Fudd
May 22 2008, 12:56 PM
anyone know where in Melb i could get a quote on an LPG conversion for a '06 lux? (4.0l petrol)
tis either going to be this or sell the ute and buy a Yaris!
~Spyne~
May 22 2008, 01:59 PM
buy a motorbike, and rig it up for sq comps!!!
~Sparkles~
May 22 2008, 03:24 PM
No one I can really recommend - always had issues with LPG systems in the past with EFI cars - though I havent used any of the newer LPG systems.
Buy a YARIS!
Fudd
May 22 2008, 04:27 PM
might go to the dealership on the weekend and see what i can do for a trade-in on a midget car
fury
May 22 2008, 05:48 PM
You'd fit in a midget car?
~Sparkles~
May 22 2008, 07:50 PM
what about a 2nd hand echo?
Do you have to get a 'yota again?
mac_man_luke
May 22 2008, 07:54 PM
if going LPG get the vapour phase injection system, effectively rules out the reliability problems with a mixer type system and can lead to power gains rather than loss
Fudd
May 23 2008, 08:14 AM
QUOTE (Komodo @ May 22 2008, 07:50 PM)

what about a 2nd hand echo?
Do you have to get a 'yota again?
well i was thinking a secondhand yaris, should almost be a straight swap over haha.
dont have to get a 'yota but would be easier cause the finance is through toyota and the insurance.
~Sparkles~
May 23 2008, 09:36 AM
Don't let the fact that your finance is through toyota affect your buying.
All our cars (up untill dads last Rangie sports which is financed through Land Rover) over the last 10 years have been financed by daimler-chrysler. None of us have ever owned a daimler-chrysler vehicle in that period.
Make sure this one comes with AC
Fudd
May 23 2008, 10:49 AM
haha yeah it will def have AC!
Marc
May 23 2008, 01:09 PM
TULLAMARINE
Unit 12, 85-91 Keilor Park Drive
Phone: 03 9330 2699
Email: tullamarine@lpgas1.com.au
Kris Degenhardt - you might remember, AAPW Soundstream WRX - Now owns an LPGAS1 workshop.
Fudd
May 23 2008, 01:33 PM
ah cool! ill have to check him out.
been thinking of a Pug 206gti... small, fuel efficiant, sporty etc
DB JAY
May 23 2008, 02:03 PM
guy on newlands road in coburg did my lux.
been great and i have never had a problem (touch wood)
but alot of these gas conversion guys are totally flat out at the moment from what i hear
Marc
May 23 2008, 02:08 PM
Whoah ... where did you come from? LOL
I'd trade it fudd, that is of course if you don't need the ute for ute duties?
Fudd
May 23 2008, 02:44 PM
only ute duties i need it for is when the mattress is in the back
Marc
May 23 2008, 03:59 PM
Haha
DB JAY
May 23 2008, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (Marc @ May 23 2008, 04:08 AM)

Whoah ... where did you come from? LOL
here where i have always been!!!!!!!!!!
why do you miss me marc????
mad_bison
May 23 2008, 05:18 PM
QUOTE (mac_man_luke @ May 22 2008, 07:54 PM)

if going LPG get the vapour phase injection system, effectively rules out the reliability problems with a mixer type system and can lead to power gains rather than loss
bugger vapour...liquid sequential injection ftw!
Sierra
May 23 2008, 11:51 PM
QUOTE (Fudd @ May 23 2008, 02:44 PM)

only ute duties i need it for is when the mattress is in the back

eewwww

Go the Pug!
broadz
May 26 2008, 07:48 AM
Click herehow about one of these, best of both worlds and would be better fuel economy then a yaris!
~Sparkles~
May 26 2008, 09:52 AM
LMFAO ^
Fudd
May 27 2008, 07:36 AM
hahaha thats cool!!
going hopefully this weekend to start looking at cars.
was trying to last weekend but seemed to have been moving stuff in the ute all weekend
skitzo
Jun 9 2008, 02:28 PM
i have an older triton ute running on gas at the moment and have had no problems with it at all, the gas has been on for the better part of a year and a half and runs like a dream,
i would suggest against getting the vapour system because i have a couple mates that have all recently gone the vapour system and all the cars run like absolute buckets of puss on gas and there looking at actually taking it off
i have a 120L gas tank and run only on gas, the petrol side of things has been completely taken out and im told its the best way to go, a mixture of fuel and gas is apparently hard to get a car to run well on but if it is on one or the other it can be tuned to run better.... thats what all the mechanics have said that i have talked to anyways
good luck with it
Matt VIP
Jun 12 2008, 12:46 PM
anyone know any good ones in canberra?
sean
Jun 19 2008, 11:50 AM
A freind of mine went to look at YARIS's a couple of weeks ago. Took it for a test drive with the dealer and planted the foot when entering the freeway onramp - it just reved out and went nowhere... The dealer said 'what are you doing? If you want to accellerate you need to put your foot down a lot more gradually'. Suffice to say no sale!
Fudd
Jun 19 2008, 12:23 PM
i have taken a couple for a spin now, dont mind them.
way way less power than my ute

a good 100kw less
blanketman
Jun 19 2008, 04:13 PM
so who reccommends who ??
and why
thinking of strait gas
~Sparkles~
Jun 19 2008, 04:35 PM
DO IT
I'd recommend Mondo motors in Moorabbin. (PM me if you need a number cause its the mechanics not the car yard - though they are the same business)
Not because i have experiance with them doing LPG conversions - but as mechanics they are awesome. Very good customer service etc.
Most of these gas conversion places use kits from only about 3 or 4 suppliers so there really isnt much difference between them other than the installers attention to detail.
blanketman
Jun 19 2008, 04:39 PM
but strait gas
apart from gas research
who can tell me more people
and the car is an Explorer
4.6 v8
~Sparkles~
Jun 19 2008, 04:52 PM
gas research is nothing special since they were bought and moved to QLD (typical QLDers being too lasy to develop the technology further

) basically every one else has caught up or even surpassed gas research. Look into Liquid injection, its definately the best technology (that I know of) out there.
Look into the type of system you want first - then look for suppliers - theres also a good fitter in officer but I believe he is only working on diesel gas fumigation now
blanketman
Jun 19 2008, 09:38 PM
who in officer??
~Sparkles~
Jun 30 2008, 03:27 PM
I wouldnt do your car on LPG
Spoke with a freind and he said the Explorers have a very soft head and the valves gt burned out from the LPG.
He said you will struggle to find any one who will do it and those that will do it obviously have NFI what they are doing
blanketman
Jul 1 2008, 08:41 AM
im looking at Liquid gas injection
just on the horizon atm
i can get the svi for about 4.5k
~Sparkles~
Jul 2 2008, 03:28 PM
4.5k is a lot of fuel...
mad_bison
Jul 2 2008, 04:07 PM
blanketman i have liquid sequential injection on my car.
it's a 91 mazda wagon..so obviously things are a little different...but still tricky to do.
you can get 4cyl vogas lsi kits for about 500quid on ebay. then you need to fit it...
blanketman
Jul 3 2008, 08:57 PM
my car is a little big bigger than a 4 cyl
heheheh
doubly
but that is the set up i want
and $4.5k for an install could be paid back in about 2-3 years
Fudd
Jul 4 2008, 02:05 PM
is that 4.5k after the 2k rebate?
blanketman
Jul 4 2008, 10:48 PM
nah
before rebate
so about 2.5k for my car after rebate
you like saying rebate cause it sounds like master bate
mad_bison
Jul 12 2008, 07:05 PM
well vogas do do 8cyl kits.
slightly more expensive...but still the same principle.
you could run 90% lpg, and 10% petrol, and that would save your soft valve seats.
garethwilliams
Sep 21 2008, 02:28 PM
QUOTE (skitzo @ Jun 9 2008, 02:28 PM)

i have an older triton ute running on gas at the moment and have had no problems with it at all, the gas has been on for the better part of a year and a half and runs like a dream,
i would suggest against getting the vapour system because i have a couple mates that have all recently gone the vapour system and all the cars run like absolute buckets of puss on gas and there looking at actually taking it off
i have a 120L gas tank and run only on gas, the petrol side of things has been completely taken out and im told its the best way to go, a mixture of fuel and gas is apparently hard to get a car to run well on but if it is on one or the other it can be tuned to run better.... thats what all the mechanics have said that i have talked to anyways
good luck with it
I'm an apprentice auto electrician & my boss tells every person who comes in asking which system to go with, to go with the vapour system as the liquid injection system is hopeless. I dont know why, as I dont know much bout gas at all, but yea thats an auto electricians view.
We are always changing fuel pumps on duel fuel cabs, as they dont run the car on fuel enough. The fuel pumps get foulled up with crap if they dont get used for 1hour out of a 12 hour shift.
When you install a vapour system, you loose about 20% of power/responsiveness.
Factory LPG is the way to go. Ford sell a lot of these & they are used by the government, then for cabs. The engine is tuned for gas.
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