Hi guys, i was trying to ask this in my previous post, but i have chosen my words more carefully this time.

As i would like to venture more into sound quality, i am changing the Jeep system so I have decent sound in my every day car as well.

It currently has 5 1/4" Type R's (F + R) but i do intend changing the fronts to something a bit more desirable.
What I would like to know is, would the current headunit I have (Pioneer Dehp9350) be suitable for a reasonable SQ setup in the way of crossovers/EQ/time align etc. Pretty much does it have what it takes to be a decent SQ deck?
I'de really prefer not to change headunits as it is an absolute bitch to remove or reinstall.

I had thoughts of a pair of Audiocontrol EQTs and Xover along with a V12 5 channel running front speakers 2 way active..

Does this sound reasonable or is the a better way I should have it set up.


Cheers!

I'm not sure about that particular model, but if the main volume control is still done via their "Dolphin" chip, then it's just not going to be the best it can be.

I'd recommend the P80RS or above for SQ.

going by that part number thats the top of the line for pioneer '9000' series and we are up to 9 now in the 2nd number, so that deck is about 6-7yrs old?

they should have decent settings on them and should have triple rcas...

as above the P80RS is recomended for SQ but its over $1500-ish rrp!!!!

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The P80RS should retail for around 800/900.....

Or you could buy a 2nd hand P9 Combo for about $1600

How far do you plan to venture into SQ? Competition or just for your own pleasure?

I run the 9450 model and no problems with it running the gear below for my listening pleasure, but i've never competed.

- Audison LRx and old Directed amps
- Boston Z6 fronts
- Image Dynamics IDMAX12's

I'de prefer not to spend huge $$$ on my daily car. If I were to change headunit, i'de be going something different to Pioneer. Seeing that I already have one, providing its "usable" I'de like to keep it and build it up from there.

I dont intend competing in comps other then test and tune days and maybe novice so i can have some feedback on tuning. This is more so i can tune it myself so I can learn.

I'd keep it and see how it goes... If it limits the tuning or affects the SQ (like excess noise), then i'd find something else.

another vote for the P80rs. about $600 street value is what I paid for mine. everything bar the time alignment is very easy to use, and the TA you get used to....

dont know much about your current HU though broadz, but if you're looking for a change, give me a call and you can have a demo of mine.

cheers mate

MAtt

The 80RS will have better SQ and more adjustability, but his current head unit already has time alignment and 13 band EQ. It was the top of the line model for it's era. If he's not competing, it's $600 he doesn't NEED to spend and his current model is actually much easier to navigate than the 80RS.

Thanks very much guys, I think stone has pretty much covered what I am trying to find out.
$600 will either buy me a better set of front speakers, or $600 worth of better tuning for my Type R's.

I had heard that mine offers parametric EQ as well.. do you know anything aout that?

I havent really played with the headunit to see what it does and doesnt have, pretty much just kept standard settings since i bought it.

Nah, it only has a 13 band graphic EQ. Parametric in Pioneers didn't come out for a few years after the 9350.



DEH-P9350 user manual

My opiniion.

Headunit only equates to 7% of the total sound you get so you'll be fine with what you've got provided you put enough effort into the more important areas (speaker choice and installation).

As far as direct effect on sound quality, I'd agree.

However headunit also determines tunability, which can quite easilly be the difference between a averate-to-good system, and a truly great one.

I carefully chose my componenents for my system from the ground up, as well as carefully planning out installation techniques and positions, etc. These were all critical, and the sound to begin with was quite good - but the tunability of the HX-D2 made all the difference in the end and has permitted me to turn 'quite good' into excellent.

Tunability is absolutely critical to system performance, and it's importance shouldn't be overlooked!