (Mr_Bob) the RE SX sounds just as good as the XXX up to 1kw
Thats an interesting evaluation, considering the two subs share no more similarity than the brandname on the box... the actual motor design and topology are miles different from each other, so i would have thought they would sound significantly different... I know i can sure spot the diff between an XBL^2 motor sub (XXX, Brahma) vs a non-XBL^2 sub (W7, IDMAX, 9500, SX, etc)... i'm not saying the XBL^2 models sound better (ok, yes i am ) but there is a clear difference in the way the two topologies sound...
I'm not doubting what you beleive Ben, just trying to comprehend how you came to that conclusion : its like someone telling me that a rotary and a V8 both behave the same up to 6000rpm... sure the power levels might be on a par, but they're entirely different beasties under the hood
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