lukeyo
Jun 14 2008, 10:20 PM
I usually use thin mdf to seal the service holes in doors before using dynamat but someone gave me some 1.2 mm thick aluminium sheets.
Would these sound tinny if I rivet them over the holes and cover them with dynamat?
shiny_car
Jun 14 2008, 11:31 PM
will be fine. rap it with your knuckles, and i doubt it will be tinny. and once you add the dynamat overtop, it'll be 'dead'!
mad89
Jun 15 2008, 12:11 AM
As mentioned, as long as you Dynamat them aswell, they should be sweet. Might be a good idea to seal up around them aswell with some Sikaflex, or similar.
KGB
Jun 15 2008, 05:18 PM
Be careful they don't corrode to pieces. If my chemistry recollections are correct, when the two metals are in contact the aluminium will act as a sacrificial anode and corrode (more quickly than normal) in preference to the steel rusting.
Having said that though, the aluminium oxide (corrosion) layer on the aluminium is pretty impervious to air which is why aluminium doesn't "rust" away like steel, so I could be completely wrong.
lukeyo
Jun 15 2008, 11:47 PM
Ok, I'll give it a go.
Thanks guys.
WIGARUS
Jun 18 2008, 12:02 PM
I don't think you have to worry about aluminium acting like a sacrificial anode... they make boats out of ali... if your worried about it, screw some lead sinkers to the ali
bob
Jun 18 2008, 08:49 PM
Just put a layer of tape over the service hole before putting the aluminium in place if you are worried.
lukeyo
Jun 22 2008, 03:07 PM
I've finished my door pods so now I can get back to this.
Click to view attachmentThere are many aspects to using aluminium that are superior to mdf.
It's easy to cut with a sharp pair of snips.
Click to view attachmentIt folds and bends easily to follow contours.
Click to view attachmentIt doesn't seem tinnier than the inner skin was originally but thank god for dynamat.
It won't be affected by moisture.
The dynamat should stick to it better.
KGB
Jun 22 2008, 06:56 PM
Looks good.
QUOTE (WIGARUS @ Jun 18 2008, 12:02 PM)

I don't think you have to worry about aluminium acting like a sacrificial anode... they make boats out of ali... if your worried about it, screw some lead sinkers to the ali

With Zinc sacrificial anodes.... Aluminium boats aren't usually rivetted to big sheets of steel either

Once the door is all sealed up I'm sure it will be fine.
lukeyo
Jun 23 2008, 10:40 PM
The steel is painted so it won't rust or react with the aluminium
The only place I'd expect to see any corrosion at all would be where the hole for the aluminium rivets are drilled in the steel but I doubt it will ever be an issue.
Did the driver's door in dynamat extreme and it sounds pretty dead.
It closes with a solid thud and that quality alone makes it worth the cost
Damo95
Jun 24 2008, 07:54 AM
did you run a bead of silicone or something around the edge of the aluminium sheet before you rivetted it down?
that would help the "contact" and sealant, yes?
shiny_car
Jun 24 2008, 11:27 AM
QUOTE (lukeyo @ Jun 23 2008, 10:40 PM)

Did the driver's door in dynamat extreme and it sounds pretty dead.
It closes with a solid thud and that quality alone makes it worth the cost
that's an awesome job with the aluminium! well done.
WIGARUS
Jun 24 2008, 11:55 AM
nice mate

like a bought one
lukeyo
Jun 24 2008, 09:19 PM
The dynamat came with card wrapped between the sheets so I used it as a template.
Click to view attachmentIt's awkward threading the dynamat between the wires and lock rods but not as hard as finding all the little holes for clips and screws.
It's lucky I took a pic of the stripped down door before I started.
Next time I'm going to draw a diagram with x, y measurements from fixed points to use in conjunction with the pics.
Click to view attachmentI cut a gasket from closed cell foam to seal behid the pod/baffle.
It doubles as a rain shield.
Click to view attachmentThe speaker basket pushes the foam up over the top.
Damo95
Jun 25 2008, 01:46 PM
That looks good man... well done...
KGB
Jun 25 2008, 05:24 PM
Looks pro, well done. Gotta love that deep thud.
keepitreal07
Jun 29 2008, 08:28 PM
how thick is they ally an how hard was it to bend
DD Phil
Jun 30 2008, 10:19 AM
QUOTE (keepitreal07 @ Jun 29 2008, 08:28 PM)

how thick is they ally an how hard was it to bend
QUOTE (lukeyo @ Jun 14 2008, 10:20 PM)

1.2 mm
An easy way to bend sheet metal is to cut a slot in a piece of wood, slip the metal through, then use another block off wood to fold the material.
Phil
jukebox
Jul 10 2008, 01:57 PM
there is definately a lot to be said for diy, especially when you do it like this..
just imagine what a shop would have charged to do this, and the result would not have been perfect in every way...
even the template from card board says alot about the way you do things mate, the best you can obviously.....if this is your door work and it dont get seen, i can imagine your install thats on show.....good work... this is how im doing my next door deadening for sure..
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