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Anyone at all? I mainly need to no what volume enclosure i can't find it on there site etc. 

Is there a reason why you would want to change from Comp VRs? What are you unhappy about with them, if they are in a good box they should make you very happy.

The reason I ask this is because the Clarions aren't much of an upgrade.

Go with between 4-6cu.ft. Depends on what you can fit practically in your car. As far as ports go, well its being discussed in spoonxxx's thread here in the SPL section so have a read of that. Probably 2 x 6" ports flared...for depth its best imo to get access to a termlab meter and start with the longest depth possible and chop it down untill you stop gaining dbs.

What car?

What amp?

Phil

They are in a ported Kicker made enclosure one of the pre loaded boxes. They are powered by a 350w rms (roughly) Pioneer amp.

Was looking to go 2 of thos subs and a Clarion DPX11500 in a Ford EB.

Amp is $400 and each sub is $160 each. I thought that would be the best for that sort of money. 1500w rms Amp and the 2 subs. Unless you guys have a better idea.

Thanks for the measurements. I can fit about 5-5.5 cu.ft.

I reckon you could do a bit better sub wise if you looked on the second hand forums here.

Those amps make OK power, but stick to 2 ohm loading, they don't make much more power at 1 ohm and get a little ragged when pressed hard.

Maybe look at single 15" in a 3.5 cubic foot flat box, with the sub facing the boot lid and the port to the rear of the boot.

Phil

Yeh they put out the same power at 2 as they do 1 but depending on fund i might go another route. Also i listen to alot of metal i heard 15" aren"t good for that sort of music. But i also listen to alot of bass music. Plus 2 12" will fit up near the back seats were i plan to sit them. Can you get a DD sub for around $500 mark? As i could get one 12" DD now then another when i get more funds then the amp.
I just gotta fix my grounding problem first.

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the link above is a link to a persons thread here that is selling a DD9512E for 500 ono or 2x 10 Atomic APSPL's for $450 ono

the Atomics i use to own these two 10's and sold them to him i ran 3000wrms into each sub and they handled every bit of it. they ran off 2 DDZ1's for daily use not a problem they had only had about 15 hours use when i sold them, and i think $450 for them is an awesome price. they are worth 3 times that amount new.


but if your after a DD 12 msg DDPHIL he will be more then happy to help you with a DD 12'' sub that fits your budget.


cheers billy

Ooh that 12 looks good what would it be like compared to the 2 subs i have now? And if it blows say the voice coil is it expensive to fix? Or can it be fixed for that matter? And will it effect the sub having araldite holding the dust cap on? Thanks for the info though

Not really expensive to fix, a recone kit is a touch over $100 then you just need to find someone who can recone subs properly. The benefit of these woofers is that you can fully rebuild them or change parts like voice coils, cones etc. You'll also find good gear holds its value well too.

Does it have Araldite holding the dust cap on? Are you sure it's not black CA glue that all Digital Designs woofers are held together with?

The above link were he is selling it he said arildite or something. And thats pretty good then. I like the look of the carbon dustcap it has a 3d effect at highe excursions. Will this be much louder than my current setup 2-4db? or something around that?

You won't see the full potential of the woofer until you throw some real power into it. If you run the two Clarion monos and box it correctly it will knock your socks off

No it's either Araldite or some kind of clear glue holding the dustcap on. Must have previously come with a paper dustcap and the previous owner put a carbon one on? No problems with it from what i can tell, and still loud as hell.

Ok then whats the difference between these and the current 9512G? Just wondering is all. Ever got a db reading on this baby? 

The 9512g has 80z more magnet, 0.25cuft more box and an extra $1200. 141.3db in the sealed boot of a BMW 318.

Anyone got a 2512a? If so how much power can it handle? More than the 700w rms?

Brad from Cartunez has done a few systems with a pair of 2512s, he's used our M2 (1700W) and M3 (2400W), both worked well.

Phil

That was for daily drivers too we have run heaps more power through them for burps and they love it.

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Ok the first 2 are a quick Google sketchup done to the sizes in the 3rd pic (not exact as sometimes it refused to do exact inches.

On the 3rd one i used the MEA app to calculate the ports etc. Does it look all right? The Sub specs say 2 cu ft3 optimum with the ports displacement already taken out theres like 4.2cuft3 and sub displacement is .1 i just don't no if it is ok to have both subs in one box (not via divider) and for them to share the 2 ports? Any info or help with this part would be great i have gotten this far atleast lol.

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There it is so any idea on if this is right?

Looks OK to me.

Phil

Any reason why you said OK in capitals? Need to improve or?

Umm, that's how you type OK. OK?

Phil

Oh lol i always thought it was just ok lol. Awesome will start building it when i get paid tuesday

OKAAAYY!!

lol....

'OK' to me always meant the it was 'just alright' and not exceptional, whereas 'ok' means its all good

Yeh thats what i was getting at. 

Anyone no of an amp that can handle .5 ohm @ 1500w rms for around $600 because 2x dual 2ohm woofers is 0.5 ohm and the soundstream amp i was looking at the picasso 1500D is 1 ohm stable but i don't want to put a 0.5 ohm load on it if it won't work.

Why not just wire them for 2 ohm, wire each one in series for 4 ohm then wire them together for 2 ohm, as there are lots of amps these days that will comfortably put out 1000-1500wrms @ 2 ohm around the money your looking at, whereas .5 ohm daily stable amps are few and fare between for your budget.

don't confuse OK with so-so, or meh!

lol

looks good.

Ok 2 ohms at 1500wrms then anything that will work for what i need and give them the juice they need. Wish they just wired at 1 ohm lol.

http://www.mobileelectronics.com.au/forums...=540426&hl=

Look there, Eaudio 3000D, will do everything you want, at $600.

Note: still run 2 ohm daily (trust me, it will be enough) then you can run the amp at .5 for burps

I just had a look and the subs are Dual 4 ohm woops. So in the end 1500w rms to them each both when there rated at 750 each wouldn't be a good idea lol. So i guess it's back to the first idea. 1 ohm amp 1500wrms to power 2 SS SPLX 12" subs.

Why is that, it means the amp has to work less to get the same results, Means a happier system. You'll never regret having too much power. Having not enough is another thing.

Yeh but iff im doubling the power to each woofer wont it damage them?

Just be sensible with the volume control and you'll be fine.

Id be happy feeding them 1000w rms but not 1500w rms. Plus by the time i get the money for my current gear they prob will be long gone and knowing my luck that amp having no warrenty would die on me leaving me with no amp or $600. hrmmm.

I happily feed my 400RMS sub with 1000RMS - as Charger said, be sensible - that just means if it's distorting, then turn it down or set the gain lower so it won't distort.

Those eAudios together were feeding a pair of 350RMS subs - 2000RMS from each amp (at 12V), so more than 5x more power than the woofers were rated. Still didn't blow them up, except when I was silly and ignored the distortion.

Oh yeh so turn the gain down and im set?

Read the tutorial on here for setting gains, follow it and with sensible use of the volume, you'll be sweet.

Don't be scared of having lots of power, power is your friend

On the second hand side, don't be too scared there either, sure, there is risk involved, but thats part of the game.

Pick and choose who you buy from and you shouldn't have any issues.

Ok then thanks. I was reading somewere that gains don't turn down the power but my memory isn't good enough to remember the rest lol. So more power is better than under powering sweet.

And i had a look at the proper soundstream site to find out what ohm they actually are to make sure and you can get them in dual 2 ohm or quad 1 ohm. I think dual 2 ohm will be better then i can run it in 2 ohm with 1000wrms to each.

OOoh i been playing with google sketchup and this is what im goin for.





http://home.exetel.com.au/traviscollins/Deamons%20Pics.html





Just click on the 4 Boot install links (my sketch skills are limited but u get the idea)