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Siddr20
Item: R33 Series 2 Skyline, GTST
Location: Sydney
Item Condition: In very good condition inside and out. Dream to drive!!
Reason for selling: Wanting to do europe trip end of year!! So need money for that.. sigh
Price: $13,990
Payment Method: Pickup - Cash ONLY or deposit into bank account
Extra Info:

- Car has been Remapped with STOCK ECU at 196kw@10psi only!! Easily 200kw car with 12psi or so..

Well i have owned it now for 2.5 years and even though i totally love this car, i think its time i let go and buy something else. I bought it straight from SSPI (compliance shop who only import grade 4 or above and this car was one of them), and it has been serviced with chris there every 5000kms without fail. I have always used the best oil (ELF) and nothing else!! I rather pay a bit more knowing i have some quality oil inside my baby tongue.gif

Edit: bought the car at 80,000kms. Most of the kms are high-way as i go to wollongong uni - First year the car was hardly driven either..

This car has never given me any problems from day one and i can assure you i have looked after it in most care.

Modifications is still minium so engine is still stock as a rock smile.gif

I have spent a lot of money maintaining car esp when it came to my 100k service. I only spent on the best parts and best oils. 100k servicing included:

1) Trust timing belt
2) Engine flush
3) Radiator flushed and refilled
4) Genuine Nissan water pump installed
5) Cleaned injectors and fuel rails
6) New oils in gearbox and Diff (some expensive motul oil- cant remember name but have it on the receipt)
7) New plugs, cleaned afm.. usual other little minor things.
dirol.gif I even changed brake fluid

Now for the mod lists:

Alarm:

-5 point immob.. Spent a fair bit!! Not going to disclose it now, unless you are a serious buyer.. But has usual tilt sensors, automatic window winder, internal screamer/external screamer, panic button.. etc etc..
Engine:

-Apexi Pod Filter
-Radiator Cooling Panel
-Manual bleed valve - set at 10psi
-R34 Side Mount
-BaseJunky Silicon AirIntake Pipe
-Otherwise stock

Driveline:

-Excedy Heavy Duty Clutch

Fuel:

-Walbro 500HP Fuel pump

Suspension:

-Lowered springs (Looks like Teins- came with the car on standard nissan shocks)- Handels very well for just lowered springs
-Adjustable Castor Rods
-Struct brace bar
-Fully Adjustable Rear sway bar (thicker than standard and made in AUS-KMAC racing)
-Adjustable solid tie rod ends

Brakes:

-RDA rotors front and back
-Right now got standard nissan pads - Did have all other expensive brands, but nissan stock pads does the job well!! has been proven on track also

Exhaust:
Full exhaust system - including spilt dump pipe, hi-flow cat and some tough sounding jasma approved catback (i even had a sau member pm'n me if he could buy my exhaust) - A.T.M - i got a straight thru pipe installed.. still have my other catback and will come with the car

Interior/Exterior:

-Series 2 body kit including LIP and side skirts
-Brighter h1 globes
-Alpine mp3 headunit (CDA 9857)
-Herts HKS 165 Spilts - Very nice sounding spilts and it cost be a bit too
-Herts Coxials in the rear
-APEXI RSM
-Pivot Boost guage (very unquie and lights up blue) - on dual A-pillar
-Green lights inside tongue.gif
-Tinted windows % 15%
-Clear indicators

Rims:

-Did have buddy club p1s - sold it
-Now comes with R34 GTT rims with 225s all round!!


Im sure i left out a fair bit. Mind blank at this stage. I have receipts for all my modifcations that i have bought and installed. I have only ever done work at SSPI Or Ricol Automotive.

Rego till Oct 08

Edit: Will chuck in all the spair items i have lying around in my garage. eg- stock shocks, springs, indicators, fuel pump, sidemount.. etc etc..


Pictures:

Click to view attachment
^ Buddy club p1s NOT included. Comes with stock rims!!

PICS REMOVED COZ THEY ARE TOO BIG!!

Smaller pics coming soon!!

Ta
KGB
pics are too big dude, i can only see like a headlight or something, lol.
Siddr20
^ Oh really? it doesnt re-size after loading?

I went over my download cap, so my net is so ffreaking slow.. taking ages for pics to load!!

I will let it download for a while and see what happens.

Thanks for letting me know!!

Also willing to swap the car for a cheapish one

thanks

Siddr20
WOW ok just checked and yup you are right.. pics are way too big lol..

I will try and resize it soon for everyone.

Siddr20
Bump!!

If anyone is keen plenty of pics here:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/R3...-1-t206670.html

ta
Siddr20
Update, just fitted some r34 gtt rims smile.gif

Will take some pics soon..

ta
Siddr20
bump
Siddr20
going on carsales shortly..

any offers?
Siddr20
On carsales. $13990

Any comments? inspection welcome!!
snail
dude that dyno sheet is noy right r33 make 130kw standard on 10psi so how can u jumped that much. my mate has now got 200kw atw on his 33 and he has done alot more then u and running 15psi so please tell the truth coz that is not
Siddr20
QUOTE (snail @ Aug 11 2008, 07:16 PM) *
dude that dyno sheet is noy right r33 make 130kw standard on 10psi so how can u jumped that much. my mate has now got 200kw atw on his 33 and he has done alot more then u and running 15psi so please tell the truth coz that is not



I wish i saw your post earlier smile.gif

But i dont frequent this forum much!!!

You know i was gonna be a smart ass back to ya, but then thought nah im better than that.

Perhaps i will ask you to re-read my ad.

Car has been remapped at 196kw at 10psi. The key word is remapped!!

Before remapping, the car pulled 183kw at the wheels. I have not seen a single rb motor pull 130kw stock.
Also stock is not 10psi. Factory stock psi is up to 7psi.

You know it aint hard to acheive 200kw on an rb motor. Also my car aint stock.

I will leave you to keep researching about skylines smile.gif

Enjoy



PS. I just re-read your post. WOW 200kw at 15psi??? Tell him i suggested that he should retune it else where.
snail
lol dude thats cool i know its wrong but will not say no more good luck with the sale
mad_bison
snail i agree with you...

QUOTE
The 2.5 L RB25 engine was produced in three forms:

* RB25DE - twin-cam 140 kW/190 PS and 147 kW/200 PS (with VCT) @ 6000 rpm, 255 N·m (26.0 kgf·m) @ 4000 rpm)
* RB25DET - twin-cam turbo (T28 Turbo) (245 to 250 hp and 319 N·m)
* NEO RB25DET - twin-cam turbo (206 kW (280 PS) @ 6400 rpm, 362 N·m (37.0 kgf·m) @ 3200 rpm)

RB25DE and DET engines produced from August 1993 also featured NVCS (Nissan Variable Cam System) for the intake cam. This gave the new RB25DE more power and torque at lower rpm than the previous model."


245kw = 180kw at the flywheel...

QUOTE
Nissan Skyline R33 GTS25-T

The Nissan Skyline R33 GTS25T replaced the older R32 GTS-T. The newer skyline is a larger car and weighs roughly 100kgs more. The overall shape of the car looks more modern with smooth lines rather than sharp edges. The new looks are debatable some like the newer styling of the R33 and some prefer the harder edges of the R32.

The interior of the nissan skyline R33 is roomy and looks more modern then the previous model. A driver’s side airbag was standard on 95 modes and above and a passengers side airbag is an option.

On the road the first thing you notice is the extra punch from the engine due to the extra tourque and power generated by the RB25DET. You can feel the extra weight when cornering Though its still a great drive but not quiet as direct or nibble through the bends as the R32. Light suspension modifications improve handling significantly. The HICAS 4 wheel steering system has been improved with a new electronic system.

By far the biggest improvement with this nissan skyline was the engine the RB25DET is a ripper with loads more torque throughout the rev range and a smoother power delivery. The engine has grown 500cc, has a higher compression ratio 9.0.1, variable valve timing on the intake, and a higher flowing head. The Turbo charger and intercooler are slightly larger, and the standard maximum boost level is 7psi.

The bigger roomer Nissan Skyline R33 is overall a better car than the R32 with its modern refinements. Its extra weight does hamper handling slightly compared to the previous skyline but the new engine is a great improvement with plenty of potential.



QUOTE
Power 187 KW @ 6400 RPM (130 to 140rwkw)
Torque 295NM @ 4800 RPM



http://nissanskyline.6te.net/GTS25T_spec.htm

3psi remap, with different exhaust + pod filter, really shouldn't gain you almost 60kw at the wheels...

i also wondered why the dyno sheet is whited out where the details are.

don't get me wrong..brilliant looking car...but i don't believe the dyno sheet.

but then again...


* UAS Tuned Apexi Power FC
* Adjustable Exhaust Cam Gear
* 3 Inch Turbo Back Exhaust
* Upgrade Trust Corner Mount Cooler
* 13.5 Psi
* Iridium Spark Plugs

Graph shows before and after Iridium Plugs were fitted.


SKYLINE R33 GTS-T WITH SAFC II

* Series 2
* Cat Back Exhaust Only
* UAS Tuned Apexi SAFC II
* Increased Response
* Improved Fuel Efficiency

The dyno graph shows the result of trimming back the Air Fuel ratio. More power is now available right through the rev range.

swanny
Oh my god, you have to be kidding me.

Snail and mad bison - STFU. You really have no idea what you are on about.


Mad bison - you have posted right there, (in the second dyno graph), an example of how the dyno graph of Sidd's car is entirely plausible.
186kW with only the fuel side of the stock map tuned (SAFC only affects fuel, not timing), and only a catback exhaust - not a full exhaust.

Sidd's car has both a full exhaust and the remap allows for both fuel AND timing to be tuned.
Aside from that, around the 200kW mark is entirely normal for a tuned, stock turbo R33 GTS-T to make. Have a search on the skylinesaustralia forums if you like, but then again perhaps the hundreds of other people with mildly tuned 33s are wrong too...?

Furthermore, stock 33s make more than 130kW. I should know, mine was dynoed at 152kW with the stock 7psi, in fact bog stock engine aside from a pod filter.

I have no idea how you two have calculated that a RWD drivetrain would take away 50 - 60kW from the stock at the engine figure of 187kW. 30% drivetrain loss on a stock RWD car? Hahahaha good one guys.

God even your quotes are wrong if you want to get picky. RB25DETs do NOT have T28 turbochargers, and never have. They come with T3 turbochargers stock - SR20s and RB26s come with T28s (albeit two of them on the 26s obviously).


How about you consider some of these results:

<a href="http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/2SWZZL/R33DynoResult2.jpg" target="_blank">http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/2...DynoResult2.jpg</a>
198kW, 9-10psi and an SAFC tune

<a href="http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/merlin6014/scan0008-1.jpg" target="_blank">http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/mer.../scan0008-1.jpg</a>
199kW, 11psi, SAFC NEO tune, made through a tiptronic auto box on an R34

<a href="http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9018/dynotunzsmluu3.jpg" target="_blank">http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9018/dynotunzsmluu3.jpg</a>
183kW, 10psi, SAFC tune

<a href="http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=163529" target="_blank">http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...t&id=163529</a>
187kW, 10psi, SAFC NEO tune (owner comments that he expects more with a full Power FC tune - ie when timing is attended to)


EDIT: and heres an example of a bog stock 145kW dyno graph too.
Click to view attachment




Geez on second thoughts Sidd your dyno result seems way out of the ordinary, Ive no idea how you managed to make that kind of figure...


Pull your fingers out and get out of Sidd's thread. He is selling a beautiful car, and I'm gonna be as sad as he is to see it go.

If you don't believe the power figure, thats just fine, except you're wrong. Just some advice might be to go over to SAU, ask a few questions and see some results and perhaps youll embarass yourselves a little less next time before you comment in someones for sale thread.


Good luck with the sale Sidd, someone will get a brilliant, fast car when they buy this.
snail
thanks mad bison i told him but eh


i said it was a nice car sorry bout the boost that was a typo. i have bout 4 mates that have 33s none of em have gone close to that power with them mods

for that to be belivable get a dyno chart with details hell that makes close to as my 2jz on that boost cant be . It even has the stock side mount imagine the heat soak lol
Siddr20
^ OMGGGGGGGGGGGG seriously mate, YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SKYLINES SO SHUT THE f*** UP!!!

have you owned one before??

Get a dyno chart with details???????????? WTF ???? what the graph above wasnt good enough?

MY CAR DOES NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT <--------- READ THAT BIT (NOT)!!!! HAVE A STOCK SIDE MOUNT!!

IT has a upgraded R34 GTT SIDE MOUNT capable of up to 220kw.

My car when IT WAS STOCK with just a catback and podfilter has run a flat 14sec 1/4 mile, with street tyres.

CAN a 130kw car do that????? Im sure with a better driver at that time my car could have done 13.5..


QUOTE
i said it was a nice car sorry bout the boost that was a typo. i have bout 4 mates that have 33s none of em have gone close to that power with them mods


PErhaps there engines arent healthy. Perhaps you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THERE CARS!!! Perhaps there tuner is crap!!


TheyDontWantMusic
perhaps your engine is running so lean that you can't drive it unless its -10 degrees outside?

the dyno sheet simply doens't add up.

the highest octane fuel we have easily available is 98 octane, you're never going to be able to run it lean enough to make that kinda power on 98 octane.

a stock 2JZ engine, on 10psi boost, does like 175 - 180rwkw.

so how is it that your 17% smaller engine, does 12% more power running the same boost?

Siddr20
QUOTE (mad_bison @ Aug 22 2008, 11:23 PM) *
snail i agree with you...

The 2.5 L RB25 engine was produced in three forms:

* RB25DE - twin-cam 140 kW/190 PS and 147 kW/200 PS (with VCT) @ 6000 rpm, 255 N·m (26.0 kgf·m) @ 4000 rpm)
* RB25DET - twin-cam turbo (T28 Turbo) (245 to 250 hp and 319 N·m)
* NEO RB25DET - twin-cam turbo (206 kW (280 PS) @ 6400 rpm, 362 N·m (37.0 kgf·m) @ 3200 rpm)

RB25DE and DET engines produced from August 1993 also featured NVCS (Nissan Variable Cam System) for the intake cam. This gave the new RB25DE more power and torque at lower rpm than the previous model."


245kw = 180kw at the flywheel...







<a href="http://nissanskyline.6te.net/GTS25T_spec.htm" target="_blank">http://nissanskyline.6te.net/GTS25T_spec.htm</a>

3psi remap, with different exhaust + pod filter, really shouldn't gain you almost 60kw at the wheels...

i also wondered why the dyno sheet is whited out where the details are.

don't get me wrong..brilliant looking car...but i don't believe the dyno sheet.

but then again...


* UAS Tuned Apexi Power FC
* Adjustable Exhaust Cam Gear
* 3 Inch Turbo Back Exhaust
* Upgrade Trust Corner Mount Cooler
* 13.5 Psi
* Iridium Spark Plugs

Graph shows before and after Iridium Plugs were fitted.


SKYLINE R33 GTS-T WITH SAFC II

* Series 2
* Cat Back Exhaust Only
* UAS Tuned Apexi SAFC II
* Increased Response
* Improved Fuel Efficiency

The dyno graph shows the result of trimming back the Air Fuel ratio. More power is now available right through the rev range.


HEY CHAMP!!!!

thanks for giving me a history about r33s. What you think after 3 years of owning it i wouldnt know the different between a 33 and a older model r32???

Have you even owned a skyline before?

Do you know anything that you have quoted FROM GOOGLE, which i might ad that link you posted up is OLD and not correct.

I suggest you read what swanny has written below your post.


QUOTE
i also wondered why the dyno sheet is whited out where the details are.


OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGG you seriously have not gone to a dyno before have you?? SO WHY quote crap and say crap without know anything about it.

Let me explain to you whats behind that blanked out bit.

MY NAME & MY CARS REGO. I do not wish others to know my plates etc.

Seriously mate you know nothing about skylines. I suggest you either BUY ONE or Shutup.

Thanks for posting those dyno graphs up.. Just proves that my car has 200kw.

Have a gd day sir smile.gif
Siddr20
QUOTE (TheyDontWantMusic @ Aug 24 2008, 09:18 AM) *
perhaps your engine is running so lean that you can't drive it unless its -10 degrees outside?

the dyno sheet simply doens't add up.

the highest octane fuel we have easily available is 98 octane, you're never going to be able to run it lean enough to make that kinda power on 98 octane.

a stock 2JZ engine, on 10psi boost, does like 175 - 180rwkw.

so how is it that your 17% smaller engine, does 12% more power running the same boost?


Are you for real?

My engine is lean?? And i can only drive it when its -10 degress outside? lol

HAhHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH OMG you made me laugh so hard..

DUDE i have done two track days. ONE in 30 degree days and one bit cooler just few months ago.

How about this for more proof: With the current setup my car has run a 1.13 around wakefield with proper 600 dollar infra red timer. SO NOT HAND TIMED!!

I will leave you to re-search about times at wakefield.

Then get back to me smile.gif

I have been driving this car for the past 3 years without any problems.



HAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHAH


Seriously a bunch of idiots on this forum.
TheyDontWantMusic
QUOTE (Siddr20 @ Aug 24 2008, 09:21 AM) *
Let me explain to you whats behind that blanked out bit.

MY NAME & MY CARS REGO. I do not wish others to know my plates etc.


it also lists the model of car... whats wrong with people having your first name?

you're getting rather defensive, and very childish regarding the dyno figures, which is making me think they aren't real.
TheyDontWantMusic
QUOTE (Siddr20 @ Aug 24 2008, 09:25 AM) *
How about this for more proof: With the current setup my car has run a 1.13 around wakefield with proper 600 dollar infra red timer. SO NOT HAND TIMED!!

I will leave you to re-search about times at wakefield.

...................

Seriously a bunch of idiots on this forum.


I found an EA falcon that did it in 1.09, a V6 camry that did it in 1.10, and a Mirage that did it in 1.10.

I assume you don't really expect to sell the car through this forum, especially after insulting everyone.
Siddr20
OMG hahahahahhahh

Alright here is my name : Sidd,

Heres my rego : AWD37Y

Also i blanked out those details when i made a thread about toshis remap smile.gif Not related to this forsale threads.

Why dont you write something more about my engine being lean tongue.gif

QUOTE (TheyDontWantMusic @ Aug 24 2008, 09:32 AM) *
I found an EA falcon that did it in 1.09, a V6 camry that did it in 1.10, and a Mirage that did it in 1.10.

I assume you don't really expect to sell the car through this forum, especially after insulting everyone.


Yes but did they have stock suspension setup? Street rubbers?

Man im over it..

Think what you all want.
TheyDontWantMusic
QUOTE (Siddr20 @ Aug 24 2008, 09:35 AM) *
Yes but did they have stock suspension setup? Street rubbers?

Man im over it..

Think what you all want.


you told me to research times, so I did silly.gif

telling us your name, and rego means nothing if its not on the dyno sheet.
Siddr20
Alright, i will post it up again without it blanked out.

YOU researched cars which are TRACK CARS!! that is stripped out, have got a lot of work done to the suspension and body etc.

Give me 1 sec and i will post up the dyno graph
Siddr20
Before the remap smile.gif

Click to view attachment


AFTER the remap smile.gif

Click to view attachment


QUOTE
I assume you don't really expect to sell the car through this forum, especially after insulting everyone.


I tried to be nice at the start, but you guys kept pushing it.

I have had a lot of time wasters recently and its frustrating when it comes to selling a car.

Ta,
Siddr20
QUOTE (swanny @ Aug 23 2008, 06:10 PM) *
Oh my god, you have to be kidding me.

Snail and mad bison - STFU. You really have no idea what you are on about.


Mad bison - you have posted right there, (in the second dyno graph), an example of how the dyno graph of Sidd's car is entirely plausible.
186kW with only the fuel side of the stock map tuned (SAFC only affects fuel, not timing), and only a catback exhaust - not a full exhaust.

Sidd's car has both a full exhaust and the remap allows for both fuel AND timing to be tuned.
Aside from that, around the 200kW mark is entirely normal for a tuned, stock turbo R33 GTS-T to make. Have a search on the skylinesaustralia forums if you like, but then again perhaps the hundreds of other people with mildly tuned 33s are wrong too...?

Furthermore, stock 33s make more than 130kW. I should know, mine was dynoed at 152kW with the stock 7psi, in fact bog stock engine aside from a pod filter.

I have no idea how you two have calculated that a RWD drivetrain would take away 50 - 60kW from the stock at the engine figure of 187kW. 30% drivetrain loss on a stock RWD car? Hahahaha good one guys.

God even your quotes are wrong if you want to get picky. RB25DETs do NOT have T28 turbochargers, and never have. They come with T3 turbochargers stock - SR20s and RB26s come with T28s (albeit two of them on the 26s obviously).


How about you consider some of these results:

<a href="http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/2SWZZL/R33DynoResult2.jpg" target="_blank">http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/2...DynoResult2.jpg</a>
198kW, 9-10psi and an SAFC tune

<a href="http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/merlin6014/scan0008-1.jpg" target="_blank">http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/mer.../scan0008-1.jpg</a>
199kW, 11psi, SAFC NEO tune, made through a tiptronic auto box on an R34

<a href="http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9018/dynotunzsmluu3.jpg" target="_blank">http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9018/dynotunzsmluu3.jpg</a>
183kW, 10psi, SAFC tune

<a href="http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=163529" target="_blank">http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...t&id=163529</a>
187kW, 10psi, SAFC NEO tune (owner comments that he expects more with a full Power FC tune - ie when timing is attended to)


EDIT: and heres an example of a bog stock 145kW dyno graph too.
Click to view attachment




Geez on second thoughts Sidd your dyno result seems way out of the ordinary, Ive no idea how you managed to make that kind of figure...


Pull your fingers out and get out of Sidd's thread. He is selling a beautiful car, and I'm gonna be as sad as he is to see it go.

If you don't believe the power figure, thats just fine, except you're wrong. Just some advice might be to go over to SAU, ask a few questions and see some results and perhaps youll embarass yourselves a little less next time before you comment in someones for sale thread.


Good luck with the sale Sidd, someone will get a brilliant, fast car when they buy this.



I thought i bump this up smile.gif

Thank you swanny!!! I hope others can now learn!!
snail
dude chill the f###k out . I have not owned a syline before why would i everyone has 1. But i have been in many and seen lots and lots on the dyno so it dont matter lets leave it at that dude just a recap


* UAS Tuned Apexi Power FC
* Adjustable Exhaust Cam Gear
* 3 Inch Turbo Back Exhaust
* Upgrade Trust Corner Mount Cooler
* 13.5 Psi
* Iridium Spark Plugs

that was the 1 that made 206kw with 3.3psi more then urs now so this means he gained a extra 10kw with 3 more psi right ......... urs is running 10psi . but u gained close to 60kw with a extra 3psi with the remap . So this means this should of made 256.2 kw with the extra 3 psi .but it didnt
Siddr20
I did not gain extra 60kw from remap.

My first dyno chart produced 182kw - i think this was at 10psi or 12psi - STOCK ECU, exhaust and pod filter. WITH STOCK r33 cooler!!
This was taken back in 2006. EDIT: OHHHH also spark plugs gapped at standard - 1.1

Since then i have changed my exhaust around - that is, different spilt dump pipe, hi-flow cat, and straight thru pipe.
On top of that i got a remap done to the stock ecu. ALSO NOW i have an upgraded R34 GTT cooler smile.gif
Edit: NOW plugs set to 0.8 smile.gif


This produced a lot better mid-range and no flat spots.

After remap was done, i put it on the dyno and produced 196.2kw at 10psi only!!

The turbo is rated to handle u pto 12-13psi.

Since i was going to track day the next day after remap i left it at 10psi smile.gif

SO once again i did not GAIN 60kw? Where are you pulling this figure from?



NOW do you even know what the following items are??

* UAS Tuned Apexi Power FC
* Adjustable Exhaust Cam Gear

^ The power fc most likley has a little more adjustablilty than the remap (perhaps more fine tuning)
The exhaust cam gear is said to beleived to make 5kw more power. Since you are dailing in more degrees.

MY car does not have a exhaust cam gear.

Should i keep going?

Theres a huge 10 page thread about my remap over at SAU. Not one single person has said OH your power figures are wrong.

My car has been posted across many forums. NOT one single person has mentioned anything about my power.

I think you should research a little more before writing smile.gif

I can post yup a good zillion skylines which are for sale with same power figures.

Are you gonna post in each and every single one of them stating they are wrong?

Actually better yet.

I will give you phone numbers to all import tuners who tune these types of cars.
Perhaps give them a ring and quote my exact mods (WORD FOR WORD HERE) and ask them what figure i would pull smile.gif

QUOTE
So this means this should of made 256.2 kw with the extra 3 psi .but it didnt


DID you know that the stock r33 turbo can only go up to 210kw at max. I dont know where you are pulling 256kw from?
most tuners leave it around 200-205 to be on the safe side.

QUOTE
i said it was a nice car


Thank you smile.gif She is beautiful!!

Enjoy.
dezzz
Thought I'd step in and sort out the morons from the few in here that actually know what they're talking about.
Snail, bison, you're making fools of yourselves. Either research first (and learn that you are in fact wrong), or simply stop posting, unless of course you enjoy looking foolish, then by all means contiune smile.gif

QUOTE (snail @ Aug 11 2008, 07:16 PM) *
dude that dyno sheet is noy right r33 make 130kw standard on 10psi so how can u jumped that much. my mate has now got 200kw atw on his 33 and he has done alot more then u and running 15psi so please tell the truth coz that is not

R33's don't run 10psi standard. Standard, an R33 runs a duel stage boost of 5psi below 4500rpm, 7psi above.
You say your mate is making 200kw (I'll assume thats rear wheel kw because its extremely unlikely he has flywheel kw figures other than factory). 15psi on the stock R33 turbo is completely useless. Anything over 12psi is useless and will not increase power, only heat, and in turn, the chance of turbo failure. I suggest your mate finds a new tuner, because his current one clearly has no idea what he's doing smile.gif

QUOTE (snail @ Aug 23 2008, 10:43 PM) *
thanks mad bison i told him but eh


i said it was a nice car sorry bout the boost that was a typo. i have bout 4 mates that have 33s none of em have gone close to that power with them mods

for that to be belivable get a dyno chart with details hell that makes close to as my 2jz on that boost cant be . It even has the stock side mount imagine the heat soak lol

Clearly you and your 4 mates have no idea what they're talking about, or doing with these cars. Refer to the bottom of my post smile.gif

QUOTE (TheyDontWantMusic @ Aug 24 2008, 09:18 AM) *
perhaps your engine is running so lean that you can't drive it unless its -10 degrees outside?

the dyno sheet simply doens't add up.

the highest octane fuel we have easily available is 98 octane, you're never going to be able to run it lean enough to make that kinda power on 98 octane.

a stock 2JZ engine, on 10psi boost, does like 175 - 180rwkw.

so how is it that your 17% smaller engine, does 12% more power running the same boost?

I've included both boost and afr dyno sheets to keep you happy too.

QUOTE (snail @ Aug 24 2008, 08:00 PM) *
dude chill the f###k out . I have not owned a syline before why would i everyone has 1. But i have been in many and seen lots and lots on the dyno so it dont matter lets leave it at that dude just a recap


* UAS Tuned Apexi Power FC
* Adjustable Exhaust Cam Gear
* 3 Inch Turbo Back Exhaust
* Upgrade Trust Corner Mount Cooler
* 13.5 Psi
* Iridium Spark Plugs

that was the 1 that made 206kw with 3.3psi more then urs now so this means he gained a extra 10kw with 3 more psi right ......... urs is running 10psi . but u gained close to 60kw with a extra 3psi with the remap . So this means this should of made 256.2 kw with the extra 3 psi .but it didnt

Again, 10-12psi is pretty much all the stock turbo on an R33 is good for. Anything over this not only dramatically increases the risk of failure, but will not gain anymore power as it is outside the turbos efficiency range. The car you mentioned has a stock turbo, so anything over about 210rwkw is just a high reading dyno, as the stock R33 turbo is good for 190-200-210rwkw with supporting mods. Period. Also, not sure why you'd list what spark plugs a car has, especially considering that regular coppers produce a better spark anyway...

Below are several dyno graphs of my own R33, all on the same dyno.
The first 2 graphs show the car before (red line) and after (blue line) the installation and tune of a powerFC.



As you can see (if you're compotent at reading a dyno graph) the tuned line (blue) shows AFR's right on 12:1, which is the ideal AFR for an R33 with these mods. The red line (stock ECU) shows the car running a lot richer, which is how they run from factory. Peak power on the stock ECU on this run was around 160-165rwkw, with the powerFC and subsequent tune taking power up to 202rwkw on this run, with a much more linear power delivery.
Boost is set to 12psi for the final tune, up from around 9psi on the stock ECU (with the addition of a full exhaust and front mount, a 2psi increase over the stock 7psi is entirely normal)

These next 2 graphs show the car in its current state, with upgraded turbo and all supporting mods.



The first of the 2 graphs shows the boost having been increased to 14psi with the new turbo (not running in its optimal efficiency range of about 18psi) and a massive increase in power, as you would expect with an upgraded turbo and all supporting mods, again with an excellent linear delivery of power.

The 2nd graph once again displays the AFR, once again tuned to sit just under 12:1, running ever so slightly richer than with the stock turbo.

Feel free to quote some more stuff off google if you think it'll help you support your case.

Cheers smile.gif

P.S I've chosen to leave my name and registration on the dyno sheets to keep you happy smile.gif
snail
a standard 33 makes ........... 135-140 ...... u now make 196 thats almost 60kw. A exhaust-pod filter and 3 psi shoud give maybe 30-35 max .. my mate has a r32 it runs 14 pound has a filter and exhaust and frontmount makes 142atw i know its a 2l not 2.5. I also have my other mate as i said before he now runs the power fc 15psi filter frontmount and made around the same as u so yes i know wat a power fc is and yes i know wat a cam gear is ....i have 2 turbo cars that make over 200kwatw so i do know a bit about turbo cars do u know wat............. RBDET_T stands for . As for the 265 dont worry u didnt catch it
snail
lol hey dezzz that dyno is a heap of crap mat ur makin that power coz its been run in 4th gear every run has to be done in 3rd dude so looks like ur the 1 that dont know wat ur talkin about
dezzz
QUOTE (snail @ Aug 24 2008, 11:11 PM) *
a standard 33 makes ........... 135-140 ...... u now make 196 thats almost 60kw. A exhaust-pod filter and 3 psi shoud give maybe 30-35 max .. my mate has a r32 it runs 14 pound has a filter and exhaust and frontmount makes 142atw i know its a 2l not 2.5. I also have my other mate as i said before he now runs the power fc 15psi filter frontmount and made around the same as u so yes i know wat a power fc is and yes i know wat a cam gear is ....i have 2 turbo cars that make over 200kwatw so i do know a bit about turbo cars do u know wat............. RBDET_T stands for . As for the 265 dont worry u didnt catch it


I don't know why you keep stating that your mate is running 15psi and making 200rwkw...If he's using the stock turbo (and it sounds like he is) then running 15psi is nothing short of idiotic, and as you can clearly see not giving him any power gains. Drop it to 12psi and he'll be likely to make exactly the same power only with more reliability.

Don't even bother comparing an R32 in this argument as apart from the different engine and turbo, they run completely different boost levels standard.

Sid did not make a 60rwkw from an exhaust a pod and some boost, he made it from an ECU RETUNE and the mods to support it.

You clearly think that boost is all thats needed to make power, which indicates that you in fact have no idea what you're talking about.

QUOTE (snail @ Aug 24 2008, 11:16 PM) *
lol hey dezzz that dyno is a heap of crap mat ur makin that power coz its been run in 4th gear every run has to be done in 3rd dude so looks like ur the 1 that dont know wat ur talkin about


oh my goodness. Snail just stop now. Industry standard for dyno runs on manual cars is 4th gear as its closest to 1:1. Running in 3rd gear, if anything, will only increase the power output on a dyno.
Siddr20
QUOTE (snail @ Aug 24 2008, 11:11 PM) *
a standard 33 makes ........... 135-140 ...... u now make 196 thats almost 60kw. A exhaust-pod filter and 3 psi shoud give maybe 30-35 max .. my mate has a r32 it runs 14 pound has a filter and exhaust and frontmount makes 142atw i know its a 2l not 2.5. I also have my other mate as i said before he now runs the power fc 15psi filter frontmount and made around the same as u so yes i know wat a power fc is and yes i know wat a cam gear is ....i have 2 turbo cars that make over 200kwatw so i do know a bit about turbo cars do u know wat............. RBDET_T stands for . As for the 265 dont worry u didnt catch it


Oh dear lord sad.gif

Actually no snail i have no idea what a RBDET_T is? Please tell me.



Siddr20
edit: double post.. can delete this one..

snail
rbdett stands for R= race B= bread D= double/twin cam E= electronic fuel injection T= turbo and tt stands for twin turbo dude if u didnt know that thats a shame dude looks like u dont know as much as u say

lol

dezz find me more dyno sheets done in 4 gear coz its not the way it should be mate and if u say 3rd gear should make more then 4th thats a lower gear why dont we run it in 2nd or 1st

well i had to dyno 1 of my cars in second as its auto coz it hits speed cut in 3 so just had to do it that way
Siddr20
Im so sorry snail.. i know nothing about skylines.. Yes you are right.. SO SORRY!!
Will you forgive me??? pls.. pls..

I thought it stood for.. RANG BANG DANG EANG TANG TONG.. man i was so wrong..

Man you are a genuis. Please teach me more.

WOW TWIN TURBO!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW is that new technology?

Never heard of it before.. How come mine only comes single turbo?

Im off to bed now. Will learn more tomorrow ok.

Thanks bye..
dezzz
QUOTE (snail @ Aug 24 2008, 11:37 PM) *
rbdett stands for R= race B= bread D= double/twin cam E= electronic fuel injection T= turbo and tt stands for twin turbo dude if u didnt know that thats a shame dude looks like u dont know as much as u say

lol

dezz find me more dyno sheets done in 4 gear coz its not the way it should be mate and if u say 3rd gear should make more then 4th thats a lower gear why dont we run it in 2nd or 1st

well i had to dyno 1 of my cars in second as its auto coz it hits speed cut in 3 so just had to do it that way


It doesn't actually stand for race bred, it stands for response and balance, but ok buddy.

As for the rest of your post, I'm done with you. You're an ignorant moron without a clue, and I feel sorry for you.

Head over to SAU where everyone is laughing at you, pop into the forced induction section and ask people what gear a manual car should be run in on the dyno...Good luck with it smile.gif

As for why you don't run in 1st or 2nd, its because they don't return accurate results. But you'd know that already, you seem to know everything else smile.gif
swanny
Snail, seriously, I can't express how embarassed I'd be to be you right now.

You actually think dyno runs *arent* meant to be done in 4th gear?




Riddle me this - does your car pull harder in 3rd or 4th gear? Im thinking you probably pull a lot harder than your car, but regardless a normal car pulls harder in 3rd than 4th, and would make more power on a 3rd gear dyno run than on a 4th gear dyno run.

So using your logic, Sidd would actually be making *more* power if he did a 3rd gear dyno pull.



As dezz has said, 4th gear is closest to a 1:1 drive ratio so it should be used for dyno pulls for the most accurate figure.





Please f*** off now before you embarass yourself further mate sad.gif Sometimes you just gotta wonder if Darwin's theory really works all that well...
snail
oh crap i just relised u have had this for sale for 4 months now sorry mate having trouble selling it lol. Probley coz when they go for a drive they get confused that it feels slower then 196 lol

oh well as i said before gl with the sale im off
dezzz
QUOTE (snail @ Aug 24 2008, 11:51 PM) *
oh crap i just relised u have had this for sale for 4 months now sorry mate having trouble selling it lol. Probley coz when they go for a drive they get confused that it feels slower then 196 lol

oh well as i said before gl with the sale im off


wise move stopping now smile.gif
snail
i said ill stop so stop keeping it going u d**k
j_dizzie
QUOTE (snail @ Aug 24 2008, 02:31 PM) *
i said ill stop so stop keeping it going u d**k


Damn man. Stop being a phucking tool.

You make Adelaide look bad and giving the whole of SkylinesAUstralia a laugh with your lack of intelligence.

I guess you are living up to your name snail... I guess you really are just slow as a mutherphucking 'snail'
Siddr20
QUOTE (snail @ Aug 24 2008, 11:51 PM) *
oh crap i just relised u have had this for sale for 4 months now sorry mate having trouble selling it lol. Probley coz when they go for a drive they get confused that it feels slower then 196 lol

oh well as i said before gl with the sale im off


Sure i posted that 4 months ago. But at times i took it off the market.

Actually no one has test driven it. Im only now starting to push the sale now, as im wanting to go to europe.
Once again you dont know the correct facts and still state BS. You still lack to see that there are periods that i havnt bumped the for sale for a good month or so. Those are the times i was still thinking about selling the car or not.
The car was NOT on carsales during those periods.
Please keep comments to yourself if you dont know what you are talking about!! thank you.

The car will most likley be sold this weekend smile.gif Got two really interested buyers. So for those who are looking for a skyline, dont miss out.

All the best mate!!
chindodood
QUOTE (snail @ Aug 24 2008, 11:37 PM) *
rbdett stands for R= race B= bread D= double/twin cam E= electronic fuel injection T= turbo and tt stands for twin turbo dude if u didnt know that thats a shame dude looks like u dont know as much as u say

lol

dezz find me more dyno sheets done in 4 gear coz its not the way it should be mate and if u say 3rd gear should make more then 4th thats a lower gear why dont we run it in 2nd or 1st

well i had to dyno 1 of my cars in second as its auto coz it hits speed cut in 3 so just had to do it that way



thats fkn gold!! hahahaha
chindodood
QUOTE (snail @ Aug 24 2008, 08:00 PM) *
dude chill the f###k out . I have not owned a syline before why would i everyone has 1. But i have been in many and seen lots and lots on the dyno so it dont matter lets leave it at that dude just a recap


* UAS Tuned Apexi Power FC
* Adjustable Exhaust Cam Gear
* 3 Inch Turbo Back Exhaust
* Upgrade Trust Corner Mount Cooler
* 13.5 Psi
* Iridium Spark Plugs

that was the 1 that made 206kw with 3.3psi more then urs now so this means he gained a extra 10kw with 3 more psi right ......... urs is running 10psi . but u gained close to 60kw with a extra 3psi with the remap . So this means this should of made 256.2 kw with the extra 3 psi .but it didnt


fuk another gold LOL! man i think u should think before u open ur mouth.. its all shiet comin out of it.. u dont knw wat u on about full stop

QUOTE (snail @ Aug 23 2008, 10:43 PM) *
thanks mad bison i told him but eh


i said it was a nice car sorry bout the boost that was a typo. i have bout 4 mates that have 33s none of em have gone close to that power with them mods

for that to be belivable get a dyno chart with details hell that makes close to as my 2jz on that boost cant be . It even has the stock side mount imagine the heat soak lol



wow even my 4cylinder car make more than ur engine ROFL
mad082
ah, the stupidity is strong in this thread from both sides. firstly, mad bison, flywheel kw is higher than rwkw. not the otherway round like you said in your first post. this is because the flywheel kw is what the engine is putting out. then you have to take into account the loses from driving the gearbox, etc.

the RB in the skyline engine code doesn't stand for race bred. that is what idiots say it means.

200kw from a stock turbo'd and ecu'd rb25 is reasonably common. there are also a lot of people who say it isn't possilbe. most of them are idiots who sit behind a keyboard all day and believe everything they read on a forum. but have a look through here at some dyno results of rb25's http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Rb...yno-t55845.html

the SAFC only tunes the fuel side of the ecu, however because it is bending the AFM signal it does infact have the side effect of increasing the timing.

adjustable cam gears don't have that big of an effect on a mild car. and if done wrong you can lose power instead of gaining it.

dezzz, the rb25 turbo WILL make more power above 12psi. people who say it doesn't are idiots and have generally never tried running their turbo above 12psi.

a remapped ECU is just as good as a PFC. the only difference is that with the PFC you can alter the settings whenever you want.

if you were running a car real lean then driving it on a -10 degree day would actually make it even leaner. cold air is more dense than hot air.

snail, if your mate is running 15psi and only making 200kw, i'd say he has a major problem, and his engine could probably do with a rebuild.

a dyno run in 3rd gear will generally give a similar read out to a run done in 4th. this is all to do with load on the motor which lets the turbo spool up quicker. an practical example of this is that most turbo cars will hit full boost in first gear at a much higher rpm than in higher gears. this is because the engine is spinning up so fast that it doesn't get enough load on it to get the turbo spooling at a lower rpm.

so how about all the keyboard warriors shut up and let siddr20 sell his car.
vietorious
havent logged in here for ages... but I just had to say... HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA LMAO LOL @ snail... idiot.

that is all.
TheyDontWantMusic
QUOTE (mad082 @ Aug 25 2008, 11:29 AM) *
200kw from a stock turbo'd and ecu'd rb25 is reasonably common. there are also a lot of people who say it isn't possilbe. most of them are idiots who sit behind a keyboard all day and believe everything they read on a forum. but have a look through here at some dyno results of rb25's http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Rb...yno-t55845.html


if you actually read through those, you'd see most people are running 12psi to get around 200rwkw, and 10psi, with full exhaust, FMIC, etc nets around 180rwkw.

like I said, the figures simply do not add up...

if a 2JZ running 10psi makes 180rwkw, how does a RB25 running 10psi make 200rwkw?

maybe my maths is a little fuzzy, but it doesn't add up!!!

these results seem rather low, but they're a realistic figure I think:

QUOTE
Management: Power FC
Boost 10psi with GFB atomic boost controller
AFR: 11.8:1
Exhaust: Bellmouth dump, custom mandrel 3" and stainless 3" cat, with 5 Zigen rear muffler (rather large and thus nice and quiet)
Engine: Rebuilt with Venolia Pistons and Chrome Moly rings (that is one is Chrome coated the other compression ring is molydeneum(sp) coated...and for anyone that reads this there is NO SUCH THING AS CHROME MOLY RINGS...
Head: Mild port and polish, reseated valves all standard, standard static compression (8.9:1 on average compared to stock of 9:1)
Malpassi Rising Rate Reg
Walbro Fuel Pump
GFB Stealth Bov
K&N Filter with no heat partition (has been put in since)
Stock Cooler
Stock Turbo
POWER: 159.9rwkw


taken from the thread that you told us to all look at, so I did.
dezzz
QUOTE (mad082 @ Aug 25 2008, 11:29 AM) *
dezzz, the rb25 turbo WILL make more power above 12psi. people who say it doesn't are idiots and have generally never tried running their turbo above 12psi.


Thanks, however I'll stick with my knowledge that stems from actual real world experience on the matter rather than believe something because you say so smile.gif
TheyDontWantMusic
QUOTE (dezzz @ Aug 25 2008, 03:43 PM) *
Thanks, however I'll stick with my knowledge that stems from actual real world experience on the matter rather than believe something because you say so smile.gif


it might make more power above 12psi...

that doesn't mean it will actually survive for very long!

10psi seems to be the realistic 100% safe level for the turbo, 12psi is apparently reasonably safe too, but not 100%
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