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D34M0N
I was going to get a Soundstream T5 but got told there crap and to go for a Clarion PXW1552 instead. So i was just wondering were is the cheapest place to get these subs in VIC? And any other thoughts on this purchase is fine. 

Also would a 15" be to slow for metal and techno etc i listen to alot of different Genres of music will a 12" be better?
IH8SQ
Seeing as your posting in the Spl section im guessing your after something loud or are you more after quality?
Dont limit yourself to that one woofer as there are plenty out there. What is your price range, do you already have an amp and what car is it going into?

Dave
Charger
The Soundstream T5 will run runs around the Clarion woofer. Whoever told you they are crap has probably never even heard one.

Don't even bother with the Clarion.
D34M0N
It's going into an EB series 2 looking to spend $1000 on SUB and AMP and will be for SPL maybey pay more if the extra warrents the extra sound. I just want lots of bass im more for SPL thats why i posted it in here thanks smile.gif
D34M0N
Also does anyone no how i can get in contact with the guy who done this car.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2088148

I no a few of use no him but can't remember who.
gooki
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It's going into an EB series 2 looking to spend $1000 on SUB and AMP and will be for SPL maybey pay more if the extra warrents the extra sound. I just want lots of bass im more for SPL thats why i posted it in here thank


Good to see you're looking at 15's - like they say - there's no replacement for displacement.

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Also would a 15" be to slow for metal and techno etc i listen to alot of different Genres of music will a 12" be better?


Noting wrong with a 15. And no they're not to slow - it's prety damn hard to make a sub that's so bad it slows down and thus alters the frequiencey being played.

However how good you sub intergrates will be greatly dependant on you fron midbass drivers being able to keep up. Having a big gap in volume between subbass and midbass can sound ass.

If the price was the same and those were my only two options I'd take the soundstream sub. There's a significant lack of info on the Clarion.
D34M0N
Thanks No there not my only options any other for my price range is fine aslong as there not hard to find biggrin.gif. $1000 for sub and amp i plan to get a second sub of the same later on unless the bass is good enough but i always have an urge for more bass soon after i upgrade biggrin.gif Is that the same for you guys always wanting more bass after upgrading not long ago?
Louie
If that's how it is, save a bit more and get 'higher' quality gear. ~$1k subamp for about 1krms (or strapped jaycars, 1800@2ohm) and 'better' subs. It's pointless (and a waste of money) to upgrade rubbish with rubbish. Don't get me wrong, the SS might be a great sub, but there may be others out there better then it around a similar price (could be wrong here though). But why not save a bit more and get some gear that will last you a bit longer
Michae1
What do you have already in the way of cabling?
Roo
I believe this kid roo is selling a DD9515 maybe you should the for sale section might be able to get a real sub not these piss weak speakers
D34M0N
I have 4 gauge that spilts to 2 8 gauge the wiring is not in budget as i said willing to pay a bit more for better stuff if it warrents it. Will check it out.
Michae1
$1000 = DDC2a + DD1515 (and change smile.gif )

Bridge C2a to run woofer for around 600rms.
RAD82
Try and stretch that budget a little further and snap up one of the several DD 15"s going for sale smile.gif
KIRBO
QUOTE (D34M0N @ Jan 30 2008, 08:39 PM) *
Also does anyone no how i can get in contact with the guy who done this car.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2088148

I no a few of use no him but can't remember who.


Old mate of mine, havnt seen him in ages.

E-Mail
His EB Website

Btw: Dont make any rush purchases. Keep digging these forums until you know youve found the perfect subbass powerhouse.
Kirbo smile.gif
D34M0N
QUOTE (KIRBO @ Feb 1 2008, 01:01 AM) *
Old mate of mine, havnt seen him in ages.

E-Mail
His EB Website

Btw: Dont make any rush purchases. Keep digging these forums until you know youve found the perfect subbass powerhouse.
Kirbo smile.gif


Thanks alot much apreciated i love this guys mods need some tips of the trade biggrin.gif. Yeh i am still willing to here other ideas i want an amp that is capable to fully power 2 of the subs even though im buying one now i get the feeling i will get 2 later on when more cash comes in smile.gif

And also the site is a bit old his cars alot better now in recent photos biggrin.gif

And i can't add his email to msn it says it is an invalid account sad.gif

cominthru_@hotmail.com yeh?
KIRBO
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D34M0N
Yeh that worked smile.gif
D34M0N
Would this amp be good for 2000 rms? Just as a cheap alternative to run 2 good subs but then later on pay bigger dollars on an AMP.

http://bitaudio.com.au/ssl-cr40001-p-315.html
Dutchy351
No that amp is a piece of sh*t, is says it will give you 1800wrms. I would be suprised if it would give you 500wrms. Honestly you are better off spending the cash first time round, that way you have the quality there and don't have to spend possibly even more money because the cheap gear fails.
Charger
Things are cheap for a reason. Sometimes you unfortunately find out the hard way, sad.gif
D34M0N
Yeh guess so hey haha. What amp would be good to run 2 T5's or 2 Clarions or any other 700-1000 w subs.
DD Phil
QUOTE (D34M0N @ Feb 3 2008, 11:06 PM) *
Yeh guess so hey haha. What amp would be good to run 2 T5's or 2 Clarions or any other 700-1000 w subs.


What's your budget?

Why not get one good sub instead of two cheapies?

Phil
D34M0N
Yeh i wanna get one good sub and amp for 1000-1500 max But need the amp to have the power to drive another of the same sub incase i want another biggrin.gif
D34M0N
These any good?

http://cgi.ebay.com/KICKER-SOLOBARIC-L7-CA...1QQcmdZViewItem
D34M0N
HIFONICS-BRUTUS-BXi2006D-
db nathan
QUOTE (DD Phil @ Aug 16 2007, 01:41 PM) *
Somehow it got lost in the MEA update, so here it is again.

I'll link to it in my sig.

DD PHIL'S "DOG POO THEORY"

Q. If you have a piece of dog poo, what do you have?
A. A piece of dog poo.

Q. You get another piece of dog poo, now what do you have?
A. 2 pieces of dog poo.

Q. You get a bucket of dog poo and tip it on top of the 2 pieces of dog poo, what do you have.
A. A pile of dog poo.

Q You get a wheel barrow full of dog poo, tip it on top what do you have?

Q. Get a truck load of dog poo, back it up and dump it on top, what have you got??

A. It's still bloody dog poo.

Exactly the same goes for audio equipment.

Adding more and more gear to try and fix a problem never works. Sit down, dream up your "ulitmate" system and only ever buy components from that system. You'll save money in the long run.

One really good sub, in the right box can play louder and sound better than four crappy ones ever could. One truly great set of speakers installed correctly will sound better than 20 sets of crappy ones.

Aim for this budget share:

Head unit 15% (It's 2005 CD players are nearly all awesome)
Speakers 50%
Amps 35%

Another golden rule: No amount of BBE, DOLBY, time alignment etc can ever make crappy or badly installed speakers sound good.

Phil



D34M0N
QUOTE (db nathan @ Feb 4 2008, 03:52 PM) *

I like that haha.

Would a JL W7 and a Hifonics amp be good?
Roo
QUOTE (db nathan @ Feb 4 2008, 03:52 PM) *
I like that haha.

Would a JL W7 and a Hifonics amp be good?

-1 dont buy from ebay, look in the forsale section for a good amp and sub. the jl is a weak sub and hifonic are know not to put out there rated power and you cant buy them locally here.
D34M0N
Decided to go with my original plan with the Clarions easier to get less hassle with deciding and i can actually listen to them in a EB just like mine smile.gif
Charger
Sorry to hear that. I hope things go better for you in the future.
Michae1
Glad we could help nea.gif
DD Phil
QUOTE (Michae1 @ Feb 5 2008, 08:55 PM) *
Glad we could help nea.gif


rofl.gif

Phil
Drifte.au
Im so sorry for your loss.

Please accept my condolences.

sad.gif
Roo
why come on here to see if the clarion subs are any good, be told they are crap and not to buy them. then you still buy them? whats the point of even asking if you had your mind set?










bloody goober
hsvmonarogen3
whats a goober?
RAD82
QUOTE (Roo @ Feb 6 2008, 10:25 AM) *
why come on here to see if the clarion subs are any good, be told they are crap and not to buy them. then you still buy them? whats the point of even asking if you had your mind set?

bloody goober


Quoting Michael from another 'Should i buy Clarion' thread

QUOTE (Michae1 @ Nov 30 2007, 06:30 PM) *
...

It seems you have your mind set on using the clarion and just want someone to say yes do it.

But the question is "Clarion for SPL?"

The right answer is.......NO.

D34M0N
Well i don't no were to get the other ones cheap other than ebay and that suppose to be rip off central for car audio gear. If use have any better ideas or links to places to buy this gear. I've looked around but don't no of any trustworthy stores.

Anyone been on here?

http://www.ryda.com.au
DD Phil
QUOTE (D34M0N @ Feb 6 2008, 05:09 PM) *
Well i don't no were to get the other ones cheap other than ebay and that suppose to be rip off central for car audio gear. If use have any better ideas or links to places to buy this gear. I've looked around but don't no of any trustworthy stores.

Anyone been on here?

http://www.ryda.com.au


Where do you live?

Why the obsession with mail order?

There are a lot of stores that offer MEA discount, that sell high end gear.

What's your budget?

Phil
Charger
Don't buy off the net, support your industry and buy from a real car audio store. I'm sure there are a tonne of decent stores around you so you won't have to settle for shi77y Clarion woofers but if you do end up getting them, good luck with it. We told you you could get far better...
D34M0N
I live in geelong and because im 16 they try and rip me off. My budget is around the $1000 mark more if is worth the extra.
DD Phil
QUOTE (D34M0N @ Feb 6 2008, 06:24 PM) *
I live in geelong and because im 16 they try and rip me off. My budget is around the $1000 mark more if is worth the extra.


$1000 for what? Subs and amps?

On a budget, if you want huge bass, I'd go two subs. For efficiency, cone area is king.

You really don't enough for massive power, that would chew up the entire budget.

If it were me I'd drop in two of our 1515s and an MB2 (700Wrms). It rrps more than your budget, but with MEA discount and a little bit of help you'd get close and it would HAMMER.

Phil
Charger
QUOTE (D34M0N @ Feb 6 2008, 05:24 PM) *
I live in geelong and because im 16 they try and rip me off. My budget is around the $1000 mark more if is worth the extra.



It's essential if you plan on buying lots of gear, to establish a relationship with your store (no, not like that! rolleyes.gif )

A store shouldn't rip you off if you're 16 as long as you're genuine when trying to make a deal. You must understand how many tools walk through the store's doors every day who are 'gunna do' things like make their VL with Alpine the loudest car in Aust etc. etc. You have a budget so you know what you have to stick to. $1000 is still plenty to buy right with, and even easier to buy wrong with if you don't manage it right.

Tell the store what you want and be realistic with it and they'll understand. I have been buying car audio since I was 14 and didn't get ripped off back then (much tongue.gif). I guarantee you will find sharks out there who just want your money, it will take time but there are good stores who will look after you, you just have to do some research, go out and there and get a deal.

Good luck with it.
D34M0N
Whats this MEA discount and also were do i buy that gear from?

Yeh but i don't have the sort of money to go buying heaps of stuff to make relationships tongue.gif
Michae1
Where is your closet Autobarn? wink.gif
DD Phil
I can arrange something for you at Geelong Car Sound or any Autobarn.

Phil
Louie
You don't need to constantly be buying stuff to arrange a relationship. I'd occasionally just go into the local store and have a chat to the people working in there, see what they're doing with their cars and just have a listen to some of the new gear they had up or what not. Sure, not all stores are like this, but if you have a chat with them in there they can find out what you're after and perhaps help you out to work some deals.
D34M0N
Yeh i have been to geelong car audio a few times but he sure did wanna try sell me the T4-12's. And i work around the corner from Autobarn thats were i got my Rockford Fosgate HU. I might have a talk to the guys at autobarn.
Drifte.au
Yep as above.

The good guys will realise you'll be back time after time for work/parts.

Head up to melbourne perhaps?

Phatt
Styling
gl pro
etc
car-tunez
I know this is a little off topic, but why is it that Car Audio has this "relationship/discount" thing?

I have been going to the same Chinese restuarant for 3 years and if the bill comes to $82.10 guess what I get charged???? $82.10
I have been going to the same service station at the end of my street for 6 years and
if I put $45.05 worth of petrol in my car I get charged $45.05

I think I might ring up Telstra and say "ive been a good customer for 10 years, how bout giving me mates rates on the next bill?"
Matt VIP
expensive taste in chinese....

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