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wazzab4
I am after a double din headunit with Sat Nav and was thinking of running the P90 processer with Avic HD3.

So can you run the avic hd3 with the P90 processer?

And what do you think of running this combo and has anyone done it?

I only just thought of this tonight and i will ring pioneer tomorrow and see what then say just thought i would put it out there for coment.

Cheers Wazza
Matt VIP
bloody hell wazza.

just what sort of system are you planning installing anyway!?!?!
wazzab4
Something to beat you LOL. so you got any ideas on this matt.
Matt VIP
ummmm.....


all that stuff we talked about last week...to do with sound stage and mounting your midrange as high and as far away as possible...

ahhh..that was all lies unsure.gif

maybe wacko.gif


also, I have NFA if they will work together. just had a look at the unit and it looks pretty SICK!!

that would be a difficult to beat combo...unless I tune it for you..

:evil laugh:
Matt VIP
from the pioneer site:

QUOTE (pioneer)
To experience the full capability of Pioneer’s high-end audio technology, add the sophisticated audio processing of the DEQ-P90 component processor to the exceptional signal quality of your
DEX-P90RS CD tuner.

Digital Signal Processor for exclusive use with DEX-P90RS.
wazzab4
Yea i sore that but it may work i got a P90 comobo at work i take it out of the box tomorrow and have a look.

But on a different angle Alpines hux 701 combo runs rcas or Ai net so this will work on any unit regardless of brand as long as it has RCAs which every unit has some tpe of RCAs.

Maybe run this with a Alpine unit i saw in the new line up coming out soon from Alpine.

http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/products/p...?model=IVA-W505
S3X1T1M3
no you cant... its simply not compatible... avic is a heap of crap anyway... everything about it is slow, the only way id ever have one is if i got it for free... but only so i could sell it and get a p90 combo,
short answer- it wont work, dont waste your time smile.gif
wazzab4
Ok thank you for your input.

Also how long did you have the Avic HD3 in you car for s3x1t1m3.
S3X1T1M3
haven't had one in my car champ... why do you ask?
~thematt~
As mentioned, the Processor WILL NOT work without the headunit too. Sorta like the old F#1 7990.

The P90 is a great unit IF you have the capability to bring out its good qualities, and use the tuning tools well. At that price, its really not worth the money if you dont.

You can, if you wish, run the P90+Processor WITH a DVD unit as Auxillary input for all that extra coin, but a Carputer in the end will be heaps cheaper, heaps more powerful, and heaps better.

I love my P90 btw.... biggrin.gif
wazzab4
Just you say said (avic is a heap of crap anyway... everything about it is slow)

I figured you have had one to come to that conculesion thats all.
How did you get your conculesion?
~thematt~
He works in a shop that installs them all the time....
S3X1T1M3
as above... champ tongue.gif
icacha
QUOTE (~thematt~ @ May 7 2008, 10:43 PM) *
As mentioned, the Processor WILL NOT work without the headunit too. Sorta like the old F#1 7990.


Your wrong there, CDA-7990 will work on its own, PXA-H900 will work with any AiNet head unit.

Its the 2nd gen F#1 that will not work with anything other than its 1 of 2 processors due to the ION Bus system.
~thematt~
Ah! Knew it was one of them....!!
icacha
smile.gif i'll forgive you mate...
s4turn
theres a guy on nzice (nz car audio) selling his p9 combo (headunit + processor) for $1400 nz dollars...
which will prop be about 1300 au dollars

wouldn't be much for shipping I would imagine

Heres the link
<a href="http://forums.nzicemag.co.nz/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17383" target="_blank">http://forums.nzicemag.co.nz/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17383</a>

Not sure if this helps anyone here.. wazza? or do you already have the processor?
Pulse-R
the ODR head unit will work with the P90 processor smile.gif
~thematt~
^^ but what I want to know is, will the P90 headunit work with the ODR processor? The newest one is supposedly (from some trusting sources) the best and most powerful processor ever to be introduced onto the Car Audio market by a long mile, but would be nice if it could tap into my headunit.......
Pulse-R
considering that the ODR uses the P-Bus output (Black) connector, and optic fibre, it should. BUT, only if the firmware in the P90 supports the ODR options.... a bit like the older alpine units have some, but not full, control over the PXA processor.
icacha
I would love one of these but pioneer themselves aren't interested in bringing them in as the top end market isn't there as is use to be, yes people still seem to think it is, but there are only a hand full which would be prepared to spend or have the fund for high end products...
wazzab4
Ok so is there any double din heads with sat nav that i can run 3 way active.
Weather or not i have to get a external processor or not i do not care i just want 3 way active with sat nav
Brand do not realy care at this stage.

I know Pionner, Alpine and Eclipse do not do anything.
But i have been told the Alpine PXA H701 and the RUX C701 can connect via RCAs OR Ai net. does anyone know if this is ture.
If this is ture can i hook it up to say a Eclipse AVN6000 or Pioneer Avic HD3.

Any comments.
Matt VIP
smile.gif

looks like you might be waiting for the Audison BitOne, wazza....

good luck with that laugh.gif
icacha
QUOTE (wazzab4 @ May 9 2008, 09:03 PM) *
If this is ture can i hook it up to say a Eclipse AVN6000 or Pioneer Avic HD3.

Any comments.





Sure, now you just need to find another DIN slot for the C701 smile.gif
xwfalcon
QUOTE (wazzab4 @ May 9 2008, 09:03 PM) *
Ok so is there any double din heads with sat nav that i can run 3 way active.
Weather or not i have to get a external processor or not i do not care i just want 3 way active with sat nav
Brand do not realy care at this stage.

I know Pionner, Alpine and Eclipse do not do anything.
But i have been told the Alpine PXA H701 and the RUX C701 can connect via RCAs OR Ai net. does anyone know if this is ture.
If this is ture can i hook it up to say a Eclipse AVN6000 or Pioneer Avic HD3.

Any comments.


The new alpine iva-502e (not released in oz yet)dosent have navagation built in but you can slot a alpine blackbird personal navagation unit in behind the face of hud and then you have nav .I downloaded manual for iva-502e the other night from alpine usa and it mentions h-700 and h-701 processer and also mentions imprint processer pxa-h100 but dosent mention the new processer they have coming out pxe-h650 .Thats what i was hoping about h701 because i have one and am looking at getting this hud as i will be running 3way +sub active and want hud with optical out .

cheers xwfalcon
wazzab4
The blackbird personal navagation unit is not available in Australia.

Thats what i was going to do.

Yea the Audison bitone looks like the goods for me.
Damon

I know it doesn't have navi built in, but as an SQ biased A/V source no one seems to have noticed Pioneer's AVH-P7950DVD yet. Do some research on its specs and you'll see what I mean. I'm doing an SQ based story on a full system based around this source soon in Hot4s.

Look at its S/N Ratio, channel separation, EQ, TA, crossovers and NINE pre outs. Plus Divx, dual zone, Dolby Digital and Pro Logic II, blah, blah, blah.

With F#1 Status no longer available is there a better specified A/V source on the market? I doubt it.

zion187reigneth
QUOTE (wazzab4 @ May 21 2008, 09:22 PM) *
The blackbird personal navagation unit is not available in Australia.

Thats what i was going to do.

Yea the Audison bitone looks like the goods for me.


Best to seperate the 2, get a 3way hu and seperate GPS .
data_mine
QUOTE (zion187reigneth @ May 25 2008, 08:37 PM) *
Best to seperate the 2, get a 3way hu and seperate GPS .


That's what I told him.

I dunno what sorta limitations the combined HU have, but with the separate systems you can gave music AND nav at the same time.

As for the Pioneer AVH-P7950DVD, I've got the previous model (AVH-P7650DVD) it's a great system, only 6 preouts though but I'm not running active.
icacha
QUOTE (Damon @ May 25 2008, 10:07 AM) *
I know it doesn't have navi built in, but as an SQ biased A/V source no one seems to have noticed Pioneer's AVH-P7950DVD yet. Do some research on its specs and you'll see what I mean. I'm doing an SQ based story on a full system based around this source soon in Hot4s.

Look at its S/N Ratio, channel separation, EQ, TA, crossovers and NINE pre outs. Plus Divx, dual zone, Dolby Digital and Pro Logic II, blah, blah, blah.

With F#1 Status no longer available is there a better specified A/V source on the market? I doubt it.


then you start the car and the specs go flying out the window tongue.gif

welcome to the real world of car audio Damon, specs look good on paper and in a quiet room, not in a car smile.gif
Damon

The 'real world' has proven to me that these measurements have audible benefits in a car, therefore I consider them worthwhile attributes for any potential SQ based source. Road noise or not I can certainly hear the placement benefits offered by a player with higher channel separation. If your ears can't hear it then I guess that will save you plenty of money then won't it?
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