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negatron
Being fair as i posted something similar in the SPL section, I thought'd I'd put one here too.

how to build an SQ car:

1) Get a car with a nice wide and flat dash, deaden the crap out of it
2) Get a good (read: expensive) set of spilts, the more exotic and expensive the better
3) Get a kick ass set of amps and wire them up
4) Muck around with the mounting of the mids / tweets / mid basses for months.
4.5) Tell everyone that the bluetak mounted tweets are only a "temp setup"
5) Spend hrs at a time trying to tune out the smallest bit of imperfection to your ears.
6) Repeat steps 4-6 for as long as possible
7) Enter an SQ comp
dirol.gif Loose points for not having a fire extinguisher.
ultim8DTM5
RE: Step 4.5 - Why doesn't everyone spend big dollars on expensive splits and kick ass amps, but then not care about fit and finish?
DeeCee
Gee - looks like someone is a bit grumpy.. why not just disregard the fire extinguisher rule and focus on the other parts of scoring smile.gif

QUOTE (ultim8DTM5 @ Dec 13 2007, 10:03 PM) *
RE: Step 4.5 - Why doesn't everyone spend big dollars on expensive splits and kick ass amps, but then not care about fit and finish?


because a lot of people don't understand the concepts of good installation practice or are "temporarily installing the equipment to test it out the positioning.."

that and no one gives an ass most of the time.. seen it in too many cars i've judged..
Pulse-R
my tweeters were blutac'ed for 9 months - now have nice pods made for them.
negatron
QUOTE (DeeCee @ Dec 13 2007, 08:25 PM) *
Gee - looks like someone is a bit grumpy.. why not just disregard the fire extinguisher rule and focus on the other parts of scoring smile.gif



because a lot of people don't understand the concepts of good installation practice or are "temporarily installing the equipment to test it out the positioning.."

that and no one gives an ass most of the time.. seen it in too many cars i've judged..


Actually I built my sq car for myself, I don't compete in the SQ comps here, its just that I hear a lot of ranting about the fire extingusher rule and the steering wheel remote rule which is why i put it on.

Besides... i thought the post was funny

QUOTE (ultim8DTM5 @ Dec 13 2007, 07:03 PM) *
RE: Step 4.5 - Why doesn't everyone spend big dollars on expensive splits and kick ass amps, but then not care about fit and finish?


I don't think a case of not caring, i think its a matter of "what if there was a more potimal position" which makes ppl settle for these "temp" setups

Now you guys made a funny thread serious... sigh...
Pulse-R
ohhhh, was that meant to be serious.. oh well.

muzzy66
QUOTE (ultim8DTM5 @ Dec 13 2007, 09:03 AM) *
RE: Step 4.5 - Why doesn't everyone spend big dollars on expensive splits and kick ass amps, but then not care about fit and finish?


Because some people are audiophiles first, and posers second.

They want to be certain they have it dead on perfect first, rather then wasting time making it look pretty only to find it sounds like ass and needs to be pulled apart and rebuilt.

Then there are those others who spend big dollars on expensive splits and kick ass amps, and spend a fortune on a fancy looking install only to find it is installed in a way that is far from optimal for the speakers...they then listen to it and get dissaointed knowing in there heart they they wasted their money, but justify it with "oh well, at least it looks pretty!".

I know which one I would prefer to be...
Cide
QUOTE (negatron @ Dec 13 2007, 10:04 PM) *
Now you guys made a funny thread serious... sigh...


don't worry, i saw the humour in it laugh.gif
~thematt~
I didnt.

***edit***
Still dont
Wh33lzz
I spent 10 hours glassing in my dash mounted tweets, after spending maybe a week positioning them, only to find they sounded like bum glassed in.

So now I have some new tweets, happily "temp" mounted on my dash, for a few months while I test positioning, and listen to every single bit of music I have in each position.

Im sure eventually I'll be happy, then I'll glass em in.

Thats how it works when you spend big bucks on components, and you are a perfectionist.

If its "ghetto" for a bit, meh, get over it judges.

by the way negatron, I lol'd...
muzzy66
QUOTE (Wh33lzz @ Dec 14 2007, 04:22 AM) *
by the way negatron, I lol'd...


Me too, but shh - don't tell anyone!! tongue.gif
KIRBO
I found the funny side of it. Simple and straight to the point.
mad89
That 8 step procedure sounds about right to me laugh.gif

PS: I LOLed too cool.gif
pyr0maniac
hehe good one, made me laugh out loud. Especially 4.5. My tweets are mounted with some funky dynamatting. lol.
ultim8DTM5
QUOTE (muzzy66 @ Dec 14 2007, 01:44 PM) *
Because some people are audiophiles first, and posers second.

They want to be certain they have it dead on perfect first, rather then wasting time making it look pretty only to find it sounds like ass and needs to be pulled apart and rebuilt.

Then there are those others who spend big dollars on expensive splits and kick ass amps, and spend a fortune on a fancy looking install only to find it is installed in a way that is far from optimal for the speakers...they then listen to it and get dissaointed knowing in there heart they they wasted their money, but justify it with "oh well, at least it looks pretty!".

I know which one I would prefer to be...



I'm glad you didn't mention safety and security in your post Muzz! I just hope all the "audiophiles" remember to duck the flying tweeter on their next emergency brake stop, then they can admire all the pretty "poser" systems with a nice black eye. silly.gif
philz
But technically, if your tweeters are mounted at the back of your head, there is no way physically, that the tweeters will hit you.

Because when you hard brake, everything moves forward, towards the front of the car.
So the tissue box on the back shelf is more of a worry.

And in an event of a crash, the tweeters bruising your eyes are the least of your worries.

But then again, yes it is prefer that they are mounted securely, to avoid anything happening.
Wh33lzz
booyeah!
ultim8DTM5
QUOTE (philz @ Dec 16 2007, 05:01 PM) *
But technically, if your tweeters are mounted at the back of your head, there is no way physically, that the tweeters will hit you.

Because when you hard brake, everything moves forward, towards the front of the car.
So the tissue box on the back shelf is more of a worry.

And in an event of a crash, the tweeters bruising your eyes are the least of your worries.

But then again, yes it is prefer that they are mounted securely, to avoid anything happening.


I agree, and hopefully the emergency break isn't followed by an impact.

Working in the field that I do, I don't take any chances. I've seen the photos (and the medical bills) of the aftermath of a pod gauge shattering someone's cheek. The hard stop broke the loose bracket in place and he copped one under the eye-socket. Whether it was before of after the inital decelleration I don't know, but was definately worse than a tissue box!

Blue-tac is fine for the garage, but once you drive down the street you are taking a risk if not for yourself then for any passengers you're carrying secure it property.
TERRA Operative
What's the steering wheel remote rule?
Pulse-R
QUOTE (TERRA Operative @ Dec 16 2007, 07:11 PM) *
What's the steering wheel remote rule?


outdated whining about the extra 1 point in some previous years for having steering wheel mounted controls. It was ditched rather than refined due to people being too poor to afford a good OEM integration of steering wheel-mounted controls in a car which didn't originally have them.
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