My CDA-9887 should be comign anytime soon and the front stage will be running of a PDX4.100.
I'm currently use Hertz HV165 midwoofers and first generation Jaycar Response Kevlar range tweeter an the crossover.
Ill be running them semi active to get a feel and intial setup and some base crossover settings for the mids.
Then when im comfortable i bump it up to full active and fine tune the crossovers etc again.
I would like to upgrade the tweeters and leave the mids where they are.
Is that a good idea?

Does anyone use the XT25 in small format (one with 3 holes mounting face)?
If so where did you get them?
Im looking so hard for a viable tweeter than wont burn the wallet out.
Ive also looked at true car audio tweeters which of course make it easier for me to install them in the A pillar when it comes to angle mount or flush or surface mount etc.

Max budget is around $150.
I called WES (wagner) and they said they can only get them if minimum order of 100 because its not in their catalogue. But its on the D-s-t site.

I would love to hear your thoughts onm the matter.

Cheers
Henry

some of the options i have found:

Hertz HT-25 RRP 145
Jaycar Response Ribbon tweeter + crossover (which i dont need) RRP 89
DD DDT1-28 RRP 99
Morel MT22 RRP 175
Focal TNA RRP 135
Focal TNB RRP 145

I'd shy away from the ribbon, as a good ribbon can sound amazing but a cheaper ribbon can be excessively bright and a not very pleasent listening experience, I'm not saying this is the case with the jaycar ribbon but I would like to hear it first.

But if you can fit the ribbon why not just use the conventional xt25, since the ribbon is not exactly a small driver???


p.s. have you checked the xt19 it's a bit smaller then the full size xt25

im referring to the new ribbon ones that come with the new response splits RRP 299.
jaycar sell the tweeters and crossovers only for RRP 89
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?I...=&SUBCATID=


yeh ive checked the xt19 specs
the face plate is still pretty large -> 94mm diameter
installing them on the a-pillar will take me a bit of time and effort.

Yeh, I wouldnt touch those ribbons. True ribbons arent that much more expensive, and 10x the quality. The Founteks are usually around 100 bucks each.

Unfortunately, they are the most ridiculously stupid units to install. Mine are about 4" deep, 4" wide and around 2" tall. Midranges and midbasses are smaller......

Stick with something like the XT19 or XT25.

And whilst none of these choices are 'car audio' specific, why the desire to choose something that is?

And the response ribbon tweeter it 102mm x 88mm so the ribbon is still larger in one direction, and only 6mm smaller in the other direction. The other issue is because that isn't exactly a high quality ribbon it can't play low, I believe someone who tested them said they wouldn't cross them below it was either 3k or 5k, but in either case to get a mid to perform up to that cleanly and well, is going to take some careful selection.

As thematt suggested if your after a ribbon buy a good one, the better stuff starts at about $100 each with some nice ones going if your willing to spend about $150 each.

Luke

ive been looking various models on Madisound which have had good reviews on diymobileaudio forums.

Morel MDt12 US$31
LPG 25NFA US$43
Vifa XT25SC50-04 Ring Radiator tweeter US$33

ok guys im going the LPG 25NFA which many on diymobileaudio forum seem to like.
PLUS it will directly replace my jaycar tweeters.
fr 1850hz here i come.
<a href="http://madisound.secureserverdot.com/catal...products_id=541" target="_blank">http://madisound.secureserverdot.com/catal...products_id=541</a>


Might get a pair of SEAS Prestige mids CA18RLY as well if the shipping cost is right.
<a href="http://madisound.secureserverdot.com/catal...products_id=789" target="_blank">http://madisound.secureserverdot.com/catal...products_id=789</a>


looking at the photos iof the LPG 25NFA makes me think the jaycar v1 tweeters from the kevlar splits RRP 299 back in the day) are made by LPG Germany.
But if they were then they would have said it was made in germany.
The cup is very similar, as well as the. The tweeter dome lipping looks almost identical as is the clip on mechanism, the driver terminal, and the magnet assy. The front bezel is a tad different. However the jaycar tweeter is 4ohm not 8ohm and there is not way they would have a low fs. Not that i can prove anyway.
Plus the LPG 25NFA handles 80wRMS@8ohm yet the whole jaycar kevlar split combo ranges less than that.

Aussie supplier does them for $82 each plus GST, so probably work out to be simpler just to order from Aussie Importer, when I looked at some Seas stuff the price difference once you included shipping etc... was neglible, and it's always better to support local industry.

http://www.aranmaracoustics.com.au/

i did the madisound quote thing like 3 times now to get shipping quotes.
the guys there must hate me.

I've gotten quotes from madisound for 6.5" mids before and it was just under $60 USD
CA18RLY from madisound is $68ea USD so
so 2 x 68 = 136 USD + $$59 USD p&h = $195 USD

Comes out at $214 aussie

or

from aranmar acoustics
2 x 82 = 164 + $17gst = $181 plus say $20- $30 postage

So it's cheaper to get them from Aranmar.

Though personally I'd get either the CA, ER or P18RNX, the RNX drivers have better motor design with better low end performance and midbass performance, and it doesn't cost much more, though for a 2 way setup stay away from the L18RNX.

I just put the order through.

for tweeters only they quoted me $53US FEdex
for tweeters + mids they quoted me $75US

so actually
$68x2 = 136
$136 + 22 extra in freight = 158
= $177 ish after Paypal exchange rate which robs you a few cents in the dollar

Its hard to resist it when you only need to click twice to buy something these days
LOL
damn internet!!!


I really wanted to get the CA18RNX but it has a 78.4 or so depth.
I measured my window clearance from the surface of my custom 15mm spacer and i have spot on 78 so it actually wont clear it fully.

Thats why i had to get the CA18RLY with smaller VC and higher fs.
BUT it has a higher qts which should be better in an IB door setup.

Hopefully my PDX4.100 can push enough juice at 8ohm to run the Seas mids well.

after looking back i really wouldnt mind the Seas NEO 27TFFNC fabric dome 27mm tweeter.
for the reason being that the Seas can be crossed lower than the LPG 25NFA.
fs 1100 vs fs 1850
BUT is has a 46mm mounting hole requirement, 53mm front bezel and the hole in my door is 50mm.
PLUS the Seas has no mounting cups or anything. So 46 is 46mm therefore there will be a 2mm gap around.
Just press in and diy a spring clip from screw into the magnet
Suppose i could have still fit it and hotglued some of the gap to prevent it moving around.

ill post a review of somesort once its in and run in.

Um, I think you'll find thats $75USD just for postage so it's $136 + 75USD p&h so $211 USD then factor in exchange rate from there.

Here is the link to USPS's shipping rates, http://pe.usps.com/text/Imm/ab_012.htm#ep1572941 I've ordered a few things from the states and it's always pretty close to the mark, madisound will probably ship it, Express Mail International, or Priority Mail International so check those rates on the link.

of course $75 is shipping only . BUT for mids and woofers.
the tweeter shipping only was $53 so i was like stuff that i might as well put in extra $22US shipping.
know what i mean?

nah when i did the quote for shipping they gave me options.
i chose the best one. fedex with tracking because the other 2 UPS options had no tracking.
its pretty close i know plus but it takes less clicks of the mouse