it does increase flexability with what matters, there product

THANK YOU thematt !
You pretty well hit the nail on the head, its no so much cleaver marketing as much as cleaver design.
If you included everything in the one product there would be some negative effects because of the circuitry and the cost would be very high too, this way you get their best circuitry and pay only for the options you need / want.

You still however retain the ability to change the unit to any future need or want for a fraction of the cost of a new amp, most VRx modules are under $199 retail, so I don't see them as expensive or un-affordable in the slightest.

And yes the Zapco are an excellent product.

But they are the only ones that make the product. Do you know anyone else that makes ANY sort of add on crossover modules for an amplifier, that doesnt require soldering?

yeah it increases flexability with there product, so you dont buty anything from the opposition, you get it all from them bolt of so to speak

The Audison modules require no soldering.

You're wrong, it simply does not limit you intergrating any other brand in to the system, the only limitation is you must use Audison modules if you want to use them IN the amp, you can still use an external crossover of any brand you dont want to buy the intergrated modules.

I know that. But for any other amplifier, to add active processing modules, requires you to utilize soldering skills and a good understanding of amp design to add them in yourself.

Touchy subject this!

After reading the manual that came with the BLT4 I got from the uk it says the BLT increases the output voltage to 5volts - is that so the amplifier doesn't have to work as hard or am I on the wrong track? The cable has 6 terminals so I'm guessing it is similar to the audison or zapco balanced systems...

Ok ok I think my bitch about audison modules didnt come out as intended.

I understand the Audison VRx's are a very flexible amplifier. My gripe comes from the fact that I bought a VRx1.500 under the impression that I could run it at 1 ohm and I could use balanced line. It wasnt untill reading the manual that I found out that in order to use the balanced line I had to buy the audison BTX-2 line driver and to run stable at 1 ohm I had to buy an optional fan kit.

Now from memory that about $350 worth of modules to buy ON TOP of buying an amplifier with an RRP of $1800 - 1900. and even then I still have to use external crossover processing cause that doesnt include the lowpass module

I do appreciate that the Audison VRx amplifiers are awesome bits of kit but I also appreciate that amplifiers of similar build quality are available which are just as flexible with signal processing that can be bypassed and which dont require an add on fan module to remain stable for similar or less money that the basic unit.

To me if I could buy the bare bones amplifier and add the modules required for $1500 (+/-$100) then the Audisons would become a far more attractive amplifier.

My saying the audisons arent flexible comes from the fact that to be as flexible as possible it requires additional money to be spent and things like the fan module and BTX-2 module limit choise if one wanted to look to other options to achive the same result.
I realise not many people really care about balanced input and I understand this not being included - but as far as i am concerned an amplifier which requires a fan to run stable at advertised loads should include this fan and not sell it as an option.

Any way thats my rant and this is off topic from what this treads discussion is which is balanced line inputs and their pros and cons

What you seem to not understand is the price you paid IS THE BARE BONES PRICE.
What I hear you saying is that they are too expensive for YOUR pocket.

To build an amplifier of that quality in Italy costs X dollars, which means it costs the distributor Y dollars and you the consumer Z dollars - quite simply that is the way it happens.

If you want something built in China, Taiwan, Korea etc you could have a cheaper product, but not an Italian built amplifier.

We offer Hertz amplifiers which are designed in Italy and built in China and cost less for the features / performance.

Ferrari are more expensive than most other similar performance European cars and come with less gadgets / features but people still buy Ferrari because it is Ferrari ! Most who buy Audison in the upper levels buy them quite simply because they are Audison, a QUALITY Italian built amplifier, to them price is secondary to performance and the prestige of owning an Audison.

Phil did you read what I typed. I said that I UNDERSTAND that I purchased the BARE BONES amplifier.

I wouldnt say the Audisons are too expencive for my pockets - just, in my opinion, not valuable enough for my money.
They're big pockets and the Audisons come no way near filling them.

By the way Phil I dont like Ferraris much either. For my money I'll stick with a Morgan Aero 8.

the morgan is porn

and thank f*** for Zed amps.

On that note, I ordered my Symbilink (balanced) Cables from an International Zapco Distributor yesterday Looking forward to running balanced line in my new system

Please let me know how you manage to get your amps to accept balanced input.

I am running Zapco Reference Series amps, they have a balanced line input on both of them that are designed especially to run Zapco's Symbilink system


Hell, my monoblock doesn't even have an input for RCA's only balanced

damn this convo is still alive??

ffs if you can get these ppl to turn down their 6*9s and back off on their bandpass sub box, then maybe they will take a breathe long enough to be told they are holding on to stuff the rest of the world has already forgotten....8 track...tapes...etc...why ???

balanced just isnt needed...you can argue for 6 years and you'd still be talkin crap. You got noise today you neeed to get a decent install period. learn your craft and forgetr bld's..NO ONE needs them ever. move on

or after you fit them tell me how good you 6th order BP sounds lol
you guys
Cyberpunky

come on guys

its not a must have but when implimented correctly this will allow for the best possible s/n ratio of any analogue data transfer.

Punky there is still a place for them, its just not as broad an application as before.

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