Hey Guys

Yup, i searched but didnt find anything :aww:

Well ive just finished the first stage of my install. The Morels are in and sounding exceptional, even for the factory locations. Although, even with a LOT of deadening I am missing that rounded-off feeling/sound you get with sub bass

So im looking into the possibility of a 10 inch sub behind the seat. There is very little room back there so the box cannot at all be big. It has been done before, and i realise there is a lot of work involved, especially considering that the box needs to be all FG to utilise the most space. Ultimately I would like to have the box sit atop the Split's amp seen in the below picture:


I havnt actually gotten out the ruler/tape/calculator yet to figure out how much room I have back there, so I am after some decent SQ performers with the requirement of the littlest box volume. Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks heaps!

PS: 6 inch subs anyone? :?

I don't know if these are available in Australia, but the Phase Evolution Aliante's are among the best SQ subs around.
The advantage for you is that they are only about 3.5" deep and the 10" only requires about .5 cuft to sound very good.
They won't break any SPL records but are plenty loud for reasonable listening.

http://www.phase-linear.de/produkte.asp?p=...w=serie&lang=EN

Do a search on this UK forum and you'll find numerous posts on the Aliante's:

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/index.php

They are $$$$ but should fit in well with the quality gear you have.

Adire Brahma 10" reaches 0.707 alignment for ideal SQ in 7.5 litres. To put that another way, if you build a box that the sub barely fits inside, thats almost exactly the right size.

Thats for a sub with 27mm one way linear throw, and its without any doubt onw of the top handful of high output SQ subs on the planet

If you want Aliante's, Pauls Audio in ChCh NZ where we just had our CAASQ event has two of them, brand new in box, for $650 NZ for the pair

Blackrazor the 10inch Brahma requires 14 litres to produce a Qtc of 0.707.

Still 14litres is very small. Half a cubic feet.

Why not have the sub between the two seats firing at the dash? That way you could invert the sub and get a fair bit of volume.

Maz, the NEW 10 inch Brahma requires 7.5 litres to produce a Qtc of 0.707. Want to know how i know? I'm the Adire importer for New Zealand

Just so you know its not just Uncle BR talking bum, heres the actual calculation screenshot :

what program is that?

Bass Box Pro 6

can u download that of the net?

Not legally. I picked mine up 2nd hand off eBay, it goes for about US$130 new.

Its the best peice of box design software i've seen in my life, and i cant recommend it highly enough. It also has probably the most informative and helpful Help file of any software program, ever.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cf...tnumber=500-923

cool, cheers for the link..

sorry about the hyjack

Adire Brahma 10" - Is this link for real? How much power do these things need in a setup like mine?
http://www.acousticconcepts.com.au/adire/M...werHandling.pdf

Phase Evolution Aliante's
IDQ v2 10"
Alto Mobile Falstaff
Infinity Perfect 10.1

Yes, the link is for real, and how much power it NEEDS depends on how loud you like it. That link simply shows how much power it would take in that enclosure for the B10 to reach full excursion

I wouldnt run a Brahma with less than 500-600w, and wouldnt put more into it than 1400 or so on a regular basis

You can get a shallow mount woofer from either Pioneer or Earthquake.

Fitting one of these in the space you have available should be a piece of cake!

I've put four 10" woofers into that space in MR2s. That was without using fibreglass.

I did another one with two tens in ported boxes.

I've always wanted to do a nice 12" in a bandpass from the front "boot".

Phil

i used an mdf sealed box in my old MR2 behind the passenger seat. it meant there was a loss of ~6" rearward seat travel. so depends if you can sacrifice that or not. otherwise FG and small box is the way to go.

the box was ~0.8cuft for a 10".



geez, that was a long time ago before i knew very much about car audio. :roll:

Hehe, looks pretty funk Richard Where are the amps?

As you may have noted on another thread im looking into the Alto Mobile Falstaff and the Phase Evolution Aliante (both made by the same bunch of people, apparently).

Both of them require a ~7litres box for the 10". Even if it meant extra hours sanding, I'd like to keep the full functionality of the seat adjustment. DDPhil, did you end up loosing seat travel after your install without glass?



You are most welcome to use my car as donor for your little project

Thanks guys for the info so far...btw you wouldnt know where I could find the two subs mentioned above?

Cheers,
Shai

If i had a car with a boot in the front of the car i would definitely put a sub there in a bandpass box with the port entering the cabin.

We often install a single 10" driver behind the seats in MR2 like this:









You only lose a tiny bit of the seat angle travel. It can still go all the way back on it's rails.

Subwoofer selection is a major factor with these types of enclosures due to volume obviously but another thing many people never mention is cooling. Whilst it's very true you need to take care chosing your subwoofer in this smaller enclosure type (the wrong subs tend to sound terrible) it is also important to remember that if the back of the sub is up against the enclosure wall (blocking the pole vent), you're running the risk of over heating the motor under extreme conditions.