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s4turn
well, i got my boston z6's cheap of an auction site here in nz, and i guess i paid for what I got...

the mids work ok, the crossovers work ok
one of the tweeters however doesnt

the dome is pushed in... I only noticed this when I recieved them... and the auction did not state this sad.gif and when listening to these speakers, one tweeter is very faint (with pushed in dome) and does not play the very high notes.


Can anyone recommend me a tweeter that is as good as the Z6 tweeter or even a tweeter that has similar characteristics to the z6 tweeter? as i really like the detail of the Z6 or something just to match the mids really...

or is anyone just selling 1 Z6 tweeter by any chance? or a pair?

need help... sad.gif

I would love brand new spz6's but they are well out of my price
MrMally
would leaving the tweater in the sun work?
so that when it heats up it pops back out

i know you can do that with some plastics just wondering if you can do it with this aswell.
s4turn
these tweeters have metal domes sad.gif just to make things harder for me laugh.gif

so now there is big creases in it
I took it to a audio repair shop, they said there is not much I could do, as the tweeter looks sealed up, also they do not have replacement parts for the z6's here in nz, im not sure if boston even sell replacement parts at all

I have yet to hear how much a new pair will cost me or just 1 from the boston supplier here in nz
Alex - Formerly Rbimdxe
http://www.fhrxstudios.com/

Go to products>botson acoustics.

The Z6 contain 'Type M1' tweeters. Closest matching seperate tweeters,a re the 'Type M2' for RRP$399/pair.

As far as I can tell, the difference is that the M1's use a 'full AMD device', whereas the M2's use a slim version...
Luke352
Maybe some of these, http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-DIAMOND-AUDIO-ALUM...1QQcmdZViewItem the guy has 487 of them lol, they're 8 ohm though, but I remember that the Z6 tweeters arent 4 ohm, but are they 6ohm or 8ohm. But if the Z6 ones are 8ohm that those should work a treat as the Diamond audio Hex tweets are meant to be quite nice and detailed.
s4turn
hmm ok, the z6's are 6 ohm im sure of it
Luke352
Hmmm, well unless you plan on running active your probably going to have to take the hit and spend the cash on some new Boston tweeters, since although there 6 ohm tweeters out there, there isn't a huge range to pick from and I can't realy think of any of the top of my head that would have similar performance and tonal qualities like the Boston's.
YT1987
this may work i have seen it done before, could you fit a vacumm cleaner pipe over the tweeter maybe you could use some sort of suction powered device to pull the metal back out not sure if it would be ok to do or if it would work on metal tweeters
s4turn
i tried that on the tweeter, however I found once I removed the AMD bracket which is over the tweeter, I found that it had been tampered with before, and that part of the surround of the tweeter was actually glued to this bracket

thanks to ben I can confirm that the surround should of been glued to the tweeter housing not the AMD bracket, so its if someone had already pulled it off, then glued it back on
Point is, once i removed the AMD bracket, the surround lifted up on the edge of the tweeter sad.gif

not to mention I wasnt too happy, so i managed to poke a hole through the Dome tongue.gif
so yeah the tweeter is buggered sad.gif
Ben
Man that sux.... It's hard enough to fix something that's broke, let alone something that's been stuffed around with already...

The pro M2 tweets (from the ambient set) that Alex mentioned may be the way to go, however you are paying a fair whack of money for em new..

The main difference from the M2 to the M1 is the AMD on top of the tweeter, which is slightly smaller on the M2s, plus the Z6 tweeter is anodised, which (as far as I can gather) gives it a slightly more rigid quality, and may sound slightly different to the M2. The biggest difference from the high freqs in the pros to the high freqs in the Z6's lies in the crossover network.

it would be very hard (if at all possible) to distinguish the difference between a set of Z6s with M2's or a set of Z6's with M1's if you used the Z6 crossovers, because of the crossover network on the Z6's being soooo much better than the pros.

I would recommend scouring some American forums as well. There is usually somebody selling bits n pieces of Z6 sets from time to time...

As the M1 tweeter is indeed a 6 ohm tweeter, it'll be hard to find an alternate that can work with the crossovers, but I think you were gonna run them active? In this case, I'd recommend you sell off the other Z6 tweeter (someone's bound to want one laugh.gif ) and get a set of Focal's TN52 tweeter's, and run them from 2.5K Ohms up at 24dB (the approximate secret crossover point of the Z6's).

The actual crossover point for the tweets on the Z6 crossover is tapered slightly due to the properties of the linkz-riley filter so the crossover point is a little bit more complicated than a simple 24dB slope, and it gives it a phase shift relationship to the mids that creates a smooth transition to the higher freqs (according to the marketing and research dept tongue.gif )... It's actually quite hard to find out specs on the crossovers I guess because Boston believes most ppl are stupid and don't need to know that kinda stuff!!!, so I did a bit of testing and found out for myself what the slope settings were.

Just for future reference (and a start point on active settings) The Z6 woofer's (using the Z6 crossover) are run low passed to 2.3K (-3dB point) with a 24dB octave (butterworth) on the Z6 crossover....

I love Z6's ... can you tell? silly.gif
Ben
These are a pretty close match if you want to consider a slightly smoother sound

Seas Lotus
br85
I would probably recommend vifa XT19's or XT25's for that smooth sound, or pretty much any scanspeak tweeter if you've got the money. It seems that, at least in the studio monitoring world, where a transparent response is more important than ANYwhere else, the scanspeak tweeters are VERY popular, and are often paired with the seas mids or midbass. Maybe it's becoming apparent that seas makes the "best" mids and midbass, and scanspeak makes the best tweets. Or maybe it's all a conspiracy to keep us from knowing about the REAL best speakers in the world!!*


















*I am, of course, referring to the speakers found in landline telephones. They might SEEM like they're a little mid focussed and distorted to hell, but take the eq and distortioneriser out of your landline phone and you'll be AMAZED at what you hear!! shok.gif
s4turn
I phoned the local boston supplier here in nz, and got a useless response about it taking months to come from Singapore and could cost me an arm and a leg

So I emailed boston direct, and they can do the tweeters for $70 us dollars each...

Should I order 2? or just 1? as I was reading somewhere that when repalcing and one old tweeter, the pair should be really replaced?
Pulse-R
Morel MT23 are 6 ohm
Focal TN47 are 6 ohm


anyways - better to replace the pair, as you don't know what damage has been done to the other.
xwfalcon
Oz Audio matrix elite ME25T are 6 ohms
Darkness_GR
I would probably replace both of them as you don't know what damage there is to the other one,

if its still new maybe test it and if it is working well just get the one.

Cheers, Grant
s4turn
yeah ive just placed an order for 2 z6 tweets, hopefully shipping wont cost me an arm and a leg

and at $70 bucks each its a bargin..

Im not sure what the supplier in NZ is doing... I might even just start ordering parts firect from boston in the states

I asked them about the z6 mids, which are 180 US each, crossovers are $200 each...
Luke352
Shipping & handling shouldn't be anymore then $40 USD, $50 max. It probably helps that the Z6 are now a discontinued item, so it's essentially old stock to them.
camo888
pm sent reguarding ya now spare good tweeter, as i damaged 1 of my brand new z6 tweets 2 weeks ago.
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