Looking at upgrading HU for SQ tunning.

Considering Alpine's new CDA 9886i with "Imprint" functionality off the HU via PXA-H100 Imprint sound processor.

What I would like to know if anyone can help should I be looking at the Alpine CDA 9887 instead even though the HU is more expensive and is made for the Imprint tunning kit?

Reading off the Alpine website suggests that CDA 9887 ($599 RRP)and CDA9886i ($499 RRP) are pretty much technically the same as far as tunability goes with additional Imprint kit/module and quality with 24bit Burr Brown DAC.

Any comments are appreciatted, thanks.

Go the 9887, keep it simple.
and you'd be silly to pay 599 for it.

9887 can be had for as low as 300 from the for sale forums.

Also, out of the box, the 9887 is leaps and bounds ahead of the 9886. both have the same excellent iPod control, if thats what you're after. However, the 9887 comes with all the whiz-bangs; 6 channel time allignment, 2/3-way xover, 5 band parametric-7 band graphic EQ.

The 9886 only has these functions with the addition of the h100.

Both units can be used with imprint technology. AFAIK, the 9887 stores the imprint settings itnernally, whereas the 9886 requires either the h100 to store them, or another external adaption.

9887 (24bit DAC's) no USB, comes with iPod cable + additional imprint software = $898 rrp

9886 (24bit DAC's) has USB, comes with iPod cable + additional imprint module = $798 rrp

looks are different, all you have to do is choose

Imprint for the 9887 is $299
Imprint for the 9886 is $399

So the price for both with imprint are the same.
the imprint kit for the 9886 can not be used with the 9887 and can not be used the other way around either.

Also 9887 does not come with the ipod lead as STD thats a extra $59 i think.

And not sure on this one but i do not think 9886 can do 3 way front stage. (but not sure)

Might want to check the Alpine website...

Taken from the Alpine website:

PXA-H100
IMPRINT Sound Processor

IMPRINT Sound is a stunning new suite of sound processing technologies that let you sit in the producer’s chair and hear music exactly as it was meant to be heard. It delivers sonic accuracy never before available in the car, and utilises sophisticated professional sound tuning technologies, including MultEQ, that measure your car’s acoustics and process the sound − precisely and automatically! The CDA-9886 and CDA-9884E are IMPRINT Ready − simply connect our PXA-H100 processor and get full IMPRINT Sound in your car, easily and inexpensively. Using a laptop computer, your dealer can acoustically tune up your car in just minutes, and with guaranteed optimum results.

Price:
A$299.00

Thanks guys for clearing things up a bit.

I'm not worried about ipod and USB options for either HU.

So it looks like the CDA 9887 is still the best option for SQ from Alpine for now.

cashed up for F#1 ???

I know where you can get one if you got the cash

also guys the 9886 is NOT 24bit. It is only 24bit "ready" and only becomes 24bit when you connect the module. This is however quite handy as all other sources ie ipod become 24bit when have the 9886 and the module whereas the 9887 is only 24bit on the cd side of things..... just a thought.

also my 9887 and all others that ive heard have too much hiss (very sensitive ears ) and beep on track changes and volume changes from -- to 1 (the internal modulator turning the signal on/off) i don't believe the 9886 has this problem.

thats odd, i've never heard that issue in the ones i've installed, maybe send it back to get it checked out...

Yes it does but you all so need the KTX H100 FOR $99 PLUS the PXA H100 $299
thats for the 9886 9884 etc

The 9887 runs the KTX 100EQ FOR $299.


YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK YOUR FACTS KEY BOARD WARRIOR.

don't get him started! we'll never hear the end of it.

at the end of the day, any small difference in price surely wouldn't be the deal maker/breaker. both are very capable models; i think the difference in features is what will sway the buyer. if there's no need for USB, then the 9887 probably has it. or if you don't want a HU with blue backlighting, another reason not to buy the 9886i.

didnt realise you work for alpine

yes your right, but i can hear you, you dont have to yell

i'd still get the 9886 as it has one thing the 9887 doesnt, not a big feature but a good one... USB

ye its odd for sure i mean u have to really listen for it - but on mine its really noticeable - it has already been shipped over to alpine but all they did was stick it on a osciliscope and said it was fine all the other 9887 in the showroom i can hear the prob..... a faint beep when you skip to next track just before the new track starts and you can also hear it going from -- to 1 on the volume...

so you've never heard it??? strange maybe its a batch over here in WA

try it out for me and post back....... put your ear up to the right channel and go up and down from zero volume to 1

cheers guys

Matt

not wanting to dig up an old thread or anything but better than clogging it up with another 9886 v 9887 topic,

does anybody else notice the hissing and beeping with the 9887?

any other noteworthy things with the 9887? I know it loses a motorized face but i can live with that...

User reviews welcome and invited

thanks guys.

bumping this up...

opinions guys?

im still waiting on my 9887
its on backorder or something with alpine aus.

no hissing or beeping at all with my 9887

not running active if it matters

never had hissing or beeping either ive had a 9887 since first released in oz and never had a single problem with it my next hud will be alpine again no worries

so if you put your ear up to the right hand tweeter you cant hear a slight beep after every cd track change>>>? 9put volume on 1 and press next track on a cd)
it also does it from -- volume to 1 and tuner changing preset channels .....

very odd - ye even Alpine says it shouldn't be there everyone i've heard over here in WA does it and i find it very annoying.....

cheers,

Matt

I'd like someone to explain why, if CD's are only 16 bit then why is a 24Bit DAC supposed to be superior?

I would also LOVE to know the answer to that question. Didn't want to ask it in here in case it make me look stupid, but since it has been asked already, I'll second that curiosity. My hat off to you for being brave enough to ask!

i installed my 9887 and got my front stage running of a PDX4.100.
i get some hissing and beeping and stuff (sounds like circuit noise) when just you put the key in the car and turn it on. after about 20secs that noise goes away.

if i turn the deck off then back on it makes a loud pop.
im scared it might damage the tweeters the pop does sound pretty nasty.
i dont know if its normal or not.
im running an active front stage if makes any difference.

it has been noted on some other forums that the 9886 has problems connecting with some iPods.

this has effected some US and UK, in particular syncing with Nano's and G5 and G5.5 series iPods.

Anybody have this problem cause i'm stuck between the 9886 and 9887. I don't have any real use for the tuning capabilities on the 9887, but if there are issues with the 9886, then i'll probably get the 9887

i have a simaler problem with my home dvd player when i go through the dvd menu sometimes i get a high pop through my suround sound its scary as hell.

Could the noise's in the 9887 be a bad batch ?

nathan

bumping this interesting question

because it's almost impossible to buy a 16-bit DAC for audio these days.

so you put in a 24 bit DAC and "YAY I have 24 bit DAC" even if the source is 16 bit.

I still believe that 16-bit PCM (if recorded properly) is just as good as any other format, and better than most.